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By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Mar 18 10:47
I don't agree, I have had a look around the world where they have strong muslin leaders and I have to tell you they are not the place for me
Strong Christian leaders such as in the Czech rep i could live there quite happily
By:
Get me a drink
When: 17 Mar 18 10:53
I must admit that Islam is not the religion for me. I've been brought up in a largely Christian environment and so it's only natural that I would prefer to live in the kind of environment I'm used to.

Things have been made to change though, so younger generations won't feel how I feel.
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Mar 18 10:55
Why not, are they stupid?
By:
Get me a drink
When: 17 Mar 18 11:14
Well everyon'es different and that s a good thing. The left want everyone to think the same way like conformist robots. The same as some religions too.
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Mar 18 11:19
It is not a good thing, people in a country, especially a democracy have to believe in pretty much the same things, the same beliefs and fundamentals and on how they want to live their life
If they are different , and believe in different things and have different values ..

Then you have a very major problem
By:
moisok
When: 17 Mar 18 11:47
Race card played by elise - now who would imagine that.  I believe the so called religion is not a race.  Hope this helps.
By:
moisok
When: 17 Mar 18 12:13
Racist eh???
So are the people reporting it all over the country then??

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/police-blasted-over-telford-abuse-14413498
By:
moisok
When: 17 Mar 18 12:22
What is scary is how the police are attempting to gloss over the figures.

Here is an example.

West Mercia Police Supt Tom Harding, who is in overall charge of policing in Telford, said police and authorities in the town were working with "approximately 46 young people" who were victims of CSE or considered "at risk".

He added: "Therefore, I significantly dispute the 1,000-plus figure, and do feel it is sensationalised.

"Read the headlines, read the reports. What are they actually discussing? They're discussing cases from 20 or 30 years ago, offending back in the 1990s."

So it is ok to not mention what went on the 1990s?
Nothing done much about it in the past. The mirror report says this has been going on since the 80s
You would only need 25 girls affected each year to make the number 1000 so it could be a lot more.  There were 100 cases alone between 07 and 09(police figures)  so what about before then and since.  As with the yorkshire cases - it is claimed it is still going on and many perps are still walking the streets and exploiting young girls.  They are still trying to cover it up.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 17 Mar 18 12:42
It is on BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-43441030

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-43416027

It is interesting the way they report it:

'The town has been in the spotlight since the Sunday Mirror published a report about "groups of mainly Asian men" targeting vulnerable white teenagers in the town since the 1980s.'

Why state 'Asian' and not just men?
By:
moisok
When: 17 Mar 18 12:54
bbc shropshire   of course it is in shropshire - it only in shropshire - doesn't happen outside shropshire

do you get the drift - not worthy of national news MOST  of the time

the council itself told the government it was not deserving of a public enquiry despite the local mp demanding it

it is all about trying to contain it and not get too national as there are several million voters they do not want to upset

the council has now changed its tune after the mp went national with it in a parliamentary speech

they are just slime  - they have attempted damage limitation and have been found out
By:
moisok
When: 17 Mar 18 12:59
They are trying to pour cold water on it - a PR exercise - they have specialists who are paid out of your taxes to help cover up bad news.  As more and more girls are coming forward as I type.

It mainly affects the poorer element of our society, who have no influence and little if any legal expertise or legal help.
I know there is one legal eagle on the case but................

Meanwhile elected officials behave appallingly over this.
By:
saddo
When: 17 Mar 18 14:10
moisok    17 Mar 18 11:13 
Racist eh???
So are the people reporting it all over the country then??

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/police-blasted-over-telford-abuse-14413498




