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By:
Foinavon
When: 10 Oct 17 20:32
I've no idea, Kenny. It was bought from a wet fish stall at the Bullring Market. These fishmongers have a wide selection of unfilleted marine fish varieties which I hope were caught in the wild. Are they required to label farmed fish as such?
By:
The Leopard
When: 10 Oct 17 20:34
Wild....I bet he was livid !
By:
kenny mann
When: 10 Oct 17 20:39
Have a look here, I'm not sure.

https://www.ciwf.org.uk/your-food/fish/
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 10 Oct 17 20:46
Jesus Foinavon. You're no better than guys who buy jailbait pornos and then aren't sure whether the girls in them are under age.
By:
Foinavon
When: 10 Oct 17 20:49
Thanks, Kenny.
I copied this paragraph from that site which mentions the main varieties which are farmed. I choose not to eat any of those and they are the ones usually found filleted and pre-packed in supermarket freezers.

Farmed fish are reared in large numbers in crowded enclosures. These may be situated on land or in rivers, lakes or at sea. The vast majority of Atlantic salmon and rainbow trout consumed around the world are farmed intensively. Other species commonly farmed include carp, catfish, sea bass, and tilapia. 
By:
Foinavon
When: 10 Oct 17 20:57
You are right, shrewd-dude, I will have to take more care to ask about provenance before buying.
There's usually a throng of people around the stall so I usually stand back and send in Mrs F to elbow her way to the front. Grin
By:
kenny mann
When: 10 Oct 17 21:05
If I can help somebody as I pass along,then my living shall not be in vainHappy
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 20 Oct 17 15:36
no trips to the supermarket for you... you're banned
By:
kenny mann
When: 22 Oct 17 12:04
It is actually. He's converted more people to vegetarianism than most other people, if not all other people.


akabula
06 Oct 17 22:27
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You got proof of that Kenny?

Here you are mate.


Morrissey was and still is one of the faces of vegetarianism, all because of The Smiths' second album, fittingly-titled "Meat Is Murder," which contained a song of the same name. Morrissey probably single-handedly converted more people to vegetarianism than any other one person
. He was one of the people who brought this issue to the mainstream, and he wore this cause on his shoulder like no other. Many fans, after hearing that album, gave up meat for life and that's pretty amazing when you think about it. A pop-rock song about vegetarianism is something that no record company would ever push for, especially when the live version of the song was accompanied by a video backdrop of animals being slaughtered and abused.

All the venues at Morrissey shows have to go vegan or else he'll pull out of the show. In fact, there was one time where Morrissey was due to appear on a U.S. late-night talk show, but he pulled out after finding that one of the guests was going to be a cast member from the show "Duck Dynasty," a reality show about duck hunters. The animal rights organization, PETA, campaigns at all of Morrissey's shows because his fans are so dedicated to this cause, just like their idol. After The Smiths' song, "Meat Is Murder," Morrissey continued to address animal rights throughout his solo career as well with songs like "The Bullfighter Dies," which contains lyrics like "hooray, hooray / the bullfighter dies / and nobody cries."

So, not only did Morrissey attract an army of adoring fans from the '80s to the present, but he attracted fans of every demographic. Sure, Elvis and The Beatles had plenty of male, heterosexual fans, but those fans wanted to be like Elvis, Lennon or McCartney, none of them wanted to kiss or hug them like they did with Morrissey. Morrissey attracted fans who would do anything for him. They would (and still do) stage invade, they wore oversized glasses, they adopted his signature hairdo, they waved flowers at his shows, they despised the British royals like he did, they wrote letters to him, they got Morrissey tattoos and they kissed the ground he walked on. Sure, all those things are nothing new, but the fact that he converted so many people to vegetarianism is a pretty remarkable accomplishment, especially for an entertainer.


Full article
https://www.theodysseyonline.com/why-morrissey-fans-are-unlike-any-other-music-fans-2478671607.html

I know it says "probably" but that's all the proof I have.
By:
kenny mann
When: 22 Oct 17 12:08
btw my opening post which dicn't agree with the header was removed. Very strange indeed.
By:
akabula
When: 22 Oct 17 13:06
Yes I noticed that Kenny.
I still think that the stand he takes with his outrageous statements alienates more people than attracts.
The thread heading is in my opinion disgusting and I could never stand on the same platform as him.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 22 Oct 17 13:34
Here's one reason to give up eating meat.
And there's plenty more where that came from.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nujyif7MkMA

And consuming cows milk gets a pasting in the video below. The really interesting figures are included between 31:20 and 34:20, but the whole video is interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJvrlwnEqbs
By:
kenny mann
When: 22 Oct 17 13:40
Morrissey should have said this. " keeping intelligent, curious animals in horrific conditions for their entire life, before they meet their grisly end, is as bad as paedophilia."

