That’s ok , sometimes the question is more important that the answer

more enlightening ( you don’t understand that either do you northanlite )

There is no point reading words if you don’t understand words

It takes a certain amount of intelligence , and honesty as well northanlite, try that
go on, surprise yourself

Or pretend not to , which is a worse sin

When I become president of the Uk the first thing I will do is ban faith schools.

I will also ban the building of any more places of worship.

It doesn’t seem logical to me to say that we should ban faith schools
And not ban mosques

You would struggle to ban mosques.  Far easier to ban any further builds.

The numbers of things is very important

You will not stop the tide by banning mosques, we are too far gone. My daughter has just joined the growing white flight in this region and is moving to Silkstone Common which has a wonderful junior school to educate her future offspring. They should be safe round there for a generation or two yet.

You could say that to a Christian in this country with no penalty. If you said it to a Muslim in this country you would probably be in court.

there is no one in any real influence who will do anything about the burgeoning quasi political/religion problem

or who has the guts

too late

It never really mattered when Religion was just a small part of a kid's growing up in my day. It's the fanatics that changed the game, and they are the ones rapidly growing in number.

CofE

Take the blinkers off.

Famous Muslim  scientists

Astronomers
Sind ibn Ali (?-864)
Ali Qushji (1403-1474)
Ahmad Khani (1650-1707)
Ibrahim al-Fazari (?-777)
Muhammad al-Fazari (?-796 or 806)
Al-Khwarizmi, Mathematician (c. 780-c. 850)
Abu Ma'shar al-Balkhi (Albumasar) (787-886 CE)
Al-Farghani (800/805-870)
Banū Mūsā (Ben Mousa) (9th century)
Dīnawarī (815-896)
Al-Majriti (d. 1008 or 1007 CE)
Al-Battani (c. 858-929) (Albatenius)
Al-Farabi (c. 872-c. 950) (Abunaser)
Abd Al-Rahman Al Sufi (903-986)
Abu Sa'id Gorgani (9th century)
Kushyar ibn Labban (971-1029)
Abū Ja'far al-Khāzin (900-971)
Al-Mahani (8th century)
Al-Marwazi (9th century)
Al-Nayrizi (865-922)
Al-Saghani (d. 990)
Al-Farghani (9th century)
Abu Nasr Mansur (970-1036)
Abū Sahl al-Qūhī (10th century) (Kuhi)
Abu-Mahmud al-Khujandi (940-1000)
Abū al-Wafā' al-Būzjānī (940-998)
Ibn Yunus (950-1009)
Ibn al-Haytham (965-1040) (Alhacen)
Bīrūnī (973-1048)
Avicenna (980-1037) (Ibn Sīnā)
Abū Ishāq Ibrāhīm al-Zarqālī (1029-1087) (Arzachel)
Omar Khayyám (1048-1131)
Al-Khazini (fl. 1115-1130)
Ibn Bajjah (1095-1138) (Avempace)
Ibn Tufail (1105-1185) (Abubacer)
Nur Ed-Din Al Betrugi (12th century-1204) (Alpetragius)
Averroes (1126-1198)
Al-Jazari (1136-1206)
Sharaf al-Dīn al-Tūsī (died 1213/4)
Anvari (1126-1189)
Mo'ayyeduddin Urdi (died 1566)
Nasir al-Din Tusi (1201-1274)
Qutb al-Din al-Shirazi (1236-1311)
Shams al-Dīn al-Samarqandī (1250-1310)
Ibn al-Shatir (1304-1375)
Shams al-Dīn Abū Abd Allāh al-Khalīlī (1320-80)
Jamshīd al-Kāshī (1380-1429)
Ulugh Beg (1394-1449)
Taqi al-Din Muhammad ibn Ma'ruf (1526-1585)
Ahmad Nahavandi (8th and 9th centuries)
