nah you are just being one eyed about it and clearly as the agenda of the west is set to virtually ignore the killing of lots of civilians in afrin while you emhasise ghouta

you are following the establishment pattern here

MOIS this is Nationwide been Going on years and Still ongoing. as we Know certain Types think young white Girls are Trash  to be Raped and Exploited ,The Number of the Certain Types is on the Increase ,Girls who Refuse or Try to go the Police are Run over or their family Homes Burnt Down MURDERED .. I am unaware of a war going on in the UK  ... Never the less
these dreadful Crimes are taking Place ..

and still foreign news like that is more, much more important than the gross abuses continuing not just in telford but in many towns across the uk

Your type are not interested in facts or debate - you follow the establishment line but think you have a balanced view which is actually the mainstream media tv news  and government approach.  You don't realise you helping with the cover up.

yeah its ok to talk about it but when someone comes on and starts throwing nazi slurs and personal stuff about my long term labour party membership, then twists my words, it seems as though certain people don't want a discussion and want to deflect elsewhere on to a debate about one's personality.  It is their tactic of course and helps collude with the narrative of keeping the scandal as quiet as possible   - it sides with the establishment view. You would think they would be outraged but then these young girls are hardly likely to side with the progressive view which seems to support those who want to censor it all.

Wouldn't be Saturday without a studyform meltdown. He was nearing it yesterday.

Cant wait for him tomorrow.

Where was the point he tried to turn child rapists into war casualties in Syria ? Then claimed he had lived there.

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Fortunately there are still a few people on here who can keep more of a balanced view. For me this just involves thinking of others in a far worse situation than ourselves and empathising a little... unlike so many of you constant politicos who never get involved in anything else...
speaking of which, no I T, I didn't, I couldn't give a feck about any videos posted on here for political mileage. Particularly by you.

^

This perfectly sums up where the radical left are today.

They are so convinced they are right they are unwilling to even look at the views of Lord Pearson.

Whereas I take a balanced view looking across different sources of information they refuse to even look at it.

Surely even the radical left can condemn what has happened to children across the country at the hands of these grooming gangs. Surely?

Or do they not even care about white lower class kids?

Radical left
You couldn't be more wrong.

When, I.S, did I claim to have lived in Syria, ffs? You didn't bother reading much of this did you... Or are you claiming to be "fishing" again?

I am not talking about 'grooming gangs' nor am I interested in joining the righteous vitriol you all seem to get stiffies over, I'm not claiming to have done anything, my fingers are not in my ears, the BBC is not to blame and I am not disputing that there have been terrible crimes committed all over the country, over many years, including in Telford.

Such is the desperation to find an opposing view, you lot would argue with your grandma's, or the local vicar if it held the gang together a bit.
I'm not melting down or ignoring anything. I don't need to prove anything to anyone, particularly a bunch of agenda driven keyboard warriors.

For the last time. THIS AND ONLY THIS IS WHAT I WAS RESPONDING TO

moisok  • March 17, 2018 5:42 PM GMT 

likewise the televisual experience - they just don't want to handle these news items as they are so grubby and it is only poor youngsters -of no importance  - sorry but that is the picture I get

but bomb some civilians in ghouta and they are all over it - why is there such bias - the telford ones are our own people??

-So you can stuff up your collective fat arses any further discussion about anything else, I wasn't interested in anything else yesterday, I'm not interested in anything else today, the rights and wrongs of Telford are not what I am typing about, they never were.

It seems that, through your mass of arguing with me, you all thing the bombing of civilians in Ghouta is OK.

Well I don't. Sorry if that offends you delicate sensibilities..... B of C's

I.T. I am not going to discuss the subject with you, you are a troll.
I am only talking about the ridiculous assertion that bombing civilians, anywhere, is not important enough to be newsworthy.

Why are you so interested in what I think?

lfc... how can you call anyone else an idiot?
Why don't you read the thread?

I.T. I have ONLY ever seen you post on political threads, always with the same style and same agenda. Always trying to draw people in.
That is the behaviour of a troll.

I was merely responding to a ridiculous post.
However bad Telford is, my view is that it doesn't equate to or take precedence over, the bombing, murder and gassing of 1000's of ordinary people, in ways people here can only have nightmares about.

My posting was purely to put that view more stringently and was directed at the fool who asserted the ridiculousness. The title of the thread is not a regulation by which I need to obey the rule of reply.

It is just the desire of most of you to find an opposing voice to your collective indignation which drags out the need to argue with me. I'm not arguing with the wrongness of grooming gangs anywhere, of course they're wrong. But belittling a war to suit a perpetual "anti-cult" drive IS something I will comment on.

Studyform,

There is space for both on the BBC headlines. It is not an either or situation.

To my mind the destruction of many thousands of lives in the UK in Telford should be at least as important as reporting from Syria.

its like this, the question is what gets reported and why it gets reported or not
It has nothing to do with the comparison between a war in the middle east and what is happening in England
I remember a number of years ago a small boy was trapped down a well in Italy , the nations news covered this story night and day until the young boy was saved
Quite right, it captured the nations hearts
At the same time thousands of other people young and old were dying all over the world
Not in Italy, and not this young boy thank god

The silence of the lamb kebabs.

