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She 'believes' that in Muslim countries people are allowed to have sex with children.

The BBC reporter, who has been to lots of these countries, had to educate her that this is not the case.

In the most of the countries you actually have to be married to be allowed to have sex.

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By:
1st time poster
When: 22 Jul 18 14:44
married to the children or married to anyone ,Devil
By:
moisok
When: 22 Jul 18 14:49
'married'   that is a joke for starters
By:
Sica Dan
When: 22 Jul 18 15:09
They were allowed to do it for years in this country until the police finally noticed it was illegal.
By:
moisok
When: 22 Jul 18 15:52
As I understand it many of younger women are only married under sharia law and are not legally married

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/20/women-uk-islamic-wedding-legal-rights-civil-ceremony-marriage

basically they are sham marriages under british law

just wait for the defenders come on and deflect the discussion by quoting 'what about those indigenous women who have no marriage but live with men'

come on hurry up I am waiting
By:
moisok
When: 22 Jul 18 15:53
english law
By:
dambuster
When: 22 Jul 18 16:05
moisok, The defenders are all in the park having vegan barbecues and drinking elderflower wine.
They'll be back on monday morning, once they've read The Guardian
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 22 Jul 18 16:08
If consent is given if married I guess the age of consent is the same as the age people can get married. So in the UK this would be 16 with parents permission or 18 without?
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 22 Jul 18 18:59
More than 200,000 children were married in the US over the past 15 years, new figures have revealed.

Three 10-year-old girls and an 11-year-old boy were among the youngest to wed, under legal loopholes which allow minors to marry in certain circumstances.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 22 Jul 18 19:05
That is very disturbing PP. What is the age of consent in the states of those 200,000 children? Is it as soon as they are married?
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 22 Jul 18 19:08
No idea.

Just looking to add a bit of context to a topic where so many only care because the offence is committed by a certain religion.

Apologies if I've missed a thread about US paedos obviously.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 22 Jul 18 19:09
'More than 1,000 children aged 14 or under were granted marriage licences.

Most states set the age of sexual consent between 16 and 18 and a person can be charged with statutory rape for having sex with a minor. Yet many children were granted marriage licences, approved by judges, before they could legally consent to sex.'


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/200000-children-married-us-15-years-child-marriage-child-brides-new-jersey-chris-christie-a7830266.html

87% of the 200,000 were between 16 and 18. But to have over 1000 under 14 is just plain sick. At least the age of consent between 16 and 18 stands.
By:
detraveller
When: 22 Jul 18 19:32
I think the woman realized she had messed up and was choosing her words really carefully to see if she could reverse the damage she had already done to her credibility. Sadly she couldn't, not in front of a BBC reporter anyways.

I don't understand why people like her don't do their homework. How hard is it to find something in today's world that you could use as evidence against Islam, Sharia or muslims? If she had bothered to find out what goes on in many muslim countries, and equipped herself with some facts, she wouldn't have made a fool of herself and the BBC reporter wouldn't have dared approach her.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 22 Jul 18 19:40
If she had said there were 40,000 marriages a year in Iran to girls under the age of 15 there is no legal age of consent inside marriage I guess he would not have shown it in the film.
By:
moisok
When: 22 Jul 18 19:42
I am interested what goes on in the uk  - it is disgusting

do you want me to start on the yemen india pakistan etc etc

the defenders of the untouchable queue up with their whataboutery  ho ho
By:
moisok
When: 22 Jul 18 19:43
porky and detraveller have an agenda of denial and love to side with the several million who are practising this in my country

what has any other country got to do with it

this is the uk not the usa

i was not aware that we lived under US  law?
By:
detraveller
When: 22 Jul 18 19:44
ok
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 22 Jul 18 19:54
I don't understand why people like her don't do their homework. How hard is it to find something in today's world that you could use as evidence against Islam

Perhaps you could organise a door to door leaflet campaign highlighting all these ills.
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 22 Jul 18 19:56
Not everyone reads the chit chat forum.
By:
detraveller
When: 23 Jul 18 01:24
That's what Tommy is for.
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 23 Jul 18 08:23
And yet here we have a case of him failing to educate one of his own ardent supporters. Pardon me, but I don't have much faith in him getting his message out to the wider public.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 23 Jul 18 10:38
Except that it appears that the lady was correct and the patronising BBC Newsnight presenter was completely and utterly wrong.