Haly Abenragel (10th and 11th century)
Abolfadl Harawi (10th century)
Mu'ayyad al-Din al-'Urdi (1200-1266)
Biologists, neuroscientists, and psychologists
Further information: Islamic psychological thought
Aziz Sancar, Turkish biochemist, the first Muslim biologist awarded the Nobel Prize
Ahmad-Reza Dehpour (1948- ), Iranian pharmacologist
Ibn Sirin (654-728), author of work on dreams and dream interpretation[1]
Al-Kindi (Alkindus), pioneer of psychotherapy and music therapy[2]
Ali ibn Sahl Rabban al-Tabari, pioneer of psychiatry, clinical psychiatry and clinical psychology[3]
Ahmed ibn Sahl al-Balkhi, pioneer of mental health,[4] medical psychology, cognitive psychology, cognitive therapy, psychophysiology and psychosomatic medicine[5]
Al-Farabi (Alpharabius), pioneer of social psychology and consciousness studies[6]
Ali ibn Abbas al-Majusi (Haly Abbas), pioneer of neuroanatomy, neurobiology and neurophysiology[6]
Abu al-Qasim al-Zahrawi (Abulcasis), pioneer of neurosurgery[7]
Ibn al-Haytham (Alhazen), founder of experimental psychology, psychophysics, phenomenology and visual perception[8]
Al-Biruni, pioneer of reaction time[9]
Avicenna (Ibn Sīnā), pioneer of neuropsychiatry,[10] thought experiment, self-awareness and self-consciousness[11]
Ibn Zuhr (Avenzoar), pioneer of neurology and neuropharmacology[7]
Syed Ziaur Rahman, pioneer of Environmental Pharmacovigilance
Averroes, pioneer of Parkinson's disease[7]
Ibn Tufail, pioneer of tabula rasa and nature versus nurture[12]
Mohammad Samir Hossain, theorist,[13] author and one of the few Muslim scientists[14] in the field of death anxiety research[13][15]
Chemists and alchemists
Further information: Alchemy (Islam)
Khalid ibn Yazid (died 704) (Calid)
Jafar al-Sadiq (702-765)
Jābir ibn Hayyān (721-815) (Geber), father of chemistry[16][17][18]
Abbas Ibn Firnas (810-887) (Armen Firman)
Al-Kindi (801-873) (Alkindus)
Al-Majriti (fl. 1007-1008)
Ibn Miskawayh (932-1030)
Abū Rayhān al-Bīrūnī (973-1048)
Avicenna (980-1037)
Al-Khazini (fl. 1115-1130)
Nasir al-Din Tusi (1201-1274)
Ibn Khaldun (1332-1406)
Salimuzzaman Siddiqui (1897-1994)
Al-Khwārizmī (780-850), algebra, mathematics
Ahmed H. Zewail (1946-2016), Egyptian Chemist and 1999 Nobel Prize in Chemistry[19]
Abbas Shafiee (1937-2016)
Mostafa El-Sayed (1933- )
Abdul Qadeer Khan (1936- )
Atta ur Rahman
Omar M. Yaghi (1965- )
Sara Akbar
Economists and social scientists
Further information: Islamic economics in the world
See also: List of Muslim historians and Historiography of early Islam
Abu Hanifa an-Nu‘man (699–767), Islamic jurisprudence scholar
Abu Yusuf (731–798), Islamic jurisprudence scholar
Al-Saghani (d. 990), one of the earliest historians of science[20]
Shams al-Mo'ali Abol-hasan Ghaboos ibn Wushmgir (Qabus) (d. 1012), economist
Abū Rayhān al-Bīrūnī (973–1048), considered the "first anthropologist"[21] and father of Indology[22]
Ibn Sīnā (Avicenna) (980–1037), economist
Ibn Miskawayh (b. 1030), economist
Al-Ghazali (Algazel) (1058–1111), economist
Al-Mawardi (1075–1158), economist
Nasīr al-Dīn al-Tūsī (Tusi) (1201–1274), economist
