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By:
moisok
When: 12 Oct 18 18:01
islam is everything to do with one'e sexuality - what they believe which you clearly don't give a fig for osmond - how very phobic of you
By:
donny osmond
When: 12 Oct 18 18:05
more abuse moisok, mobo, not allowed to bet

how very consistant of you
By:
moisok
When: 12 Oct 18 18:05
over half think it should be illegal and don't even mention the sharia law issue



source - the guardian
By:
moisok
When: 12 Oct 18 18:08
didn't think you would support a group that would want homosexuality to be illegal

but you live and learn
By:
donny osmond
When: 12 Oct 18 18:10
jo cox would be chuckling at that being flung in desparation
By:
saddo
When: 12 Oct 18 19:06
Jo loved her voters.
By:
Injera
When: 12 Oct 18 19:54
so its got nothing to do with his sexuality, but you chucked it in anyway

kind of reflects on your thought process ...


donny - that's a bizarre post. In his recent book he highlights the dangers of Islam to gays, Jews, Christians and liberals across Europe.

By being gay himself, Murray has broken rank to say what higher profile gay activists will NOT say. That Islam is a great threat. For a gay journalist to do this is very relevant.

You and others discount Tommy because he's working class and a bit edgy. You label him racist, islamaphobic and far right. When it comes to middle class, gay Murray you haven't got the nerve to label him in the same way. Why?
By:
donny osmond
When: 12 Oct 18 20:01
does his sexulity validate his opinion

or lessen it

or make no difference?



staggering that you try to defend yourself too...
By:
thegiggilo
When: 12 Oct 18 22:50
Probably the same views a lot on here have about ''homosexuals'' the irony..
By:
moisok
When: 12 Oct 18 23:02
how do you know that?^^
have you done a poll?
just like the one the guardian reported on?
facts and evidence please?
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 13 Oct 18 13:22
Going back to the original post, I think soldiers are entitled to their own political beliefs.

When it comes to fighting for this country, soldiers have to obey orders, they have no decision in choosing what enemy

they fight, ultimately it is the government decides that.


As far as homosexuality is concerned.  it is worth remembering ALL Religions have always considered it morally wrong,

and most governments made it ILLEGAL. It was only made legal in 1967 in this country.


It is going to take time for people to accept this, Muslims most of all!


My only objection was Gay Marriage as Marriage has a special significance. I thought civil union was enough.


I have always thought it shoyld be legal, well you would not stop doing it anyway, I doubt we ever have.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 13 Oct 18 13:25
sb stop them doing it. It is part of human sexuality.
By:
saddo
When: 13 Oct 18 13:28
So is bestiality, them sheep will be demanding civil union soon  Laugh
By:
Slicer
When: 13 Oct 18 13:29
Tolerate homosexuality, certainly. Promote it ABSOLUTELY NOT! The Christian and Jewish religions are hypocrites if they accept homosexuality as Leviticus 18 & 20 state it is an abomination. Some adherents to these religions say it is old fashioned and we must now interpret it differently. OK then, lets re interpret the 10 Commandments and tolerate murder etc. OOps, of course the powers that be in London already do this due to the lack of police. Anyway, you know what I am getting at!
By:
saddo
When: 13 Oct 18 13:57
It's good that we re-interpret, if only the medievil(oops) mob would do likewise.
By:
Slicer
When: 13 Oct 18 14:05
There is nothing to reinterpret. The statements are there in black and white(if I am allowed to say that).
By:
moisok
When: 13 Oct 18 14:05
there is a huge difference between what is in the books and what is practised - I think you will find
Islam wants to prosecute its beliefs/scriptures whereas the other churches in england do not
By:
moisok
When: 13 Oct 18 14:09
doctor is spot on
nothing should be forced down our throats   err ummm!!  cough cough

if you know what I mean

there is one movement that wants to do that and it's not promoting it - It wants to make it illegal when they get their
new laws through.
it will take 20,000 per constituency and 300 constituencies  and they will have it
By:
Slicer
When: 13 Oct 18 14:10
You are correct. The point that I am making is that we got to this stage because of the doing away with standards. All this trans sexual, inter sexual stuff hardly existed 2 generations ago. It is all since the "re interpretation" of moral standards. When I was at school I was concentrating on passing exams not on whether I wanted to be a girl! Project forwards- doesn't bear thinking about!
By:
moisok
When: 13 Oct 18 14:16
it is just the ridiculous changing rooms, swimming pool, toilet thing - a perv's charter
the whole thing has been politicised by small me me me groups who make money and political capital out of it

I wish they would just leave us alone - most of us just want to get on and live our lives and have lots and lots of fun.

