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has this ever happened before?
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Facts: "May wants this ramped up as much as possible. It detracts public attention from the utter mess the Tories are making of this country."
You're a bit of an obsessive with total rubbish like this aren't you? Didn't you post on here that the controversy about Prince Harry's girlfriend getting hassled by the Media was a Tory consipiracy to "detract public attention from the utter mess the Tories are making of this country." I remember that post well as it disappeared a couple hours later, I didn't know we could delete posts, did you ask for it to be deleted as you realised even for you that was insane? Have you ever spoken to a professional about these sorts of thoughts - or does it just come with being a leftie? |
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'Refugee foster boy' arrested at Dover port, was first held 2 weeks ago but freed.
Stop it! Can't make this stuff up!!!! |
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"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."
Joseph Goebbels. |
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In the very early reporting of this incident one presenter said "we don't know if this is an accident or a terrorist attack by a FAR RIGHT group or whatever, we just don't know yet."
FFS. How much more of this nonsense do we have to endure before MSM start telling it like it is? |
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Not one of the Calais Children ,Shirley ??
Don Trumpton Correct Again  |
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I don't suppose Trump was just guessing with that tweet, I reckon MI6 know pretty much straight away, shared the info with the CIA, who told the president and, like he does, immediately blabbed it on Twitter. Perhaps not the most diplomatic thing to do, but it's the clowns who criticised him who now look like deluded fools once more.
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BBC news was trying desperately not to say anything about his possible origins. Ohh BBC you rogues :)
Torq, it's fine for Trump to take a hard line and I've not really a problem with that but leaking info about a hot ongoing investigation, we've already got issues with the US after the manchester leaks, they need to keep a lid on and start acting professionaly.. |
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Yes, agree it is undiplomatic and unprofessional. The trouble is that the agenda of the media has made me very cynical whether we will ever be told the truth about the perpetrators of these attacks if they can get away with not telling us, so when Trump forces their hand so to speak with tweets like that I do see some good in it.
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I think Trump is Just pointing out that we Keep letting Lunatics into the Country and that it will go one way , We wait
with baited Breath for this Chaps history, I would not bet Long odds he is one of the Calais Mob ,If he is the Luvvies need to be Lined up to explain their Luv for these characters ..  |
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I believe most of our television media is desperate for any of these atrocities to be the work of so called far right extremists (as shown in that quote above) and will only lay the blame on Islamic extremists when every other avenue has been explored - or Trump blabs the truth on Twitter.
Should anyone ever be criticised for telling the truth? Maybe if it puts somebody's life in jeopardy etc, but most time I would say not. |
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Why hasnt mental illness been mentioned yet, If by chance his earlier arrest showed no sign of mental illness ?
The narrative from the press is very different from previous attacks. I'm starting to think it was a staged event. |
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Somebody posted a link on here months ago to a report by some think tank or whatever that advocated the media downplaying any Islamic involvement in these atrocities - "seek alternative explanations" was the phrase that stuck in my mind. FFS!
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Trump's almost always correct(unlike other politicians). His execution though is always childish and not helpful.
It is common practice among law enforcement agencies that when an event like this occurs, the identity of the suspect and his arrest is kept under the lid. First, so his accomplices dont know if he got caught or not. Secondly, the couple of hours immediately after an arrest are the most valuable in term of further raids and intelligence gathering. The last thing they want is the bad guys to know that their partner got caught. They all switch to plan B immediately if they know the guy is in police custody. If I have the timeline correct, Trump tweeted two to three hours after the event? At that point, the public didn't even know who the suspect was, and trump was tweeting to the terrorists, look we know who he was and you know we know. Hide before we catch the rest of you. |
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Agree Torquemada. The lefties at say the BBC are the sort that are totally into "let's bring over 100,000 mentally damaged kids from jerhad central" so they will, I'm sure, if he turns out to be exactly what people are warning about, try to avoid covering this. I.e. he'll be a teenager not a refugee and just disturbed and not driven by... shall we say "anything in particular".
The way the C4/BBC distort and manipulate the news is in your face once you pay attention. |
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Were any of the Luvvies present at the Arrest to assure Fair Play ?
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FOSTER KID 'IS BUCKET BOMBER’Parsons Green terror suspect, 18, revealed as ‘refugee taken in by MBE foster couple’ – as neighbours claim ‘problematic’ teen was arrested TWO WEEKS ago.
YEP 1.01 landed |
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Yes, agree with that detraveller. The trouble is I now believe that our media will either hide the truth from us indefinitely - or downright lie - if they can possibly get away with it.
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LOL so after I state that it was deleted you then deny it knowing up front I have no proof. Do you think I won't see that little "fact" and then YOU demand anyone apologise to the likes of you? It's so totally you, as evidenced on this very thread.
