Chit Chat
Ireland's Abortion vote on Friday
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Yes, no concession whatever that abortions aren't fun and aren't an easy choice.
Is it that those who voted yes are all wrong? |
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One thing I haven't seen throughout this thread is that it is fairly likely that just about EVERY woman who has an abortion, doesn't take the decision lightly, nor is it a thing of enjoyment. A load of ignorant men pontificating from a completely self-belief perspective is not where the decision should lie.
You'd think it's the case that women are like "oops, had unprotected sex, best have an abortion" and that's it the way the idiots are going on in this thread. Presumambly 50% of those aborted are female...in fact in a few cultures girls are considered inferior, hence why the NHS in places like Luton don't even offer free screening for gender. say what you really mean on this one  To argue that women have the right to have an abortion just as one might decide what shoes one prefers to wear is making a mockery of a serious issue. where as your moronic comparison very much is taking a serious issue, seriously |
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it also appears that women are magically having babies appear inside them without the aid of a second party who could use contraception too
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Undeveloped foetuses do not have a developed nervous system.
and yet are valued above that of an actual living woman's health |
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believe it or not, humans do have sex for pleasure and not just reproductive purposes
sometimes you don't take all precautions beforehand. to talk that you should be punished with having to give birth if you don't says a lot |
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What has a woman got to lose from voting for a law change, since the woman can always choose to not get in the position of being pregnant anyway? Its no surprise that women would largely find this a further extension of empowerment and nothing more, in effect a zero loss event. That doesn't mean their choice is based on morality however simply because it gives them power to not be prosecuted. |
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it also appears that women are magically having babies appear inside them without the aid of a second party who could use contraception too
Yes, maybe we should really balance the logic and make it permissible for the male to be allowed to force a female to have an abortion too? |
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did a woman you have sex with have an abortion, you sound very bitter and hateful towards women
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Yes, no concession whatever that abortions aren't fun and aren't an easy choice.
And yet they still have them, either legally by having to travel or illegally. So what about answering my question as to how we shape society other than through education and or punishment? |
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i think some blokes see contraception as a womans issue
i think in the past some females have been pressured by males into having an abortion, its probably still going on today some folk care about unborn kids more than those alive, or so it would seem. i think i am pleased abortion is available, i'm not sure i would ever advise anybody to have one. |
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Maybe we all could do as we please without society meddling?
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Healthcare???
What happens during an abortion aaronh? To the head, heart, arms and legs of the foetus? Every conception leads to a unique life being formed. This life will NEVER be replicated. It is his/her only chance. Sex is of course as you say for pleasure also. But it comes with responsibility. It can produce life...Take that responsibility and don't kill it stone dead. |
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i think i am pleased abortion is available, i'm not sure i would ever advise anybody to have one.
yes, Big Abortion is going to come and starting aborting random kids. if you want one, you can now do it safely in your own country. if you don't, it's fine |
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I don't think you can equate the two. To favour abortion on the grounds of economics is a tad harsh...
Why stop there? Infanticide? Euthanasia a la Logan's Run perhaps. So what happens to the little one who has arms, legs, a heart and a head aaronh? I assume you've seen the (banned) pictures? They are of course banned from publication for a reason and it's because it's utterly horrific. |
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banned from publication but easily accessible I'm guessing
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i thought church was against birth control?
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Responsibility is 'emotive rubbish'?
Not a parent eh.. |
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nope
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assisted suicide is actually good, as long as it is carefully regulated to stop any abuse and required multiple doctors agreeing or something like that
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aaronh - out of interest..given your encouragement of abortion, if I said you should have been aborted I presume you won't take offence?
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depends if you are also happy to say people who agree with you on things should have been aborted too
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The point is not that they are easily accessible , the point is why are they banned
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I'll ask again (like I do many times to those who think abortion is good), what happens to the arms, legs, heart, head....?
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That doesn’t answer the question now does it ?
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I said 'if'.
And why the sad face? Surely abortion is not harmful in any way?? As someone who thinks life is worth protecting I'm glad you're here. |
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be weird if you said something that is considered so hideously offensive to yourself
 if my mum was not in the right frame of mind, situation to give birth etc - why should I say that she should have given birth to me |
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Yup, just like killing people is banned (cos of the 10 commandments).
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yeah, your neighbours across the river can access a certain type of healthcare freely and safely and you can't because of religious feelings. how can people see that as unjust
Is this an extension of the me me me too movement where because others have allowed it so must everyone? Maybe this is the continuation of the democracy in action lie, that we wrote our laws and fully agree with them simply by being born where we were? |
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nope try again , the pictures are not banned because of the Catholic Church, they are banned because pro abortion people like yourself cannot stand too much reality and want to surpress the truth
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The point is they are banned , and for a reason as Injera says
No one really wants to see the reality |