Ibn al-Nafis (1213–1288), sociologist
Ibn Taymiyyah (1263–1328), economist
Ibn Khaldun (1332–1406), forerunner of social sciences[23] such as demography,[24] cultural history,[25] historiography,[26] philosophy of history,[27] sociology[24][27] and economics[28][29]
Al-Maqrizi (1364–1442), economist
Akhtar Hameed Khan, Pakistani social scientist; pioneer of microcredit
Muhammad Yunus, Nobel Prize winner Bangladeshi economist; pioneer of microfinance
Shah Abdul Hannan, pioneer of Islamic banking in South Asia
Mahbub ul Haq, Pakistani economist; developer of Human Development Index and founder of Human Development Report[30][31]
Geographers and earth scientists
Further information: Muslim Agricultural Revolution
Al-Masudi, the "Herodotus of the Arabs", and pioneer of historical geography[32]
Al-Kindi, pioneer of environmental science[33]
Ibn Al-Jazzar
Al-Tamimi
Al-Masihi
Ali ibn Ridwan
Muhammad al-Idrisi, also a cartographer
Ahmad ibn Fadlan
Abū Rayhān al-Bīrūnī, father of geodesy,[21][24] considered the first geologist and "first anthropologist"[21]
Avicenna
Abd al-Latif al-Baghdadi
Averroes
Ibn al-Nafis
Ibn Jubayr
Ibn Battuta
Ibn Khaldun
Piri Reis
Evliya Çelebi
Mathematicians
Further information: Islamic mathematics: Biographies
Masatoshi Gündüz Ikeda (1926 Tokyo–2003 Ankara)
Cahit Arf 1910 Selanik (Thessaloniki)- 1997 Istanbul
Ali Qushji
Al-Hajjāj ibn Yūsuf ibn Matar
Khalid ibn Yazid (Calid)
Muhammad ibn Mūsā al-Khwārizmī (Algorismi), father of algebra[34] and algorithms[35]
'Abd al-Hamīd ibn Turk
Abū al-Hasan ibn Alī al-Qalasādī (1412–1482), pioneer of symbolic algebra[36]
Abū Kāmil Shujā ibn Aslam
Al-Abbās ibn Said al-Jawharī
Al-Kindi (Alkindus)
Banū Mūsā (Ben Mousa)
Ja'far Muhammad ibn Mūsā ibn Shākir
Al-Hasan ibn Mūsā ibn Shākir
Al-Khwarizmi
Al-Mahani
Ahmed ibn Yusuf
Al-Majriti
Al-Battani (Albatenius)
Al-Farabi (Abunaser)
Al-Nayrizi
Abū Ja'far al-Khāzin
Brethren of Purity
Abu'l-Hasan al-Uqlidisi
Al-Saghani
Abū Sahl al-Qūhī
Abu-Mahmud al-Khujandi
Abū al-Wafā' al-Būzjānī
Ibn Sahl
Al-Sijzi
Ibn Yunus
Abu Nasr Mansur
Kushyar ibn Labban
Al-Karaji
Ibn al-Haytham (Alhacen/Alhazen)
Abū Rayhān al-Bīrūnī
Ibn Tahir al-Baghdadi
Al-Nasawi
Al-Jayyani
Abū Ishāq Ibrāhīm al-Zarqālī (Arzachel)
Al-Mu'taman ibn Hud
Omar Khayyám
Al-Khazini
Ibn Bajjah (Avempace)
Al-Ghazali (Algazel)
Al-Marrakushi
Al-Samawal
Ibn Rushd (Averroes)
Ibn Seena (Avicenna)
Hunayn ibn Ishaq
Ibn al-Banna'
Ibn al-Shatir
Ja'far ibn Muhammad Abu Ma'shar al-Balkhi (Albumasar)
Jamshīd al-Kāshī
Kamāl al-Dīn al-Fārisī
Muḥyi al-Dīn al-Maghribī
Mo'ayyeduddin Urdi
Muhammad Baqir Yazdi
Nasir al-Din al-Tusi - 13th century Persian mathematician and philosopher
Qāḍī Zāda al-Rūmī
Qutb al-Din al-Shirazi
Shams al-Dīn al-Samarqandī
Sharaf al-Dīn al-Tūsī
Taqi al-Din Muhammad ibn Ma'ruf
Ulugh Beg
Al-Samawal al-Maghribi (1130–1180)
Philosophers
For a detailed list of Muslim philosophers, refer to the List of Muslim philosophers, for an exhaustive list of widely-known philosophers with Muslim faith or Islamic background, including modern day philosophers from Muslim community, a list is given here;

