And he don't even have to pay his licence.

lfc1971 23 Jul 18 19:30

"Can’t believe anything a BBC newsnight reporter says"

more people are now waking up to this fact

it is the progressive way

edy   'mutti's'  lapdog

he loves the Fuhrer

IT, please refrain from using blanket labels towards other people. Doing so yourself is rather ignorant and completely goes against the spirit of this thread. I would like to be referred to as an ordoliberal.

Thank you very much.

I will pleasure you with a comment on this thread too if you wish too. I have voiced in the past that we wil get rid of religion. There is no way back. Humanity will continue to wise up, with some bumps in the road here and there, mind. Liberalism and human rights will win out, the issue will solve iself. Of course, it would be accelerated if people wouldn't keep sabotaging it by nurturing isolationism, division and religious fanatism. What we need instead is a continued outward looking USA and EU that work as beacons, in the case of the USA as a benevolent...not dictator, but...leader.

But as I said, we are getting there. We are currently in one of those sad bumps in the road, but the middle east will keep continue to be westernised, liberalised, the religious people will lose the power to oppress all others and women and children will be liberated and see their rights being granted.

Sarah Champion has been put under police protection after receiving death threats in Rotherham
She was accused by  the racial justice charity just Yorkshire acting director Nadeem Murtuja of industrial scale racism,

Labour hard left and Muslim opponents are trying to force her from office and allegedly want to replace her with a Muslim member of Parliament

Bradford man fathered three children with daughter

A "dishonourable and wicked" pensioner who fathered three children by his own daughter has been jailed for four-and-a-half years.

The woman told her husband of the abuse on her deathbed in the 1990s.

Ashraf Khan, now 81, of Kirkburn Place, Bradford, West Yorkshire, admitted three charges of incest dating back to the 1980s.

Bradford Crown Court heard the defendant's daughter was aged about 20 when she gave birth to the first child.

The Recorder of Bradford Judge Jonathan Durham Hall QC described the woman's husband as an honourable man because he had continued to care for the children even after a DNA test confirmed his wife's revelation.

The husband reported the offences to the police in 2012, but Khan was not questioned about the allegations until he returned to the UK from Pakistan in 2016.

He initially denied having any sexual relations with his daughter but in May this year he pleaded guilty to the three charges of incest.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-44950510

A generation of in bred muzzles ; God help us.Extremely light sentence.

policeman came out over telford abuse(been going on 40 years)
tried to play it down and criticised the media

ho ho

don't ever try and tell me it isn't going on

it is policy

it is what the command levels of the police dictate as policy and action

1. Oh I see, sorry.
2. No, because they didn't receive coverage. A bit of thinking, man, a bit of thinking...

You expect me to compile reports from all over Europe and the USA? No thank you.

As I said, just think a bit, my friend. You are not really under the illusion that, in ten years time, there hasn't been such a number of cases, are you?

While I'm at it, let me ask something else: Already before my reply where I asked you to refrain from using blanket labels, I googled something you quoted about the age of consent here. The page where you took it from, just a few lines above what you quoted, said that Bahrain, a muslim majority country if you're unaware, has the planet's highest age of consent.

The page also has an interactive map, where I couldn't fail to notice that e.g Turkey, Iraq and Egypt all have a higher age of consent than the UK.

There's something else: What you quoted was of course a lack of age of consent. I hope you understand that, in general, there is no need for a law regarding age of consent if sexual intercourse is forbidden outside of marriage and a country has a law regarding the legal age for marriage (which is the case for most of those countries without an extra age of consent. How much that is enforced by the state or simply ignored by the often tribal population is a different matter).

How come you failed to mention either of these things? Wait, I know why. You always claim you research things, question things, look at issues from all sides, but in reality you never do. You targetly research things with a bias in your head and gleefully stop all research once that bias of yours has successfully been confirmed.

Though...with it all being on display on the same internet website that you visited, not even that explanation really washes, does it? So...how come, mate?

Edy,

Why are you defending or playing down child marriage?

lets look at you showpiece place of Iraq where you say the 'age of consent is higher than the UK'

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/nov/14/catastrophic-iraq-law-could-legalise-marriage-for-children-as-young-as-nine

Now this law did not get through.

But I suggest you read what they were proposing and what community was pushing for it...

'Activists warn that proposal to amend legislation would set women’s rights back 50 years, allowing Muslim clerics to decide on marriage contracts

Some religious sects in Iraq believe the wife of the prophet Muhammad was aged nine, and say children of that age can marry, while others believe children can do so when they reach puberty.'

Now this is in the Guardian. Civil society pushed back against the laws. But ask yourself who proposed them.

Why are you so much in denial and trying to go down the line of 'some bad white people also do this' rather than discuss if culture and religious reasons might play a role here?

edy
25 Jul 18 03:59

"But as I said, we are getting there. We are currently in one of those sad bumps in the road, but the middle east will keep continue to be westernised, liberalised, the religious people will lose the power to oppress all others and women and children will be liberated and see their rights being granted."

STAGGERING .......heres a nice song too    https://youtu.be/PSZxmZmBfnU

Edy your second show piece...

But even though it contravenes domestic and international law, marrying a minor is not a criminal offense in Egypt and so it continues to happen on a large scale.
According to a 2017 census by the Central Agency for Public Mobilization and Statistics, 118,904 girls in Egypt were under 18 when they wed and 18,127 — 15 percent — were under 16.
The Ministry of Health says that 500,000 children are born every year to underage mothers.

http://www.arabnews.com/node/1252421/middle-east

That wasn't the question, mate, you know it.

Edy

1. which country are you saying it does not happen in on a large scale?
2. do you not believe the newspaper articles that state who is pushing for the ages to be brought down?

Seriously can you not see any kind of pattern here?

What religion do we believe the seemingly successful, stronger, civil society that pushed back against and rejected the law to belong to?

Iraq and Turkey are not run by clerics like Iran and Saudi.

Ah, so there is only a problem with clerics and not the common muslim. Good thing we cleared that up.

It is the clerics and a large number of their followers are practicing it.

I do not understand your view on this.

Do you think the BBC presenter was correct when he said it does not happen?

Have you seen me deny it? If I deny something I tend to say so. That's another thing with you.

The **** **** clerics will be gone before long, don't worry. We are in the process of breaking free from the hardcore Christian oppressing us, as are the common, (not always) silent majority (you love this term, don't you?) muslims of the middle east as you yourself quoted with the civil society in Iraq being strong enough to oppose them on proposed laws that would've negatively affected the rights of women and children.