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you should read my 'cunning plan' topic, UR. Most things are on there
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rather ironic if camerons responsible for the reincarnation of ukip ,rather than its demise
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new 3rd party must happen; when the riots have stopped that is
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We can retreat to the Alpine Redoubt in shropshire/worcestershire.
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Porcupine, I wouldn't have sought the impossible (i.e. consensus). To use the old mantra - Leave means Leave. You can't reach consensus with people who want to stay in the Customs Union, Single Market etc.
Had the Referendum been won by Remain, as widely and condescendingly anticipated, I genuinely believe there would have been no bad faith from the Leaver Losers and the country would have settled down (relatively speaking) once again instead of the major division we have today. Maybe I'm a daft idealist, but I am convinced that the UK would make an excellent job of being out of the EU and do not accept the doom and gloom that Remainers love to bathe in. You and I have a completely different mindset - we will never agree or reach consensus. |
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nothing wrong with that. I have a good friend who supports Labour & drives me nuts with his thoughts. People think we are brothers when out & about but have no idea how vehemently we argue about politics ``
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You can buy from almost anywhere and you can sell almost anywhere. I know.
I am glad to have been of help to you all. |
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her friends , colleagues say mrs may is a career public servant who,s only goal in life is to serve,she hides it well because that look of absolute disdain head tilted to one side when a journo is doing his job asking awkward questions ,tells a different story,
I wouldn't mind but he,s spent years proving she,s absolutely hopeless as a minister and now pm |
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like this?
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or this?
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nah the 1st one, the DO YOU NO WHO I AM LOOK,
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a frightening sight is it not
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Wtf is it with those mad huge beads she's always wearing round her neck / wrist?
Some kind of symbolism? |
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our lass always say they must be heavy.not heavy enough I reply,
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probably to remind any pup who disagrees with her, where their pudenda will end up
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by the way; she's on her feet at 7pm in the commons. I bet you all can't wait
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Just Googled pudenda. Wtf?
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She's on right now ...
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yes but her main meeting is with her own MPs at 7pm
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One of the things remain voters go on about is the uncertainty of being outside the EU.
What do the young unemployed of Greece, Spain, Portugal and possibly other EU countries think of the certainty of staying in? What do those still in Poland and the Baltic states think of their dwindling populations? What do the Germans think of mass immigration? Hungary is a powder keg. France is a throwback to riots in the 60’s. The EU is like the emperor with no clothes. |
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good post racing cert
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either I,m getting confused, or treasons losing the plot,she,s spent all weekend and all today saying no Brexit is deffo on the table, but when asked by kate hoey if we,re deffo leaving eu in march she said yes
, com,surely one rules out the other, .com |
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Maybe East Germany should split off again and join the Visegrad group, and we can join them? :)
I'd be up for that. |
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Have been asking that a lot myself RC what will staying in look
like in two three years time because what we see does not look good plus of course if we stay in Blair a shoo-in for next President |
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souldnt be surprised but one lady labour mp cant count,may wil lose by between 100 and 200 votes but she,s put off having her baby and getting her husband to push her into the commons to vote, anything to get attention I suppose, wonder if she,ll carrying a look at me banner
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remember those unemployment figures amongst the youth of southern countries would be a lot more if the youngsters hadn't escaped to the uk germany france etc where they ARE in employment
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Yep just on the station im at work a Portugese,French African,Greek,brother and sister
Romainian(relief staff) 6 English and a northener. |
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my problem with just about everything is how the tv presents it all as given - rarely with any critique - the journos don't invstigate much these days - just report what the editors put in front of them
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May has admitted that the deal is a "compromise" so why aren't journos asking this pretty simple question tonight; "Why are we having to compromise when it is the UK who decided to leave?" Pretty simple& - pretty basic
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Of course we have to compromise if we want a deal, a deal is a two way agreement.
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We should leave on WTO rules and then negotiate a deal.
We have nothing upon which to compromise otherwise, as we have in effect already played our aces to beat the two of diamonds and the two of clubs. |
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ffs we cant negotiate a deal now or in the future because the tories don't no what deal they want ,depending on who or who isn't PM, that's why the future agreement is so vague and can mean anything to anyone, its why labour are wary incase they are handing over a blank cheque to boris Johnson for example
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goves already said he wants to get the deal over the line then its game on anything and everything goes
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Goves can want all he likes but if 420+ are saying no then there's sod that little weasel can do
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you do not compromise over a deal if you originally hold the upper hand in negotiations. You dictate the deal! Now who has been doing the dictating in this 'deal' & who has been doing the compromising? You can make a deal between two countries were both leave the table happy; that's a compromise
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the best deal will will ever had exits, peace in our time. you have all sh1t yourselves but will claim it was worth it.
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'6 years of almost certain uncertainty" this is the level of debate we have got to. just gibberish. who is that guy?
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May sees the 'deal' as a "compromise" because she couldn't get (apparently) what she wanted from the EU. "It's the best deal" is all she ever says & is still to this very night saying. What she should be saying, but obviously won't, is that "It's the best deal that i can get" Subtle; but massive difference. That is why you have the issues we do now; plenty upon plenty of people know that her deal is crap to what could have been attained. She is worthless & gets sympathy & a free ride for being worthless. Welcome to the UK!
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