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2000 yrs ago WE was told disasters, wars & famines (why are you shocked by recent events)
2000 yrs ago WE was told disasters, wars & famines (why are you shocked by recent events)
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taken from heavenly sign.
it's not just the sign it's quite a lot of stuff converging in 2017-18. if you miss the bus, a minibus comes for stragglers. if you miss that you are stranded forever. |
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Theres a word for finding patterns in things, cant recall it off the top of my head but its a human traight, like seeing faces in things.
Have you never seen the sequence of inponderables rlating to the facts of assasinated American Presidents? Some really odd s hit there, so whats that meant to mean? |
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it's not patterns - it's history.
ISRAEL exists after 1,877 years, no nation has reconstituted itself after that length of time? why now? when 400 years ago it was talked about by Pascal and Newton? why not a hundred years ago? 1947/48 + 70 = jesus. it's lined up with the 6000 year plan. it couldn't happen two hundred years in the past, or in the future. the timing is spot on. this generation shall not pass. you are willfully blind and it gets you the booby prize. a guy shows up at your door with a briefcase full of money and you turn him away because you are doubtful it's your inheritance. You never knew God so why listen to the conman at your door. You've lost an unimaginable blessing and accepted destruction. |
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2 Timothy 3
But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God — having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people. They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over gullible women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth. Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these teachers oppose the truth. They are men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected. But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone. |
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If I lied to you would that make you feel better?
If I said yes it means something to me am I tricking god or myself? Because I could pretend and offer hollow gesture to God Im a hedged bet saving my skin. That doesnt seem very sincere does it? Like I have told you before, we are shaped by nature of what we are and by nurture of how the environment impacted on us. You can not fake love, and love only comes from what you know, not from what you dont. |
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I could tell you somebody will trip over a log and bang their head, and that they will be effected by politics and selfishness.
That many will be just a couple of numbers away from winning the lottery, and that they will wonder what they might have done differently to have chosen the 'right numbers'. Its all ambivilent. Seeing jesus in toast. |
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there's a difference between making a stencil for toast and making Israel a nation
to fit a time scale. one requires half an hour the other 1877 years. your sense of scale is off. If you lose your faith because of a small betrayal like a slice of toast. then you are very shallow. there are would be demons pretending to be pastors. but I understand they do not represent Jesus God or the Bible. you tack on as much crap as you need to keep your nihilism intact. Satan has made men do terrible things in the name of God. You attribute it all to God. you are Satan's patsy. Jesus said - it is done, on the cross. that was his job. the sacrifice to give creation redemption. the point of the universe. It's not to collect crap to fill your house. you continue to believe in nothing and you get nothing. |
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We all go back to nothing, it is so.
Satan didnt invent evil, God did by all accounts. You said yourself God wanted man to fail to create his narrative. Thats not the work of an onimpotence, setting up fallible man to fit a plan, thats the invention of a human. Wtf are you rattling on about toast for, the reference was that people see jesus' image in toast...and ironically thats the only time they will see, because by the greatness of your belief system, this all important life message, isnt carried by noble or honest creations....its carried by fallible humans....just as the prostitutes were relied upon as witness that jesus was resurected. It tickles me to think God had this magnificent plan, but hired humans as it's marketeers and left ambiguity as its only trace. Nice work. |
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dustybin, you lost me on the toast argument.
must do better. |
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That people see what they want to see.
Whether it be the significance of a coincidence or a pattern in toast. Is Jesus in the toast, or is it simply that people have been hard wired into wanting to see it? Nobody has ever seen Jesus and yet his image seen in toast, tea towels, clouds etc is a comparison to an image made originally by man from crucifix, drawings etc. |
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Why don't people say they've seen Robert Powel?
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If you want a Lowest common denominator God Dustybin, it's in your mind.
You are limiting him by your own experiences. You mentioned films,toast and your teacher? How very narrow in range is God if he is limited to such an extent. He is outside this universe the bible clearly says this. no other God is outside creation. All the made up BS gods are in the heavens, the stars. The Jewish god is outside of time and space. It says it many times. i've posted before on this. quotes from the bible. He's also the oldest belief for God - this being 5777 on the Jewish calendar. God created Satan and in Ezekiel he describes how he went bad. Satan has free choice too and he chose to be what he is, God on earth. He rules here. There is no danger to us from Satan. He can only kill you. You are limited in your mind to life here on earth. everyone dies and some of us will find our way back to God. You've chosen double death. the death of the body and the soul. smart move. A child with cancer will die, God will judge a child and see that there was no evil there. He also will raise the dead and he will rule in his millennium kingdom on earth for 1000 years to sort out the people left over. a seven thousand year plan. FREE CHOICE allows evil as a choice. This life is not everything and many see that as the truth. They have died to bring the word to the world. He has refined us like Gold and silver and you dustybin are rusty iron. You refuse knowledge of God because you are of the world, satan's world. He has you captive and you don't even know it. He does not care for humanity, he sees himself as a god and his pride is greater than any atheists. All he wants is his time as world ruler, which he gets, but only for a few years. He rules over all you twits that chose the double death. |
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Wrong.
