It's a no Brexit before a no deal - 36 hours & counting

60% of electorate didnt want a tory government

what part of democracy dont tories understand ....

the "reassuring"  letter has arrived from Juncker? & is full of nothing. The letter has arrived from May; & is full of nothing!

the PM says to get labour on side she will not only agree to keep work place ,regulations we cureently have but go further than the EU ON THEM,that in tory ,business eyes means more red tape so why doesn't someone ask her that been the case how does she think we will  win make trade deals around the world, thought that was the whole point of leaving, get rid of eu regs to make it easier for countries to trade with us Singapore on the thames as boris and co would see it

your points, moisok are well noted & would fall on deaf ears all over Whitehall

she also says the letter has "legal force" What the heck is legal force? If she thinks that's enough to turn her vote around then the padded cell definitely await

Is that link to a real letter or a comedy thing?

Junker did not even bother to sign it properly. He just wrote a cross to make his name. Or maybe he cannot read and write?

since most of us were born we have had relative peace and prosperity within the EU.
you've lost your minds if you think things will get better.

to Arleystaion - obviously

To be fair arley, I reckon it could have been possible. She's tried to do the complete opposite though. Roughly half the country was happy to stay in and their wishes were continually ignored and instead she's herself drew the red lines which have so hamstrung her ability to negotiate.

This has essentially been the latest in the series of hopeless Tory mismanagements. But still the idea that a vote for Labour is a vote for chaos gains traction with quite a lot of people. Staggering really.



What this needed from the get go was an aim at consensus. At getting something that the whole country could accept. Maybe it needed cross-party co-operation, maybe it needed further referenda stipulating their preferences on the path to go down, it certainly needed more time to decide on our chosen path before. She rushed into it, the party have lied throughout, have been under-prepared and have tried to circumvent Parliament. Now they've run out of time and they're up sh!t creek.


But still, they know there's still plenty of muppets who'll fall for the "but Labour will be worse" line.

of course the EU don't want us the leave. the clue is in them saying they don't want us to leave.
i do kind of agree that if we had stuck to it being about trade and common defence it would all be fine.
the free movement of people was ok until new countries joined who were in a very different situation.
having said that we have many Polish & a few Romanian families living in the neighbourhood & with
kids at my kids school and they are all working and decent people.
attack the policy but don't demonise the individuals., that just aint fair.

make that 10

Hornet - silly question - WHERE ARE MY POINTS ??  Has May's axemen been chopping away at the forum?? 

Arley  I will be up in april  - a few at the  old castle, a couple at the station too  yum yum

they never expected the vote - hence they never have prepared anything other than to stay - now they are trying to convince us that to stay would be best - which is amazing after how we have been treated -

I don't think the EU system has any idea where we are coming from.  To the Eu commission, the whole thing is sacrilege - they just don't see why someone would want to leave.  Or maybe they know but would not admit it.  Just like hitler would never understand that a lot of people didn't like his ideas either.

Ha  but they don't know our secret arley   do they

THE RIVER!!!!   There are lots of rubber boats turning up down sarf.   A couple of them loaded up with supplies and straight up the river - no problem.  Can get up to arley easily ho ho

HORNET   - what post was it  coz it ain't on here - have I been eradicated - exterminated even!!??

THE RIVER!!!!   There are lots of rubber boats turning up down sarf.   A couple of them loaded up with supplies and straight up the river - no problem.  Can get up to arley easily ho ho


Sadly no - the Government will have agreed to a hard border between Gloucestershire and Worcestershire so nothing will get up river beyond Tewkesbury. Batten down the hatches, old chap!

you said you took my points et   - in your post of 1203  said etc  -    but there was no post of mine before  that I can see - or was it another forum??

ufcdan may have the answer - he has had a watery existence, like wot I have had, but he went under it, so we could hatch a plan

the bath tub out of Dad's Army for instance!!!

Sorry, Porcupine - there was no chance of consensus on such a divided issue when the Remainers were such bad losers. The wishes of those that lost the binary Referendum had to be ignored if Leave was to be enacted. There has never been any chance of cross-party co-operation because party has been more important to politicians than nation.


arley - how do you propose to gain consensus if your opinion of Remainers is that they are "bad losers"? That's the exact attitude that's gotten us into this mess. You can't just completely ignore half the country. It's just plain daft. All you're going to do is split it even wider apart so that every fault is jumped on as an example of why Brexit is bad. If you hope that simply ignoring half the country they will give up and support you then you're dafter than David Davis. It's just been terrible decision after terrible decision till we've reached the point, after two years of negotiating and refining, that no-one likes the best deal she came up with.

That's really quite an achievement. If this was sport, the tories would be forced to sit out the next election and start again with the local ones or something.

of course the EU don't want us the leave. the clue is in them saying they don't want us to leave.

yes of course northanlite

I feel I needed to say it, to ensure everybody on here understand that...
which of course everyone does, oh well