And he would then be 100 percent correct.
By:
kenny mann
When: 22 Oct 17 13:41
Are they gruesome Dr?
By:
Platini
When: 22 Oct 17 13:44
Must admit I've never seen that Morrissey interview with Jonathan Ross. Always interesting to listen to Moz but jeez he makes it so obvious he'd rather be anywhere but sitting on that sofa Laugh.  That Youtube clip sent me down the usual rabbit hole and I ended up with this amazing clip from an 80s panel show called Eight Days a Week

Here we have a very young George Michael, with a young Morrissey and not-so-young Tony Blackburn critiquing various songs and films of the day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1ZMi3cPzUg

I think GM and Moz come out quite well here, but as for Tony Blackburn Scared
By:
kenny mann
When: 22 Oct 17 13:45
The Ross interview is hilarious.
By:
Desert Pilot
When: 22 Oct 17 15:01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXVtaYCDoLo
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 22 Oct 17 17:19
Not at all Kenny, they're medical videos produced by vegan doctors.
By:
kenny mann
When: 22 Oct 17 18:43
ok thanks Dr, unlike Desert Pilot's.
By:
akabula
When: 22 Oct 17 19:03
Good to see you back DrC.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 22 Oct 17 22:20
Thank you akabula.
By:
woodmanchester
When: 23 Oct 17 00:27
Tuna or pork? Whoops
By:
bodil
When: 23 Oct 17 00:46
The Leeds team around 1970 was one of the best I've seen. Recall one game against West Ham where they must have strung 50+ passes together without reply.  If they hadn't been managed by a total head-case, who knows how far they could have gone?  Though I suppose the head-case contributed to their success.  And I guess Johnny Foreigner bribing the refs in their European matches didn't help.
By:
woodmanchester
When: 23 Oct 17 00:47
Bodil, was this meant for the football forum?! Laugh
By:
Callisto-moon
When: 23 Oct 17 00:52
Not reading all this but what a pathetic comment.
I'm sure you would think differently had you been preyed upon.
By:
Callisto-moon
When: 23 Oct 17 00:53
Not reading all this but what a pathetic comment.
I'm sure you would think differently had you been preyed upon.
By:
woodmanchester
When: 23 Oct 17 00:55
Yes, stupid post deserves stupid response
By:
bodil
When: 23 Oct 17 00:56
See 5/10 start of thread wmc.
By:
woodmanchester
When: 23 Oct 17 00:58
Oops, just went off the headline
By:
akabula
When: 23 Oct 17 21:07
Callisto-moon
Not reading all this but what a pathetic comment.
I'm sure you would think differently had you been preyed upon.


Nobody on here said that CM. The OP (Kenny who's post was removed) was quoting Morrissey.
By:
Foinavon
When: 23 Oct 17 21:55
Aka is right. I didn't start this thread and the title is now out of it's original context.
By:
Foinavon
When: 23 Oct 17 21:58
Nor do I agree with it, I am not a vegetarian.
By:
akabula
When: 23 Oct 17 22:04
I am a vegetarian but I don't agree with either.
Fair to say no one on here does.
By:
kenny mann
When: 25 Dec 18 15:34
I didn't know you were a veggie aka', (or I'd forgotten)  Is that for health or compassion reasons?

Apologies Foinavon. ;-)
By:
Coachbuster
When: 25 Dec 18 17:22
that Meat is murder album   made a  lot of folk look up  but it was mainly celebrities and singers /rock stars that were veggie back then  ... veggies were thin on the ground  in 1985 .
By:
kenny mann
When: 25 Dec 18 17:39
Apparently,  Morrisseys MIM album converted more people to vegetarianism than anything before .
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 25 Dec 18 17:52
I never play the title track, it's sh1t.
By:
Coachbuster
When: 25 Dec 18 17:53
might well have done Kenny ...  few places really catered for veggies in the 80s and even 90s ..even today most veggie options in pubs etc are abysmal  i used to pop into places like holland and barrett which had a deli counter back then to get veggie pies etc while friends went in  BK and McDonalds etc   ... there was a veggie restaraunt  in my town which had survived since 1967 but was frequented by meat eaters.... the veggie food as i recall was really GOOD   ...finally closed it's doors in 2002  as the ladies who ran it decided to retire
By:
Coachbuster
When: 25 Dec 18 17:57
mousse...Meat is Murder was like a one off project album i think...it didn't feature any of his singles i remember ..How soon is now ? wasn't on there  yet it still managed #1 in the album charts
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 25 Dec 18 17:58
Aye, the first 9 tracks are brilliant.
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