Police accused of 'victim blaming at it's worst' now. Great stuff, they let it go on in the name of PC, and now they are being accused of committing a PC crime they will be pursued relentlessly. They'll be wishing they'd prosecuted the bad men in the first place now.
By:
moisok
When: 17 Mar 18 14:58
I have always said the rot is at the top as far as the police and local government is concerned.  These people are educated into the agenda and narrative early on at university.  Local government is already of one view, or protecting, or covering up mistakes.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 17 Mar 18 15:07
This idea of 'consent' for under 16s is unbelievable. Anyone in a job where there should be protecting children promoting that view should be jailed.
By:
GoOnThen
When: 17 Mar 18 15:13
Maggie Oliver interviewed on BBC couch this morning with Naga Charlie.Never once mentioned the words Asian, Pakistani and racism when asked why the authorities consistently try to cover up and deny the full extent of the abuse.
By:
moisok
When: 17 Mar 18 15:17
VOTES
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 17 Mar 18 15:34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu2iy_Jozoc
By:
Platini
When: 17 Mar 18 15:56
The use of "Asian" is probably deliberate, intended to deflect and muddy the waters. The nationality (by country or continent) is irrelevant, but the MSM will happily use that in order to avoid shining the spotlight on the real culprit - i.e the religion that must not be criticised.
By:
treetop
When: 17 Mar 18 15:56
What puzzles me is how there was  a Despatches style programme in a northern town nearly 20 years ago that featured young white girls from poor backgrounds and childrens homes saying, quite clearly, that asian immigrants were taking over some areas and they were being exploited for sex and their complaints were being ignored by the police. This is not new but I recall thinking because they were from the poorer parts of the town they were being treated offhand by the authorities. Like Jimmy Saville,it was uncomfortable viewing and some social workers will have had their careers mashed for trying to speak out.No chance of the senior managers being held to account.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 17 Mar 18 16:17
Until the mainstream middle classes are affected they will not stand with the groups protesting for fear of losing their jobs.
By:
moisok
When: 17 Mar 18 18:42
likewise the televisual experience - they just don't want to handle these news items as they are so grubby and it is only poor youngsters -of no importance  - sorry but that is the picture I get

but bomb some civilians in ghouta and they are all over it - why is there such bias - the telford ones are our own people??
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 17 Mar 18 19:04
Yeah bomb a few civilians, not newsworthy, not important, eh?
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 17 Mar 18 19:06
Interesting interview here if you are able to not prejudge the person asking the questions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bjks3fmajM
By:
casemoney
When: 17 Mar 18 19:22
I would like to know the religion and Gender of those who choose what is Reported on the BBC ..

The parsons Green thing was described as a Fantasist Plain
By:
moisok
When: 17 Mar 18 19:37
likewise the televisual news progs concentrate on ghouta but nearly(but not quite) ignore turkey's invasion of syria where hundreds of thousands of civilians are at risk

they have an agenda and studyform sucks it all up
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 17 Mar 18 21:10
Moisok, you consistently and obsessively ramble on and on about; the cult, the clan, people with beards, how you are a Labour member (yeah, right), how everyone is biased and how ALL "people of a certain religion" and how all the crimes and rapes and trouble we have is down to those of an eastern faith, blah blah blah, etc etc"
You're like a German activist in the 1930's

But, ffs, suggesting any "agenda" to broadcast the deaths and misery of ordinary people in a war is a part of a cover-up to deflect from how nasty those 'clanspeople' are, is even more ridiculous than your normal tosh.

You obviously have no concept of what it must be like to be an ordinary person living in eastern Ghouta right now. It isn't a competition with anywhere else that has strife and in and of itself is a crisis.

You have issues, moisok. You need to change the record, this one is scratched and worn out.
By:
moisok
When: 17 Mar 18 21:14
I am that cult - many have said that to me although I am a bit deaf

I thankyou most humbly for your excellent contribution to my news channel

while the turkey invasion of syria and deaths of innocent children are being killed by one of the
nastiest regimes around - almost ignored as it doesn't fit the agenda
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 17 Mar 18 21:16
STUDYFORM,
Did you watch the videos provided or are you happy to keep your head in the sand?
By:
moisok
When: 17 Mar 18 21:17
Eastern faith   - there are lots of them - you need to change the record your one is scratched and worn out

my experiences of the middle east and far east are legendary  - at least I have lived and worked there.