'several Middle Eastern and African countries have no legal age of consent, but ban all sexual relations outside of marriage. This has raised concerns by many international organizations, especially in some countries where girls are married at as young as 9 or 10 years old. Countries with marriage-based ages of consent include Afghanistan, Iran, Kuwait, Libya, Maldives, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, and the UAE.'

What do those countries have in common?
By:
posy
When: 23 Jul 18 13:55
Tommy Robinson yawn yawn...can't understand why the shaven head class give two hoots to this rabble rouser.I would fully support the Government coming down hard on immigrants (legal and illegal) and throwing the key away on those convicted of grooming under age girls however convicted criminal Robinson is not the answer and the sooner he disappears the better.
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 Jul 18 13:57
He talks a lot of sense, who could deny that ?
By:
twizzle22
When: 23 Jul 18 14:08
If it wasn't for the likes of the Tommy Robinson's of this world you wouldn't get to hear about the  grooming gangs,politically correct policing and radicalisation posy you sanctimonious twot.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 23 Jul 18 15:29
That is bull crape twizzle

People like Andrew Norfolk are the ones who need praise for exposing the grooming gangs were Pakistani in origin. People like Stephen Yaxley-Lennon have jumped on the band waggon for their own political ends!
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 23 Jul 18 16:04
Norfolk started research in 2010. Tommy Robinson started his campaigning in 2009.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzwVnzUt87k

Both raised the profile of what is going on.

The question is why is it happening? This is something the media and politicians are willing to discuss.

You have people that that Newsnight interviewer to making up his own facts to try to make protestors look stupid.
By:
posy
When: 23 Jul 18 17:07
I think Whispering is correct in his assertion that Yaxley-Brown is a self-publicist for his own political ends. Have you ever considered why he changed his name to Tommy Robinson ? There's hardly another name in British history to touch it with its patriotic connections and associations with the ordinary foot soldiers who fought in the war.  Certainly a name to stir up  the mob/rabble when it suits him. I've no time for demagogues of any description and certainly not for someone evoking the memory of brave working class soldiers by virtue of a name change.
By:
Reynard
When: 23 Jul 18 17:17
Lord Stansgate changed his name for political ends . I may be wrong but Mr Robinson doesn't aspire to political status .
By:
detraveller
When: 23 Jul 18 17:19

Jul 23, 2018 -- 5:17PM, Reynard wrote:


Lord Stansgate changed his name for political ends . I may be wrong but Mr Robinson doesn't aspire to political status .


...yet.

By:
lfc1971
When: 23 Jul 18 17:36
If Tommy Robinson changed his name to a good English sounding name that’s a good sign right there .
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 Jul 18 17:38
Queen Elizabeth’s parents did the same thing , quite right
By:
twizzle22
When: 23 Jul 18 17:38
Why try to demonise someone who has the indigenous British population at heart.There is no political motive in what TR is trying to achieve but some of you pious lot on here just can't see the wood through the trees.
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 Jul 18 17:43
You see a name can be quite important , especially when you are living in England
By:
Injera
When: 23 Jul 18 17:45
I'm reading the 'Strange Death of Europe' by Douglas Murray.

He cites failures at ALL levels over the grooming scandals in the UK and on the Continent. The cover up is on a scale that we can't even imagine. Of course we hear little of the scandals in Germany, Sweden etc.

'Robinson' can call himself any name under the sun for all I care. The fact that he highlights these atrocities is proof enough that I want him on the side of my daughter, your daughters, etc etc.

Muslims from a number of countries see white girls as fair game. They see ALL women as second class. They're medieval. For liberals to support the spread of Islam is shameful, disgusting and perverse.
By:
moisok
When: 23 Jul 18 17:45
check out the polls done amongst them and see how much they love English law
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 Jul 18 17:45
Tommy Fleetwood playing in the British Open , lovely name
By:
twizzle22
When: 23 Jul 18 17:47
Loving that post Injera
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 Jul 18 17:48
Be careful we don’t lose our English names
By:
moisok
When: 23 Jul 18 17:48
LGBTQI would be in trouble
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