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By:
Reynard
When: 18 Feb 19 18:38
Ah , yes , but I didn't specify 'HIS' colour nor , indeed , if 'He' was gay . so I've avoided offending the two most easily offended groups known to humankind (see what I did there) Wink
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 18 Feb 19 18:43
When I had a God he was a blond haired blue eyed Jew.
By:
impossible123
When: 18 Feb 19 18:44
The incursion by Mr Blair into Iraq was self-serving, and at the behest of Mr Bush - Mr Blair was his puppy; Mr Blair ought to have been censured, and taken off the political arena of the world let alone benefiting £millions from speeches to well-heeled companies willing to listen to his claptrap.

I think denying him a knighthood is insufficient punishment given the miseries and hardships he caused the Iraqi people and their neighbours.
By:
saddo
When: 18 Feb 19 18:46
He still thinks he's relevant, hilarious   Laugh
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 18 Feb 19 18:47
Denying him an effing Knighthood!

He is complicit in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people!

He put a target on our backs!
By:
Capt__F
When: 18 Feb 19 18:59
DING
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 18 Feb 19 22:03
The only young Girls our Friends are interested in ,In the UK, would not be of the Faith .
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 18 Feb 19 22:25
We do what Trump has told us to do, no more no less

All members of ISIS must be punished

Once she has served her punishment she will be allowed to stay here
By:
boxingthefox
When: 19 Feb 19 01:08
Now on the right thread, sorry guys.

Lets try and put this in betting 'parlance'. " I was a young gambler, I thought I knew more than all you 'old losers' well my dad told me so!. then this 'New System' came along, and I thought fck you losers, I'm on a winning steak if I join up.

So I joined, what could go wrong? the You tube clips offered paradise for participants, what could go wrong?.

Anyway to cut a long story short, my perverted view of the faith proved to be a bit too barbaric for normal people, so they bombed the carp out of us. So I thought, fck this, I don't give a sh*t about severed heads, I just want an easy life in the country I left and profess to hate, so I will  prey on their weaknesses again, because the are fckin idiots bent on their own destruction, cue the BBC, Sad
By:
boxingthefox
When: 19 Feb 19 01:10
Hey the Bairn, cheers.Wink
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 19 Feb 19 01:11
Very poor value bet. A lot of them seemed to think they'd be granted a KFC franchise. That was never going to happen.
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 19 Feb 19 01:11
Some even thought that Nando would open a branch.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 19 Feb 19 01:12
Easily lead. Plain
By:
The Knight
When: 19 Feb 19 10:02
No Reynard, by us I don't mean British youth (although she is British by law). I mean her selfish and spoiled attitude seems rather representative of today's Western younger generation. A younger generation who seem to think they are entitled to do whatever they like.


Of course, thank god that the vast majority of the younger generations are not so extreme in their views as this little b*tch.


But she was brought up here and in a society where the young think they 'entitled'. Entitled to do as they like, when they like, regardless of consequence to others. I see it every day where young people try hard to come over as 'caring and concerned' but the instance they are even the slight bit put out by the needs of others they scream blue murder.

The look of arrogance and entielemnt on this girl's face is so obvious.

If she is allowed back, we might as well turn the lights off and leave the UK.

Mind you, in this case perhaps the media could have just ignored her and that, I suspect, would have really frustrated her. Can't trust the media to do the right thing today, though.
By:
saddo
When: 19 Feb 19 10:18
It sounds like she was brought up by an Islamic nutter, how does that make her  typical  of 'western youth'? It's not the norm yet, though it will be.
By:
Reynard
When: 19 Feb 19 11:23
I read The Knights post and had a response all worked out in my head ................ then I read saddo's reply , which was a far more concise version of mine , so didn't bother .
Just to add that I imagine she was closeted away and brought up on a diet of scripture , only associating with those harbouring similar perverted views . And so it has continued for 19 years . She will never change because her extremist views are so deeply ingrained .
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 19 Feb 19 12:22
He has promised to bring up her son to see ISIS as evil...

