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No security at this synagogue according to reports. Not sure how many do.
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Sounds quite bad large jewish neighbourhood
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Does not Sound good at all |
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4 dead maybe rising to 8
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Totally sick
I believe Pennsylvania has the death penalty - not going to bring back the innocent victims though. |
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Media unsurprisingly turning this into a "Trump is a dick" angle..
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did he sanction it then?
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Apparently he's not anti gun enough, which is fair as obviously these things never happpened when Obama and Clinton were in office..
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There will never be gun control in America no matter who is President.
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Sadly probably true
![]() Genie is so far out of the bottle, if they crack down it'll be the usual case where bad guys have access and good guys get caught. |
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11 dead :( What a sad world :(
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BBC news seemed to be trying to link it to an atmosphere created by Trump. Disgusting BBC but it's what we expect.
I'm beginning to consider if the risk of court is worth it to stop paying these biased &&&&ers for their propaganda. Apparently the guy who did it hates Trump??! |
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Any Mention of Scientists ,Engineers or Young footballer Types ?
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Pratically immune to these shootings stories they happen so often over there, even the Las Vegas one I just thought, doesn't surprise me it's America. And I think so many over there think the same, it's normalised.
Amazing they can't sort out this never ending problem but they try to run other countries, but then the NRA are the real Kingmakers. |
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Casemoney and Just Checking. The following is taken from the BBC News just now. Hope this is helpful
What do we know about the gunman? US media said he had shouted "All Jews must die" as he carried out the attack. Social media posts by someone with the name Robert Bowers were also reported to be full of anti-Semitic comments. Image of Suspected attacker Robert Bowers Pittsburgh FBI's special agent in charge of the investigation, Bob Jones, told a press conference that he did not know if Mr Bowers was known to authorities prior to events on Saturday. He said that any motive remains unknown but that authorities believe he was acting alone. Mr Jones added that the investigation was "in the early stages". "We will look at every aspect of the suspect's life," he said. Mr Bowers is receiving treatment for what has been described as multiple gunshot wounds. What has been President Trump's reaction? He called the shooting a "terrible, terrible thing". "To see this happen again and again, for so many years, it's just a shame," he told reporters on Saturday. He described the gunman as a "maniac" and suggested the US should "stiffen up our laws of the death penalty". "These people should pay the ultimate price. This has to stop," he said. Mr Trump added that the incident had "little to do" with US gun laws. "If they had protection inside, maybe it could have been a different situation," he said. The president later appeared at the Future Farmers of America Convention in Indianapolis, saying: "There must be no tolerance for anti-Semitism. It must be condemned and confronted everywhere and anywhere it appears. Speaking to reporters after the event, Mr Trump said the attacker was not one of his supporters, describing him as "sick". |
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What is your point Blackbarn? This is second time in a week I've had the BBC show it's usual bias on the TV then someone posts something unrelated from their website. You do realise like say 10,000 people will read the website and 10 million will watch the crap they dish out on the main news of the day?
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The BBC (this is their latest narrative btw) put right smack in the bulletin on this that the US is now swathed in political violence (that they attribute to trump) and linked it to this.
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Just Checking - I was merely posting what the BBC was posting (in its latest post) on its website about this incident. I did not see tonight's news.
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Fair enough :)
I actually think the BBC are deliberately far more prone to bias on the TV for two reasons- * You have to be a geek to record it and then throw the bias at them * You can't copy/paste spoken word to show what they just did. Re the earlier week one it was to do with Dyson openin a car plant in Singapore. The BBC w*nker on the 1pm news somehow turned this (despite the fact it was nothing to do with Brexit) to a "Brexit is sh1t" narrative. |
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No bother JC...
I have no wish to get into a debate with you on this subject, other than to say that if you think that the BBC has a different editorial policy for TV News vs Web News, you are either wrong, or are attributing far more sophistication to their editorial bias than is actually the case, or you are just plain wrong. Night night. |
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"you think that the BBC has a different editorial policy for TV News vs Web News, you are either wrong, or are attributing far more sophistication to their editorial bias than is actually the case, or you are just plain wrong."
So despite the evidence dished out every day, the fact that TV and web journalists are different people, that they obviously know full well how they will be observed, I'm wrong because you don't like it. Well done... |
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Honestly where do these people come from. It's like you go to "Tyre Change Ltd" and they tell you it's £1000.00 per wheel, and you're an ****, but that's OK because .... their online apologist departmnet found a press release from 2016 saying they were good people.
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A Looney Luvvie ?
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When you have journalists and politicians and other types on the BBC discussing a subject or news item then that is obviously a different thing from what it releases on its website in a few paragraphs
Blackburn isn’t making much sense |
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Well he’s talking tripe actually
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Exactly LFC.
You must compare like with like. |
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11 dead and counting
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Funny how despite their hate the bbc, lfc1971 and Just Checking spend hours watching it, to note down its deficiencies in their eyes.
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Funny how a broadcaster supposedly bound by law to be impartial, isn't remotely impartial and laughs at the idea, and we are forced to pay for it or go to prison. How amusing this is.
I'm sure Guardian readers would love it if they had to pay 150 quid a year to fund the Daily Mail or face a jail sentence. |
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Thing is though, it's only your perception that it's impartial. In fact, it's only ever those who have fallen prey to certain online commentators who ever think it's impartial. Those who say "don't trust the MSM. They lie. Get your news from my anti-islam/pro-brexit/pro-trump/pro-guns/etc/etc site as I'm the only one who'll give you the real truth."
BBC and other MSM are regulated. They are monitored and if they lie or are found to be impartial then they are punished. Those online aren't so aren't punished if they ever distort the truth. But obviously, they're the ones telling the truth. |
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"In fact, it's only ever those who have fallen prey to certain online commentators who ever think it's impartial"
What a monumentally and obviously stupid thing to say. But par for the course from the author. |
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..... who clearly meant to say "not impartial"...
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Channel 4 , BBC , the guardian the list is endless according to the Spiv fans
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yeah, not impartial.
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Tbf, radio 4 seems to exist only to educate us all day everyday about our many minorities and how they suffer/have suffered. It's like Blue Peter for those who regard themselves as educated. Radio 5 does the same job on the less educated. Absolute rubbish to most of us.
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Would you agree to that the mail, sun , and telegraph does a similar thing in following its own biased slanted agenda
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I grew up in a house where the Mail and Sunday Express was delivered. When I left I bought the Guardian for around fifteen years. When it comes to unbridled/unashamed propaganda, the Guardian wins hands down.
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No the Guardian simply follows its agenda just like the Mail , Sun , Express and Telegraph all owned by billionaires who spew out the usual divide and conquer and defend the Establishment like they have always done
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And yes I would agree that the mail, sun and telegraph have a slanted agenda dictated by their owners, I don't have to buy them, or the Guardian. Who decides the BBC bias? I don't know, but I do have to pay for it.
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