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By:
zorrostrikes
When: 20 Jun 17 22:25
How about a pipe in all flats that if it gets burnt melts and lets the water flood the flat. A weak spot in the pipes. a natural sprinkler.
By:
ooO{Alpha Centauri}Ooo
When: 20 Jun 17 22:49
The more I read about the regulations regarding the material used, the more it seems that the muddying of the waters has begun and the less likely anyone will be held responsible.

However, a panel of fire safety experts speaking at this week's FIREX exhibition in London said it is impossible to say whether the cladding is banned or not.

I've never heard anything so ridiculous, peoples lives are in these experts hands.

"It's down to the individual designer's specifier and or specialist installer - there is no straight answer."

Passing the buck already?  There are stringent regulations set down by the coucil in the buildings contracts for a start, they are responsible for specifying the correct materials that meet regulations, the residents were told it would be fire retardant, the planners then changed the material without informing them.  The installer can't just use any material they see fit.

It's going to be a lessons will be learnt outcome 1.01.
By:
casemoney
When: 21 Jun 17 00:10
searching the White City tower block

Do any of these People actually Know where White City is ??

It is nowhere near Grenfell Tower
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 21 Jun 17 00:28
yeah, white city is different borough and different postcode, probably just looked at a map and gone with nearest largest text.
By:
Coachbuster
When: 21 Jun 17 01:01
i must admit thinking  White city myself, only because the maps  had me believing that - there's a message there =  don't read all you believe .

It's also no where near Chelsea or Kens lol .

Is it Holland Park ?  Notting Hill ? Latimer ? Acton ?    i'm as confused as the next man .
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 21 Jun 17 04:56
White City is the other side of the road! Well sort of, the Westfield side. Ladbroke Grove falls under K&C. It is the grubbier part of the Borough. Notting Hill was also regarded as grubby prior to the Huge Grant film. Ladbroke Grove is still expensive. The Holland Park side is still des res. There was a programme on a few months ago highlighting the divide in the street where the more affluent and less affluent lived. Still a nice part of London for me although I have to say I tend to frequent the more affluent end because of geography.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 21 Jun 17 05:23
they used the napalm cladding in the end. they signed off on fire retardant.
but installed retarded fire bomb variety.

they used polystyrene panels in my flat? i'm pretty sure that stuff burns well.
then they had a cavity they filled with polystyrene pellets? there are still air
voids as the rain causes problems with a neighbors flat.

basically the entire design is shoddy in these quick build module houses.
they were built in the sixties as a quick short term solution of
replacing slums. they should be phased out.
By:
terry mccann
When: 21 Jun 17 07:09
why do they still say 79 dead when the locals know its a much higher total,why is it being downplayed? answers on a postcard.
By:
ufcdan
When: 21 Jun 17 09:23
Still a nice part of London for me although I have to say I tend to frequent the more affluent end because of geography.



What did you get WD a B+ ?
By:
anxious
When: 21 Jun 17 09:44
- tend to frequent the affluent because of geography - no Dan more likely to frequent because you are s Spiv Fan Crazy
By:
terry mccann
When: 21 Jun 17 09:47
b4 you boys show off to much, ashworth mansions,elgin ave,maida vale w.9
do you know of it?Tongue Out
By:
ufcdan
When: 21 Jun 17 09:48
Read the post ! Mind you I do live in the poshest part of town Cool
By:
terry mccann
When: 21 Jun 17 10:22
flat next door went for 2.3 proper large
By:
anxious
When: 21 Jun 17 10:26
2.3 million ?
By:
terry mccann
When: 21 Jun 17 10:29
indeedGrin
By:
anxious
When: 21 Jun 17 10:33
Good grief Shocked
By:
terry mccann
When: 21 Jun 17 10:37
nice view of Paddington rec thoughWink
By:
anxious
When: 21 Jun 17 10:39
A Tale of Two Cities
By:
terry mccann
When: 21 Jun 17 10:40
its mental m8
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 21 Jun 17 10:53
I'm assuming this building has to be demolished once all of the bodies have been recovered ? heard 1 resident say he was told he could move back in?