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It is common practice among law enforcement agencies that when an event like this occurs, the identity of the suspect and his arrest is kept under the lid.
Not in the USA. Where police hold press conferences shortly after a crime of public interest. Generally, if they have a suspect, they will name him. Both to protect the public and help find him. |
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I can understand why they would do it in most cases, especially one off incidents like a kidnapping or an armed psycho on the lose. But if there was a gang that strikes every month, I would expect them to control the spread of news for intelligence gathering. US is a crazy place though when it comes to law enf.
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It's irrelevant really what the US or Tibetan procedure is in this, it's the UKs case and they have the responsibility to run the case as they see fit, it's not for the US to decide they know better and drop hints or info the UK hasn't. What IS an issue here is once the info is released, if our media deliberately handle it in a way according to their particular agenda - which they do. I keep bringing it up but the German New Year handling by the BBC should be taught in universities as an example of a media filtering and manipulating the facts to an agenda, while still "not telling lies".
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It's irrelevant really what the US or Tibetan procedure is in this, it's the UKs case and they have the responsibility to run the case as they see fit
Even in the pre-internet days, things were reported outside the UK, that weren't reported in the UK for legal or other reasons. It's naive to think everyone should conform to the UK's rules and practices. The issue here is that Trump may have released info that was communicated by the UK with an understanding of confidentiality. OTOH, the USA may have obtained this info by their own surveillance. Given how quickly he knew, I suspect the latter. |
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1st amendment to the US constitution;
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. |
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LOL whats your point :) If the 1st ammendment means they have free reign or even a compulsion to disclose any information any secret foreign body gives them, then all foreign bodies should stop dealing with them. That way madness lies!
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As I suspected the UK uses USA technology probably located in the USA, for facial recognition.
Optic Nerve worked by collecting the information from GCHQ's large network of Internet cable taps, feeding into systems provided by the United States' National Security Agency. NSA research was used to build the tool to isolate the webcam traffic. |
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not a single word in the sunday mail about this guy being arrested and then released but means nothing
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not a single word in the sunday mail about this guy being arrested and then released but means nothing
The key question here is, what exactly was he arrested for (and released) a couple of weeks back? Cycling the wrong way down a one-way street, carrying an offensive weapon or attempting to buy explosives? The implications are clearly different in each case. |
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arrested in the parson green area two weeks ago, Scotland yard declined to comment
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you cant blame these would be jihadi,s even before this attack on thurs,s news at 10 there was reports of Scottish footie hoolies,nazi salutes marching on the world, lock your days the Nazi,s are on the rampage blah,blah , maybe the jihadi,s feel left out, its beyond comprehension that any sane person can compare right wing marches with the 10,s of 1000,s been killed by Islamic terrorists,but the media just wont give up on it,the looney loner who klilled joe cox was a present from the gods for these leftie loonies
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Whilst it's bizarre for a President to be conducting affairs via Twatter, what he said in this instance was hardly earth shattering.
It was embarrassing to our security forces but nonetheless no names were revealed. I'm all for Trump and anyone else ramping up this current problem. Most of the establishment including media play it down, using their preset narrative: mental illness loner radicalised by the naughty internet nothing to do with Islam etc |
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Agree, Trumpy is embarrassing the ridiculous decisions by HM Gov, on our behalf, good for him.
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From wikipedia,
The term "Nazi" was in use before the rise of the NSDAP as a colloquial and derogatory word for a backwards farmer or peasant, characterizing an awkward and clumsy person. This was derived from Nazi a hypocorism of the German men's name Ignatz (itself a variation of the men's name Ignatius) – Ignatz being a common name at the time in Bavaria, the area from which the NSDAP emerged.[5][6] In the 1920s, political opponents of the NSDAP in the German labour movement seized on this and – using the earlier abbreviated term "Sozi" for Sozialist (English: Socialist) as an example[7] – shortened the first part of the party's name, [Na]tionalso[zi]alistische, to the dismissive "Nazi", in order to associate them with the derogatory use of the term mentioned above. Nazi was a term used by urban leftists to belittle non-urbanites who opposed them. Not much has changed. |
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I don't think the Sunbury neighbours will be keen on the old MBE couple taking in more potential bombers. When you're old it's hard work searching all over the house for guns and explosives.
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when its hidden in the garden
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Careful, pxb. You've ended up arguing that it was inaccurate and condescending to call a follower of Adolf Hitler backwards, awkward or clumsy.
Considering what they were getting up to then and later, it's a pretty mild rebuke imo. |
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Petraco, if you have googled that info, you are probably on a watch list.
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I don't mind people who are, in the terms we came to understand, nazis, being called nazis ...
What I dislike is anyone who the left can't intellectually argue with (so most people really) being called "Nazis" "Fascists" "Racists" etc.. In my life I've seen FAR more opression of the people and even thought policing by the left, and it's only accelerating, .... |