Even some of the nice people from there also consider me a cult
By:
moisok
When: 17 Mar 18 21:18
Some people are unable to see a wider view of what is going on.  Minds are completely closed to an alternative viewpoint.  They just suck up the agenda following the narrative like a broken record.
By:
moisok
When: 17 Mar 18 21:20
Three of my friends number 2 muslims and one hindu - think the rest don't give a fig even though they are these mysterious eastern people

a sort of cover for the whole of the eastern nations  and very confusing when the authorities mean just one region ho ho

I see you are keen to use that also.
By:
moisok
When: 17 Mar 18 21:25
I have been a member of the labour party for over 40 years.  I dislike people who cast aspersions to denigrate when they have no proof which I can provide of course. This is the tactic of 'progressives' who wish to deflect and obfuscate and belittle people who have different ideas and any who oppose their narrative.  They brook no opposition.
By:
moisok
When: 17 Mar 18 21:27
and of course followed up with further personal insults - aren't they wonderful - forget any debate or answer any points

just accuse them of being nazis  when those types actually are using the tactics of the nazis they claim to hate
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 17 Mar 18 21:38
I don't really give a shoite about the crap you write gernerally, but the comment about " bombing a few civilians in eastern Ghouta" being of no consequence compared to something which is, lets face it, on YOUR agenda, is BS of the highest order.

Fortunately there are still a few people on here who can keep more of a balanced view. For me this just involves thinking of others in a far worse situation than ourselves and empathising a little... unlike so many of you constant politicos who never get involved in anything else...
speaking of which, no I T, I didn't, I couldn't give a feck about any videos posted on here for political mileage. Particularly by you.

For a Labour party member, you post an awful lot of anti-Labour stuff, moisok. As for personal insults, a comment like the one you made about eastern Ghouta shows you to be a bit of a cnt IMHO. I'm not accusing you of being a Nazi, just saying how it must have been in an average German beirkeller in the 30's and how it is on this forum. There are parallels and you are busy propping up the bar.

fwiw, I answer plenty of points on here, but it won't change anything, because so many people are here for just the one reason.
(Insider Trader particularly), hence my reluctance to join in the impossible needless 'debates'.
They are all useless, because one of you will start posting some made-up garbage from a far-right site (which invariably claims not to be) and never actually debate anything.

If you had spent any of the last few weeks living in eastern Ghouta, you'd never have written such crass nonsense.
By:
moisok
When: 17 Mar 18 21:53
where have I said 'bombing a few civilians in eastern ghouta'  and your comment added of ('being of no consequence (your words)?? compared to something which is, lets face on your agenda') when it was a comparison of a  murderous attack in syria by turkey which is left alone largely by the media whereas they are all over it with ghouta - many hundreds of thousands involved which you ignore and do not mention  (your agenda).

Basically you use the nazi card to label which is very naughty of you.  But typical of progressives everywhere and quote things which I have not said on here.
I wonder what it would be like if you lived in amfrin and had fought against Deash and now seeing you people (innocent civilians) being murdered by turkey's invasion

but as usual you are one eyed about it all   - your balance is of the highest order achieved with a chip on both shoulders

then off you go  reluctant to debate - very poor but typical of the smearing type
By:
moisok
When: 17 Mar 18 21:54
whoops afrin
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 17 Mar 18 22:05
moisok  • March 17, 2018 5:42 PM GMT 

likewise the televisual experience - they just don't want to handle these news items as they are so grubby and it is only poor youngsters -of no importance  - sorry but that is the picture I get

but bomb some civilians in ghouta and they are all over it - why is there such bias - the telford ones are our own people??
By:
moisok
When: 17 Mar 18 22:07
and excluded all i have said about the same happening in northern syria perpetuated by turkey 

I see how you censor  to provide a 'balanced' view point  you have ignored the several times I have mentioned the turkey invasion to compare to the reporting of ghouta which is extensive but afrin is not

I rest my case
By:
moisok
When: 17 Mar 18 22:08
moisok    17 Mar 18 18:37 
likewise the televisual news progs concentrate on ghouta but nearly(but not quite) ignore turkey's invasion of syria where hundreds of thousands of civilians are at risk

they have an agenda and studyform sucks it all up
By:
moisok
When: 17 Mar 18 22:11
moisok    17 Mar 18 20:14 
I am that cult - many have said that to me although I am a bit deaf

I thankyou most humbly for your excellent contribution to my news channel

while the turkey invasion of syria and deaths of innocent children are being killed by one of the
nastiest regimes around - almost ignored as it doesn't fit the agenda
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