Pandora's box has been opened.
By:
Injera
When: 13 Oct 18 14:25
moisok - you've been sussed. My word, you look delightful!

https://youtu.be/6Fanea5kcfg
By:
moisok
When: 13 Oct 18 14:34
The makeup is absolutely awful - no idea what so ever - but then it is a queen isn't it.
By:
moisok
When: 13 Oct 18 14:36
Two things in life that are to your advantage - youth is one - if you haven't got age on your side then it is
a good foundation.  You are lost with out them.

ps and good legs of course.
By:
moisok
When: 13 Oct 18 14:50
scooped up a bit more on the czech game - doing well today
but my nails are ragged from all this typing!!!Shocked
By:
layemall
When: 13 Oct 18 16:28
A lot of well informed and "telling it just as it is" posts on this thread......with the exception of the few "STILL TOO BLIND(brainwashed) TO SEE" brigade......however, it will not be long though before you regret and adjust your views accordingly.......I am sure of that!
A day at the races still remains one of the few places I can go, be with like minded people, and not have an "in my face " reminder of what a total mess this country has become, thanks to our politicians, whose motives continue to elude me. Scared
By:
Slicer
When: 13 Oct 18 16:32
Summed up in one posting!
By:
saddo
When: 13 Oct 18 17:07
Brainwashed seems harsh, but I honestly believed everything I read in the Guardian years ago, and think that is probably still the case with readers of any publication which deliberately avoids balance.
By:
layemall
When: 13 Oct 18 17:11
Btw, petition signed of course..........and not harsh at all.....fact.......whatever the source/reason may be!!
By:
moisok
When: 13 Oct 18 17:16
the guardian was the 'go to' paper back in my day   - not any more - it is an establishment loving paper promoting the eu cause and a certain other quasi religious/political movement
By:
saddo
When: 13 Oct 18 17:17
With hindsight, they fed me a crock of shlt for 15 years.
By:
layemall
When: 13 Oct 18 17:29
As a very simple example, phrases like " a crock of ****", resonates with me, whereas nothing to do with Islam does!!
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 13 Oct 18 17:33
It is a cultural problem rather than a religious one according to this radio presenter on LBC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQWFhCSoWHE

Tommy Robinson clueless it would appear?
By:
saddo
When: 13 Oct 18 17:49
O'Brien one of the biggest traitors out there. He went to a school where kiddy fiddling was rife, but still he'll stick up for these voles.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 13 Oct 18 17:51
Straight away James O'Brien shows how he twists stuff in that video by comparing Asian grooming gangs who have been convicted, with someone in America who has been accused of something but not even tried.
Saying to condemn one and not the other is racism.

He's too devious for his own good, I usually give him a couple of minutes then turn him off.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 13 Oct 18 17:54
He has to get it in that white people also do bad things and we should not complain about one without the other.

He utterly refuses to see any link with religion.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 13 Oct 18 17:54
O'Brien got the boot from the BBC for showing too much left-wing bias over Trump.
And that takes some doing.
By:
saddo
When: 13 Oct 18 17:56
A Guardian mouthpiece on LBC, amazed the punters put up with him.
By:
Injera
When: 13 Oct 18 17:56
'British Asians' - I'll never go to a Chinese restaurant again.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 13 Oct 18 17:56
I wouldn't want O'Brien moving in next door to me.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 13 Oct 18 17:59
O'Brien said on The One Show, that you don't have to be in the right in order to win an argument.

Well he doesn't, because he talks over people to stop them making their points, and then cuts them off if they persist.
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