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lfc1971It is the Capitalists who want immigration to drive the wages of the poor down... Labour should see this, but unfortunately they also rely on the immigration vote, so do nothing A little immigration benefits us, mass immigration does not. We need control of this I have nothing against immigrants themselves as even my own country dislikes me.... ![]() Just my own opinion |
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Another problem with mass immigration is they bring their culture with them....they are reluctant to change to ours.
I only have only to read this forum to see the problem we have with one culture in particular. This is another reason we need control of our immigration. |
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Facts calls Hitler right wing. We could have a discussion about that but probably best not to!
Nazism is the shortened version of National Socialism. Hitler himself said his party was neither left nor right. He despised them both. |
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soon you will not be able to disagree if you want to keep your job
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I'll say this for old Adolf, I don't think he'd have tolerated industrial scale immigrant rape gangs operating in 30s Lower Saxony and called anyone who complained about it "racist".
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oh well, every cloud eh
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"There good and bad in everyone" as they say.
Let us know when someone finds yours. |
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You could say that about muslims too JC ?
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i suppose injera will argue north korea is a democracy as it calls itself one
what motive do folk have for arguing hitler wasnt a fascist, ...i wonder ? |
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Could? Of course you could and should. What a ridiculous "question", exactly the sort of crap I'm on about!
Express any view against mass immigration and suddenly you're a nazi with the Guardian's checklist of strawmen to throw at you. Who are you, Owen Jones? ![]() |
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Hitler came into power on a National Socialist ticket then morphed into fascism,a path that many communist/socialist tryannies seem to follow. Absolute power seems to corrupt absolutely.
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either absolute power corrupts or those that seek it are already corrupted
but thats another debate, and both may prove to be true |
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Mass immigration of poor people with alien and often violent cultures cannot be good for any country. It should not be difficult for SJWs and even Guardian readers to accept that, but their code will not allow it.
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Owen Jones prime example, saddo. He berates people for questioning the importing of people into the country who would kill or at the very least oppress HIM due to his sexuality. And this is not really negotiable if they comply with what they believe to be the rules as laid out by "god". And he doesn't see what's wrong with this.
What a great example of someone who does not live in reality! He's good at flouncing out of studios though :) |
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praising Hitler, just how far right wing can this forum get
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Fascism: is a form of government which is a type of one-party dictatorship. Fascists are against democracy. They work for a totalitarian one-party state. ... It stands for a centralized government headed by a dictator.
Ahh, there was me thinking the EU was a dictatorship. Silly me, they have 4 (four) unelected dictators. |
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make your own definitions to correct your error
and make a new argument hey ho |
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Not my definition. Common knowledge that fascism is a one party, dogmatic state that rejects democracy.
And what was my error? That Nazism was National Socialism? |
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doesnt sound like a definition of fascism to me
north korea calls itself a democtacy so you must think it is |
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I wonder what the arch enemies Churchill and Hitler, would make of the world today over a few beers, and with the benefit of foresight.....whether they would conclude to have done anything differently or not?....
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osmond - give me your definition of fascism.
While you're at it, tell me which president of the EU you voted for. NK is based on Juche beliefs. They also call themselves socialist. They don't hold elections, so yeah, bit like the EU Presidencies. |
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whats the point of explaining to you?
whats it got to do with eu? you get more bizarre the more you are shown to be wrong |
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osmond
apart from anything else where do you think the idea of a united greater europe sprang from near the end of the war? |
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debate moves off onto new tangents as another myth is shattered
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Fascism is not the same thing as Nazional socialism
If you look at the first facist manifesto in Italy ( not sure about 1920) I suspect that it would appeal to very many people, it’s very progressive and leftist , it listed about 20 main objectives and is impressive if you take a look donny it would be interesting which if any parts of that manifesto you would disagree with |
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i dont speak, nor read italian,
having policies you have no intention of implementing does not define an ideology |
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It proposed a 36 hr working week , workers as part of business councils , votes for women , voting age 18, minimum wage etc
it’s quite surprising how far ahead of it’s time it was |
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But I agree it’s outcome was a disaster
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Reduction of retirement age from 65 to 55 , makes you wonder just how much progress have we made
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Revision of all military contracts , and seizure of 85% of profits
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lots of parties produce a manefesto to gain votes
i remember the time the lib dems wanted to scrap tuition fees.... |
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Abolition of the senate , it was the upper House of Parliament but in the hands of the wealthy and directly appointed by the king
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The quick enactment of a state law that sanctions a 8 hr workday for all workers
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proportional representation on a regional basis
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To show the same confidence in labour unions ( that price to be technically and morally worthy ) a s is given to business executives and public servants
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A strong progressive tax on capital
and so it goes on ...., |
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Winston Churchill was all for a United States of Europe after WWII and is recognised as one of the founding fathers of the idea for a European Union.
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Much of Europe had been razed to the ground and unity was seen as essential in rebuilding infrastructure and international relations , I assume
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It's not much of a union when one member calls all the shots.
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Especially when that member state were the recipients of the wooden-spoon in 1945
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