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The unborn child is I am afraid not the property of the woman to do with as she wishes Well whether you like it or not it is, & will be the same in Ireland shortly albeit under more stringent conditions. |
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Ah, no it’s not, you don’t have to agree
That seems to me to be a good arrangement |
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for lfc and others against
are you for things like increased child benefit, extended paid maternity/paternity leave, free childcare schemes and other benefits that may encourage people who might otherwise not feel ready to have a child? |
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No
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It'd be the Christian thing to support.
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thought it very unlikely but had to make sure to see if you actually cared about the child once it was born or only had feelings about it during the pregnancy process
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I don’t think we need to worry about poverty in Britain , there is none
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can you provide some stats to prove that and not from some biased site that I do not like please
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It’s very simple take a look at household incomes
And perhaps give a few examples of poverty in Britain, go ahead |
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i could post some figures but it's a pointless doing so
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Thought so
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it's not a Britain specific point anyway.
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especially in America, the most avid of pro-lifers are also against most of these things and stuff like free birth control, better sex education and the like
things that might actually reduce abortions rather than the way they go about it now |
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Every country must take care of itself , in Britain there is no poverty
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does this mean that you do support abortion in places where you deem there to be poverty
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It doesn’t matter what avid pro lifers are against there has never been so much , and yet so many abortions
So it’s not a matter of poverty |
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you could discourage abortions by saying it's not right and shouldn't happen or you can take active steps to encourage people who may not feel ready to have a child
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That’s fine I’m not against that, I am against abortion
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Maybe fine people for having children : )
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Most recently the rate has been declining from the peak in 2007 of 17.9 abortions per 1,000 resident women,
and has been relatively stable at around 16 per 1,000 women since 2011. (Table 1 and Figure 1). 2.5 Abortion rates for those aged under 25 have shown some decline over the last ten years. The decline is particularly marked in the under-16 and 16-17 age groups where the rates have both halved since 2006. In particular the abortion rate in the 16-17 age group declined from a peak of 23.4 per 1,000 women in 2007, to 10.8 per 1,000 women in 2016. 2.6 The abortion rate for 18-19 year olds also declined from 33.3 per 1,000 women in 2006 to 23.0 per 1,000 women in 2016, and for those aged 20-24 the rate also declined from 32.5 per 1,000 women in 2006 to 27.0 per 1,000 women in 2016. ![]() |
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That’s if you can believe the figures , not sure good if true
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true, Big Abortion could be fiddling the figures
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I would have to look at how they came to those figures , haven’t time now
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should take a few hundred or thousand off for the Irish women who had to travel to the UK because their backwards country wasn't letting them to begin with
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I voted no.
England and Wales have one abortion a year for every 303 people (my calculation). |
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Looking at the split of vote it looks like Dublin has swayed it BIG time in favour of the YES vote. Rest of the country much tighter percentages. Dublin is like London. It doesn't represent the view of the rest of the country. Similar with the Brexit vote London and the rest of the country
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looks like most areas voted yes...
Limerick County: Yes 24,448 (58.1%), no 17,644 (41.9%) Limerick City: Yes 32,169 (66.9%), no 15,941 (33.1%) Louth: Yes 46,429 (66.6%), no 23,333 (33.4%) Tipperary: Yes 42,731 (59.1%), no 29,516 (40.9%) Kildare South: Yes 27,307 (70.7%), no 11,339 (29.3%) Kildare North: Yes 40,058 (73.6%), no 14,399 (26.4%) Clare: Yes 34,328 (64.3%), no 19,079 (35.7%) Wexford:Yes 49,935 (68.4%), no 23,069 (31.6%) Laois: Yes 24,232 (61.4%), no 15,264 (38.6%) Waterford: Yes 37,016 (69.4%), no 16,296 (30.6%) Carlow/Kilkenny: Yes 44,211 (63.5%), no 25,418 (36.5%) Wicklow: Yes54,629 (74.3%), no 18,931 (25.7%) Cork North-Central: Yes 33,639 (64.02%), no 18,908 (35.98%) Cork East: Yes 34,941 (64.1%), no 19,550 (35.9%) Cork South-West: Yes 26,147 (64.5%), no 14,387 (35.5%) Cork South Central: Yes 40,071 (68.84%), no 18,138 (31.16%) Cork North-West: Yes 27,194 (60.1%), no 18,054 (39.9%) Dublin Central: Yes 18,863 (76.51%), no 5,790 (23.49%) Dublin Bay South: Yes 33,919 (78.5%), no 9,298 (21.5%) Dublin North-West: Yes 28,477 (73.1%), no 10,489 (26.9%) Dublin Rathdown: Yes 34,529 (76.1%), no 10,845 (23.9%) Dublin South-West: Yes 54,642 (74.9%), no 18,301 Dublin Fingal: Yes 51,840 (77%), no 15,523 (23%) Dublin West: Yes 33,595 (74%), no 11,794 (36%) Dublin South-Central: Yes 34,201 (74.8%), no 11,530 Dublin Bay North:Yes 57,754 (74.7%), no 19,573 (25.3%) Dublin Mid-West: Yes 35,192 (73.27%), no 12,838 (26.73%) Galway East: Yes 26,525 (60.18%), no 17,546 (39.81%) Galway West: Yes 42,422 (65.9%), no 21,906 (34.1%) Offaly: Yes 24,781 (58.1%), no 17,908 (41.9%) Meath East: Yes 30,686 (69.2%), no 13,652 (30.8%) Meath West: Yes 26,343 (63.95%), no 14,850 (36.05%) Roscommon-Galway: Yes 23,677 (57.2%), no 17,709 (42.79%) Donegal: Yes 32,559 (48.1%), no 35,091 (51.9%) Sligo-Leitrim: Yes 34,685 (59.4%), no 23,730 (40.6%) Kerry: Yes 40,285 (58.3%), no 28,851 (41.7%) Mayo: Yes 32,287 (57.1%), no 24,287 (42.9%) Cavan-Monaghan: Yes 32,115 (55.5%), no 25,789 (44.5%) Longford-Westmeath: Yes 30,876 (58.3%), no 22,113 (41.7%) Dún Laoghaire: Yes 50,243 (77.1%), no 14,953 (22.9%) |
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3/4 of those are 60% and above or 2/3 if you take out the Dublin 10, pretty emphatic
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aaronh - those counties your talking about are all on the East under Leinster. Yes still topped in the west but not as much as the west Brit areas near Dublin
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Looks like the city areas were BIG on the Yes vote compared to the sticks
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Are women allowed to drive in Ireland or is that still to go to the vote as well? Backward bumkins IMO, only just ahead of Saudi Arabia......................
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I like the sticks , I like the older Irish people , much older
Not the younger |
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Progressive is the Buzz Word.
Where have we heard that before ? |
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They’re going to fcuk up the way England has
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They are turning in England and Sinn Fein are at the heart of it. The Irony
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Girl Power.....
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Really ? , tell me what the household income is or pipe down
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