Christianity says Jesus is the ONLY way. So a child's heart is irrelevant if death comes before acceptance but after birth (and automatic original sin) The option of evil that you refer can be traced back to the abandonment of God by design (or rather deferred entrapment if you prefer based on the act of others in original sin, yet the individual judged as a separate entity) and means that suffering is assured through life while happiness isn't. We will all suffer in this life, and the journey towards relief generally impacts on others negatively. Just as through all nature, one life thrives off the suffering of another. You say I experience God only in film etc and this is true, because the almighty has tricked all with illusive nature and made unconscionable riddles that, if can't be accessed, can't be accessed by design. Blaming the person for not seeing is akin to blaming the disabled for the in ability to walk. All of this isn't against the concept of God, it's against the interpretation by man. |
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* an element of creation rather than 'God'
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no - those that accept Christ do dot come under judgment.
those that are ignorant or willfully avoid God will be judged. God is Good so he sees all your sins. Knows what is in your heart. In the millenium Kingdom God is on King David's throne. He is ruling over someone for 1000 years? Perhaps those undecided, the ignorance of Jesus etc. A second cut - because after the thousand years there are still some people who chose evil. Pride and arrogance is prevalent still. Jesus' kingdom is between the 6th and 7th millenium. then the earth is retired - man is gone from the earth. a new heaven and a new earth is created. |
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Ultimately God created us all and he decides what happens to each of us.
He's top honcho. The creation doesn't get a defence. There are no law courts to debate your life in front of God. No hoodwinking the judge. Because God knows us all backwards. |
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Nobody 'chooses evil' by christianity's meaning of the word
Since 'Evil' means 'the absence of God' If God is illusive to the individual or comes in a contrived riddle then that isn't by the design of the human. Blind faith always results in abuse at the hands of other humans. If I can choose my own sacrifice in preference to picking to play in a game engineered to inflict suffering on others, then my heart will stand unto scrutiny. |
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each man to his own way... God said it in the quote i gave before.
God is supremely good nothing can stand before him with sin. Moses was on the mountain and it took its toll on him. You are refusing to get rid of corruption. effectively hanging onto your sins. All your good deeds are like filthy rags. Nothing I do gets me into heaven except accepting Christ's action on the cross. you cannot bribe your way into God's presence. Blind faith was never an instruction given to the apostles by Jesus. He told them to buy a sword for personal defence. He said if the message was not received to move on. he did not advocate taking abuse. Turn the other cheek, yes. those that live by the sword die by the sword. Self justification is pride in another form. God's grace is a gift. If you go into a work place and do not give the boss of the work place respect and try to run the work place yourself, you'll be out on your ear soon enough. the boss will say - who do you think you are? God's not interested in a suggestion box, it's his way or the highway. you can mumble about equality and fairness and a list of PC rights? It's not up to us. There is one Boss. One God. who made you. the pot does not tell the potter what to do. |
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Nothing I do gets me into heaven except accepting Christ's action on the cross.
you cannot bribe your way into God's presence. So what was meant by the child's heart? The child is born kicking and screaming forced into what you imply is a godless earth, born into and containing the sins of its father an evil world in which you attest has been abandoned by God,and with no conscience of accepting Jesus. So how can its heart be its saving grace? Blind faith was meant as the absence to individuals of testonomy of the proof of the story they are told by mans mouth of Jesus, when they themselves have to self determine their own views based on evidence, or else they get sold down the river in life by a manipulative godless collective acting on their own advantage over others. |
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God the father and Jesus is in heaven, but at Pentecost(shavot)after
Jesus ascended he left the comforter, the holy spirit with the apostles. the holy spirit is God, part of the Trinity. When you accept Jesus as your saviour the spirit in dwells and teaches the saved about Jesus and God. He is the author of the bible. Through him the prophets wrote the scriptures. Because he is still here in the people who believe(the church) he has resisted Satan. Holding him back. He is the restrainer. Only when he departs this year, does it let Satan back in. Satan has tried with many dictators to conquer all the world, but each time good men with spirit has fought back. But now the light of the world is departing, withdrawing, God's word has reached all the world. the grace covenant is ending. All that have accepted grace from the spirit have to depart(rapture). As the light departs, men will start to unravel. rage and anger is in ascendancy. More crime, more violence. Once the rapture happens, the world will quickly tip into Satan's court. He enforces the NEW covenant. the troubles of Jacob. the tribulation. the earth is not Godless. unless you are an atheist. |
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"Scientific beliefs are supported by evidence and they get results. Myths and faiths are not and do not."