But as his own views may have driven his own daughter to ISIS...who knows?

The proper way to bring up children is to let them make their own choices of course

I stand by my previous posts
By:
Reynard
When: 19 Feb 19 12:30
The proper way to bring up children is to let them make their own choices of course

How can they be expected to make their own choices ? Choices are decisions made based on evidence and the only evidence they have is taken from a book written 1400 years ago . How is that relevant to making choices in today's world ?
Crazy
By:
Reynard
When: 19 Feb 19 12:33
They have no choice . Should they choose a different path ie. leave Islam , they are punishable by death according to scripture . Kinda makes it difficult to make a choice .
By:
alun2005
When: 19 Feb 19 12:58
Yet you can be a drug dealer or rapist and you are accepted, as long as you remain in the cult.

Unrepentant/Convicted Terrorists also accepted.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 19 Feb 19 13:46
I take your point

But civil law in this country, does allow children to make a choice...

With children it is difficult to ensure this always takes place

particularly within Islam


The alternative is to ban Islam, but since we have already let so many in that would be difficult

We are forced to monitor them as best we can
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 19 Feb 19 13:52
Most intelligent Islamic Parents

encourage their children to get into medicine, law, anything that pays well

When it comes to making money...they are not daft

just my own opinion
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 19 Feb 19 13:56
The reason Islamic people came here in first place was to MAKE MONEY

In return they need to stay away from all this FUNDAMENTALIST stuff


The more moderate the better, be a heathen if the fancy takes you(as long as it is within the law)
By:
happysandwich
When: 19 Feb 19 14:38
"The lawyer Tasnime Akunjee representing the family of British jihadi bride Shamima Begum has compared her to a traumatised First World War soldier."

That sentence alone is enough to give anyone reading it shellshock

She should have her head shaved, paraded through the streets and spat on like the French women who fraternized and gave sexual comfort to the Germans during WW11.
By:
impossible123
When: 19 Feb 19 15:45
I've many friends who are Muslims but from different ethnic backgrounds eg India, Pakistan, Turkey, Kurdistan, Iraq, Sri Lanka, etc - they are all very family oriented, and education for their offspring is key. To them it's the passport to a better life, wealth (denotes power) and respect. However, of these ethnic groups the most pushy and difficult to deal with is the Pakistanis; very few of them respect professions lesser than a doctor, dentist, architect and lawyer - only professional white-collar; anything else they'd turn their noses-up on them or respected by them; also the most pushy, racist and ignorant. The Pakistanis do not like the Indians for (obvious) historical reasons, and vice versa.

Also, these two ethnic groups are most unlikely to integrate for fear of infringing their perceived (blood) superiority; maximise and display their wealth and possessions in public (public respect is extremely important) to the exclusion of others to feed their insecurity eg living in enclaves/clusters, and humiliate others; politically in control ie politics is extreme power - the main reason for their being kicked-out of host countries repeatedly eg kenya, Uganda, etc, in the past - they dislike sharing wealth or power with any other group even the locals.

The Turkish, Kurdish, Iraqi and Sri Lankan are generally very nice people. I find them extremely friendly, hospitable and loyal - they treat me as a member of their family. As a matter of fact much I shall be attending a Turkish wedding next wednesday, and sitting with the family at the same table in the banquet on friday evening. They also understand they are in their host country even those born here; they are respectful of the host's custom, tradition and way of life. And pretty often I'd met up at their parents' homes for a bite-to-eat or eat-out. But they and I have never done/replicated this with either the Pakistanis or Indians - these two ethnic groups do not tend to want to socialise with other ethnic groups, this is true, sad to say.
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 19 Feb 19 15:46
She was giving sexual comfort to the Jihadi fighter - also functioned as a breeder.

And, judging from the video, was also able to take the top off a bottle.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 19 Feb 19 16:45
you have made some pretty broad and sweeping statements there impossible. Peoples from the Indian Sub Continent imho are generally regarded as the most hospitable in the World and the poorer they are the more generous they appear to be to me at least.