Al-Kindi
Averroes
Muhammad ibn Zakariya al-Razi
Al-Farabi
Avicenna
Ibn Arabi
Rumi
Jami
Ibn Khaldun
Mir Damad
Nasir al-Din al-Tusi
Muhammad Iqbal
Quassim Cassam
Allama Muhammad Iqbal
Physicians and surgeons
Main article: List of Muslim doctors
Physicists and engineers
Further information: Islamic physics
Mimar Sinan (1489-1588), also known as Koca Mi'mâr Sinân Âğâ
Jafar al-Sadiq, 8th century
Banū Mūsā (Ben Mousa), 9th century
Ja'far Muhammad ibn Mūsā ibn Shākir
Ahmad ibn Mūsā ibn Shākir
Al-Hasan ibn Mūsā ibn Shākir
Abbas Ibn Firnas (Armen Firman), 9th century
Al-Saghani (d. 990)
Abū Sahl al-Qūhī (Kuhi), 10th century
Ibn Sahl, 10th century
Ibn Yunus, 10th century
Al-Karaji, 10th century
Ibn al-Haytham (Alhacen), 11th century Iraqi scientist, father of optics,[37] and experimental physics,[38] considered the "first scientist"[39]
Abū Rayhān al-Bīrūnī, 11th century, pioneer of experimental mechanics[40]
Ibn Sīnā/Seena (Avicenna), 11th century
Al-Khazini, 12th century
Ibn Bajjah (Avempace), 12th century
Hibat Allah Abu'l-Barakat al-Baghdaadi (Nathanel), 12th century
Ibn Rushd/Rooshd (Averroes), 12th century Andalusian mathematician, philosopher and medical expert
Al-Jazari, 13th century civil engineer,
Nasir al-Din Tusi, 13th century
Qutb al-Din al-Shirazi, 13th century
Kamāl al-Dīn al-Fārisī, 13th century
Ibn al-Shatir, 14th century
Taqi al-Din Muhammad ibn Ma'ruf, 16th century
Hezarfen Ahmet Celebi, 17th century
Lagari Hasan Çelebi, 17th century
Sake Dean Mahomet, 18th century
Abdus Salam, 20th century Pakistani physicist, winner of Nobel Prize in 1979
Fazlur Khan, 20th century Bangladeshi Structural Engineer
Mahmoud Hessaby, 20th century Iranian physicist
Ali Javan, 20th century Iranian physicist
B. J. Habibie, 20th century Indonesian aerospace engineer and president
Abdul Kalam, Indian aeronautical engineer, nuclear scientist and the 11th President of India
Mehran Kardar, Iranian theoretical physicist
Munir Nayfeh Palestinian-American particle physicist
Abdul Qadeer Khan, Pakistani metallurgist and nuclear scientist
Riazuddin, Pakistani theoretical physicist
Samar Mubarakmand, Pakistani nuclear scientist known for his research in gamma spectroscopy and experimental development of the linear accelerator
Shahid Hussain Bokhari, Pakistani researcher in the field of parallel and distributed computing
Sultan Bashiruddin Mahmood, Pakistani nuclear engineer and nuclear physicist
Ali Musharafa, Egyptian nuclear physicist
Sameera Moussa, Egyptian nuclear physicist
Munir Ahmed Khan, Pakistani nuclear scientist
Kerim Kerimov, founder of Soviet space program, a lead architect behind first human spaceflight (Vostok 1), and the lead architect of the first space stations (Salyut and Mir)[41][42]
Farouk El-Baz, NASA scientist involved in the first Moon landings with the Apollo program[43]
Cumrun Vafa, Iranian theoretical physicist and string theorist
Jamal Nazrul Islam, Bangladeshi mathematical physicist and cosmologist
Political scientists
Shah Waliullah Dehlawi
Taqiuddin al-Nabhani
Syed Qutb
Mohammad Baqir al-Sadr
Abul Ala Maududi
Hasan al-Turabi
Hassan al-Banna
Mohamed Hassanein Heikal
M. A. Muqtedar Khan
Rashid al-Ghannushi
Ṣalāḥ ad-Dīn Yūsuf ibn Ayyūb
Maulana Abul Kalam Azad
Mohammad Ali Jinnah
Allama Muhammad Iqbal

Hate breeds hate and hating Muslims is just as bad as Muslims hating Christians and other religious sects. The sad thing is that in life, one usually finds that the "baddies" on all sides are not religious at all. Atheists wanting to ban Religion because they don`t believe in a God is just as bad as a religious nutter who wants to inflict his beliefs on an atheist. There will never be unity on this Planet. The world and the human race STINKS.

Also , I never hold or voice hatred for anybody until they express hatred for me .

Also , I never hold or voice hatred for anybody until they express hatred for me .

Exactly, hate breeds hatred.

It`s only human nature to hate someone that hates you. That is the problem. I hate that ******* I used to work with because I believe he hates me.

That’s an interesting list from the mightymac , just took a look at the first scientist at the top of his list
He was Jewish , that’s not a surprise of course