Richard Dawkins, River Out of Eden: A Darwinian View of Life. |
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Professor Dawkins is on camera giving a lecture to the enlightened,
on youtube. He tells the crowd about Multiverse theory and quotes Physicist Steven Weinberg - He then trots along to talk to Steve, who being a proper atheist tells him he's up a tree. There is no multiverse, that it's freakin impossible. That nobody in Physics has even attempted to put forward this BS. It's a 10^120 possibility. Dawkins can be seen rolling his eyes upward to the ceiling?(what's up there mr Dawkins?)Steve just shafted his atheist buddy. Real science is different to Pseudo Science which does not deal with the truth. So return to the original lecture, in the hall with the cheering atheists and repeat the lies to them. First you misrepresented the work of Steven Weinberg. Secondly you are spewing more deceits to the deceived already. In a Hawaiian shirt too? where was Magnum to collar you and throw ya in the slammer? (Richard Dawkins and Steven Weinberg Discuss Science and Religion for a whole hour) will Dustybin watch a full hour of atheists talking to each other? when he found it hard going to watch ten minutes of Chuck missler? the answer is probably yes. Atheists after all, are sane? |
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read about quantum theory, zorro. The multiverse theory seems to fit as a possible consequence of quantum entanglement. The evidence is building up. Contrast that with the intellectual sterility of bronze age religion.
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GeEz mr Einstein, you might have got it wrong...
THE GIST CERN Scientists say they have clocked subatomic particles that travel faster than light. Researchers called on physicists around the world to scrutinize the data. Albert Einstein's Theory of Relativity would have to be revisited if the findings hold true. Physicists reported Thursday that sub-atomic particles called neutrinos can travel faster than light, a finding that - if verified - would be inconsistent with Einstein's theory of relativity. In experiments conducted between the European Centre for Nuclear Research (CERN) in Switzerland and a laboratory in Italy, the tiny particles were clocked at 300,006 kilometres per second, slightly faster than the speed of light, the researchers said. NEWS: Gravity Probe B Says Einstein Was Right, Again "This result comes as a complete surprise," said physicist Antonio Ereditato, spokesman for the experiment, known as OPERA. "We wanted to measure the speed of neutrinos, but we didn't expect to find anything special." Scientists spent nearly six months "checking, testing, controlling and rechecking everything" before making an announcement, he said. Researchers involved in the experiments were cautious in describing its implications, and called on physicists around the world to scrutinize their data, to be made available online overnight. But the findings, they said, could potentially reshape our understanding of the physical world. "If this measurement is confirmed, it might change our view of physics," said CERN research director Sergio Bertolucci, a view echoed by several independent physicists contacted by AFP. In the experiments, scientists blasted a laser-like beam producing billions upon billions of neutrinos from CERN, which straddles the French-Swiss border in Geneva, to the Gran Sasso Laboratory 730 kilometres (453 miles) away in Italy. Neutrinos are electrically neutral particles so small that only recently were they found to have mass. "The neutrinos arrived 60 nanoseconds earlier that the 2.3 milliseconds taken by light," Ereditato told AFP. Under Albert Einstein's theory of Special Relativity, however, a physical object cannot travel faster than the speed of light in a vacuum. |
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They stopped measuring the speed of light in 1972, they set it as a constant.
It's used in metrics as a measuring stick. A lot of physicists want it remeasured again as they believe it's slowing down. |
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I remember that particular experiment well as it caused a sensation at the time, however the findings were subsequently shown to be wrong due to errors in the measurement of time. Naturally your disreputable cretinist website won't tell you that. Lies by omission.
Einstein was wrong with his "God doesn't play dice" statement but it fitted nicely with his block universe theory. |
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That was to your 21:37 post
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* 21:34 post
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the SuZy bets was paid out - i posted this before, Multiverse theory is dead.
officially. They were so disappointed with the results from Cern that they have already started plans for a new Cern. This destroyed M theory which the 'smartest man in the world' was working on for a decade. Super Symmetry (SuSy bet) was paid out. No multiverse. |
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the creationist website? assuming a lot there...
http://www.eriskayconnection.com/en/home/65-the-speed-of-light.html https://www.seeker.com/faster-than-light-particles-question-einsteins-theory-1765438261.html |
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Multiverse theory is not dead.
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June 4th 2017 research at Cern.
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That stuff about faster than light particles is out of date as I've already explained.
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https://www.yaabot.com/30872/this-energy-beam-may-be-travelling-faster-than-light/
Oh deary mee - your to be found up a tree. five times the speed of light - It's all just a wet dream now. |
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This Energy Beam may be travelling faster than Light
Maithili Dhule June 2, 2017 NEW SCIENTIST - NEW SCIENTIST - NEW SCIENTIST (source) |
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oh shyte - It's in VIRGO.... haha.
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The M87 is not exactly your next door neighbour. In fact, according to Newscientist, it is tens of millions of light years away. The M87 is a supergiant elliptical galaxy located in the Virgo cluster. It was believed to have been formed by the merging of two galaxies in that cluster. At the heart of the M87 galaxy is a black hole having a mass of about 3.5 billion Suns. A disk forming a sort of funnel surrounds it, and a jet of plasma, shaped like a thin beam, shoots out from the core. This jet stream that is emitted measures almost 6,000 light years across. (A quick refresher- one light year is equal to about 6 trillion miles, that is, about 9.5 trillion km!)
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This is the latest article I can find on parallel universes which states the opposite of what you are saying.
https://eprnews.com/new-suzy-experiment-blows-away-cerns-mir-faizal-on-parallel-universes-132673/ |