I would concur Pakistani's tend to be more insular, do not generally put a value on education and I would say treat their women particularly poorly.

This girl did not have much of a future and no wonder she wanted to escape what her parents had in store for her.

I am coming to the conclusion that she is still in some sort of shock. I have difficulty believing she was an A grade student. Her conversations were so stilted and ill thought out. She has no thoughts of remorse and seemed to ask for forgiveness as an afterthought and I am not sure what she is seeking forgiveness for.

I am further drawing to a conclusion that it will not be safe for her to return to the UK and she needs to be interviewed by the security forces for any important information on people and location she can provide particularly how she radicalised herself.

I can understand peoples anger towards her. I have not come across one person who is in the least bit sympathetic to her plight.
By:
Injera
When: 19 Feb 19 16:55
Her lawyer is a character who's hard to trust also..

Tasnime Akunjee - the lawyer had previously stated that Muslims should not co-operate with the Government's Prevent counter-terror strategy, which he claimed was “straightforward, paid-for spying on the community”.

Mr Akunjee has previously held links to human rights group CAGE - once branded 'terror apologists' by then London Mayor Boris Johnson.

Writing on their website in 2015, he accused UK security services of 'creating' Lee Rigby killer Michael Adebolajo by 'making his life so difficult'.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8461180/who-shamima-begum-lawyer-tasnime-akunjee-isis-bride/
By:
Reynard
When: 19 Feb 19 16:57
Whisperingdeath • February 19, 2019 4:45 PM GMT
I have not come across one person who is in the least bit sympathetic to her plight.

From that I assume you haven't visited the East London mosque in the last week or so Scared
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 19 Feb 19 17:13
Ashley I have!

Barking, what a sheite hole. Drug Dealers and loons abound. It is worse than where I live. Still found no sympathy for her!

So tell me what happened in the East London Mosque?
By:
posy
When: 19 Feb 19 18:34
We should follow France's example and ban the bin bag.Might encourage the religous nutters to emigrate if their daughters are prohibited from wearing such attire.
By:
pa lapsy
When: 19 Feb 19 18:39
Stripped of her citizenship,well done the UK.
By:
Emitdeb
When: 19 Feb 19 18:39
Happy
By:
saddo
When: 19 Feb 19 18:57
Game on, get rid of the parents back to Germany now.
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 19 Feb 19 19:07
Cool
By:
badjoe
When: 19 Feb 19 19:09
I feel a wee smidgen of pride in the UK for this, been a long time since I've felt that. Sends out a good message.
By:
geoff m
When: 19 Feb 19 19:10
a pleasing result.
By:
impossible123
When: 19 Feb 19 19:13
"People from the Indian Sub Continent imho are generally regarded as the most hospitable in the World and the poorer they are the more generous they appear to be to me at least".

I concur fully with your above statement about the hospitality, kindness and generosity of the Indians in the Indian Sub Continent.

However, those here tend to behave very differently to their fellow country people in India. I do not know precisely why that is so maybe, I think, it could be due to jealousy and/or greed. For instance, if they believe/feel/see that you have more of something than them eg money, material possessions, etc, they would want the same (and more) even yours (if possible), and at your expense (if necessary); they would expect you to facilitate them, but they would not or be reluctant to facilitate you in return. For instance at work, they would accuse you of wanting/taking their job if they facilitate you if you are a new member of staff.

I've friends from several ethnic groups of different faiths, but none as far as I can recall/remember, are chummy with Pakistanis and/or Indians in this country. It's ironic, but it's true, sadly.
By:
Hank Hill
When: 19 Feb 19 19:18
Is it true about her losing citizenship? can't find anything on it.
By:
impossible123
When: 19 Feb 19 19:19
She's indeed been stripped off her British citizenship - a very bold move by the government of the day; not totally unexpected but a definitive statement to those with the same ideology and intentions.
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