Studyform,

Thank you for explaining that.

It seems we are in agreement that both of these horrific stories should be covered by the UK news.

Studyform seems not want  the disgraceful situation in Telford to be allowed to be commented on.
He seems to want to close down debate.  Any other person voicing an opinion has personal smears directed to them, loaded with innuendo.  Not that he is ever interested in debating the issue.  He sides with the establishment line on Telford and with the people who have tried to cover it up for 40 years. He turns away from the issue and makes it a personal attack on individuals accusing them of being trolls in the case of insider trader and is full of nasty innuendo regards my posts.
It is an attempt to obfuscate and divert away from what is going on in Telford.  I am surprised - I would have thought someone who is so balanced would be on the side of the young people and approve of a full scale examination of what has been going on.  Instead 'nazi', and other personal innuendoes are directed at posters to denigrate them.  What is it about the establishment cover up he likes - I simply do not understand it.  Does he actually approve of what has gone on amongst the authorities or is he hoping to deflect attention about a particular group/groups involved.  Just read what sweeping generalisations he has posted.

STUDYFORM    17 Mar 18 20:10 
Moisok, you consistently and obsessively ramble on and on about; the cult, the clan, people with beards, how you are a Labour member (yeah, right), how everyone is biased and how ALL "people of a certain religion" and how all the crimes and rapes and trouble we have is down to those of an eastern faith, blah blah blah, etc etc"

You're like a German activist in the 1930's

But, ffs, suggesting any "agenda" to broadcast the deaths and misery of ordinary people in a war is a part of a cover-up to deflect from how nasty those 'clanspeople' are, is even more ridiculous than your normal tosh.

You obviously have no concept of what it must be like to be an ordinary person living in eastern Ghouta right now. It isn't a competition with anywhere else that has strife and in and of itself is a crisis.

You have issues, moisok. You need to change the record, this one is scratched and worn out.

Lord Pearson is a shining light.

When asked what response he got in the House of Lords, one criticism was 'you're endangering the security of the the HoL'

So terrorism works to shut down the debate!

Study just wants to take the establishment line and uses personal insults and inuendo to try and deflect.  I wonder why he wants to do this - who is he trying to cover for?

You obviously don't want to acknowledge that THIS:
moisok  • March 17, 2018 5:42 PM GMT 

likewise the televisual experience - they just don't want to handle these news items as they are so grubby and it is only poor youngsters -of no importance  - sorry but that is the picture I get

but bomb some civilians in ghouta and they are all over it - why is there such bias - the telford ones are our own people??

was a stupid thing to write.

It is the ONLY THING I was ever talking about.
No deflection, no insults, no cover, no agenda. I didn't write it, YOU did.
everything that followed was ballocks.

so you deny this

STUDYFORM    17 Mar 18 20:10 
Moisok, you consistently and obsessively ramble on and on about; the cult, the clan, people with beards, how you are a Labour member (yeah, right), how everyone is biased and how ALL "people of a certain religion" and how all the crimes and rapes and trouble we have is down to those of an eastern faith, blah blah blah, etc etc"

You're like a German activist in the 1930's

But, ffs, suggesting any "agenda" to broadcast the deaths and misery of ordinary people in a war is a part of a cover-up to deflect from how nasty those 'clanspeople' are, is even more ridiculous than your normal tosh.

You obviously have no concept of what it must be like to be an ordinary person living in eastern Ghouta right now. It isn't a competition with anywhere else that has strife and in and of itself is a crisis.

You have issues, moisok. You need to change the record, this one is scratched and worn out.

and you deny this
#
and where you slip in this   - 'shows you to be a bit of a cnt' which is clearly in the text
two texts full of derogatory slurs 
I think it shows what a liar you are as it is clearly there


STUDYFORM    17 Mar 18 20:38 
I don't really give a shoite about the crap you write gernerally, but the comment about " bombing a few civilians in eastern Ghouta" being of no consequence compared to something which is, lets face it, on YOUR agenda, is BS of the highest order.

Fortunately there are still a few people on here who can keep more of a balanced view. For me this just involves thinking of others in a far worse situation than ourselves and empathising a little... unlike so many of you constant politicos who never get involved in anything else...
speaking of which, no I T, I didn't, I couldn't give a feck about any videos posted on here for political mileage. Particularly by you.

For a Labour party member, you post an awful lot of anti-Labour stuff, moisok. As for personal insults, a comment like the one you made about eastern Ghouta shows you to be a bit of a cnt IMHO. I'm not accusing you of being a Nazi, just saying how it must have been in an average German beirkeller in the 30's and how it is on this forum. There are parallels and you are busy propping up the bar.

fwiw, I answer plenty of points on here, but it won't change anything, because so many people are here for just the one reason.
(Insider Trader particularly), hence my reluctance to join in the impossible needless 'debates'.
They are all useless, because one of you will start posting some made-up garbage from a far-right site (which invariably claims not to be) and never actually debate anything.

If you had spent any of the last few weeks living in eastern Ghouta, you'd never have written such crass nonsense.

Telford remains a scandal and you want to side with the establishment in its cover up meanwhile denegrating at least two people on here who have raised issues about it.  Talk about missing the WHOLE point.  Bye bye.