Then again, if someone has a 2.3 million pound home in the lower/less damaged floors?
By:
trilby22
When: 21 Jun 17 13:39
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/sixtyeight-flats-in-2bn-luxury-block-to-be-given-to-families-whose-lives-were-devastated-in-grenfell-a3569876.html#gallery
By:
Injera
When: 21 Jun 17 17:32
Will they pay rent trilby???
By:
saddo
When: 21 Jun 17 17:35
Did they before?
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 21 Jun 17 18:00
The Home Office and police have made a promise of amnesty to illegal migrants who resided in the Grenfell Tower if they come forward to police. Many residents may also be given luxury flats  – whilst 7,000 UK veterans remain homeless.
The pledge of amnesty was made by the Home Office this week as many have expressed concern that illegal migrants living in the tower block may be afraid to come forward to authorities fearing potential deportation.

A Home Office spokesman said: “We will not use this tragic incident as a reason to carry out immigration checks on those involved and those providing information,” The Times reports.
By:
Injera
When: 21 Jun 17 18:17
A Home Office spokesman said: “We will not use this tragic incident as a reason to carry out immigration checks on those involved and those providing information,” The Times reports.

Why the hell not?!!!

When will this PC madness end? Just because you escaped a horrid fire why should you get permanent residency and obviously housing benefit for the forseeable future??
By:
saddo
When: 21 Jun 17 18:24
Encouraging illegals immigrants to sue us for millions, you couldn't make it up.
By:
moisok
When: 21 Jun 17 18:26
what are the home office implying

and is this why locals think the death toll is 150 (lily allen et al)

because the know you know nudge nudge
By:
moisok
When: 21 Jun 17 18:27
they   know you know
By:
saddo
When: 21 Jun 17 18:29
Turn a blind eye to illegals and fund a life in central London for em. Laugh
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 21 Jun 17 18:37
ufcdan
21 Jun 17 09:23

Still a nice part of London for me although I have to say I tend to frequent the more affluent end because of geography.



What did you get WD a B+ ?


I can't lie Dan,

Ashley I got an A for History and Geography! They didn't have A* back in the bayCool
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 21 Jun 17 18:41


terry mccann
21 Jun 17 09:47

b4 you boys show off to much, ashworth mansions,elgin ave,maida vale w.9
do you know of it?
Tongue Out

I had a Roast Beef dinner ( Lunch ashley ) in the Trustcott Arms. Got my mate to pay £28 each! Know what I mean!

I frequent Paddington Rec on Saturdays Terry and then go to The Bowls or Tennis Club afterwards. London Pride and Sky Sports!
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 21 Jun 17 18:42
Lucky saddo doesn't live in Iraq or Syria. He looks a prime candidate to be a member of Is Is!
By:
terry mccann
When: 21 Jun 17 23:26
ive seen them come and go re Paddington rec, from teddy boys to rich russians
By:
ooO{Alpha Centauri}Ooo
When: 22 Jun 17 05:04
Kensington and Chelsea council chief executive quits (was pushed rather by Javid)  More will probably go, will this mean they couldn't be prosecuted?
By:
potlis
When: 22 Jun 17 08:08
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/sixtyeight-flats-in-2bn-luxury-block-to-be-given-to-families-whose-lives-were-devastated-in-grenfell-a3569876.html#gallery

Todays Londoners love their diversity so this is great news for those who have paid upwards of 2 million for a place in that development, can get up close and personal now.

Local authority tenants involved in any future fires (happens weekly) will rightly ask "where's mine" anything else would be discriminatory.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 23 Jun 17 13:02
confirmed the fire was started due to a faulty Hotpoint fridge freezer
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 23 Jun 17 13:49
I predict a fair bit of sub-letting will be going on.
By:
casemoney
When: 23 Jun 17 13:53
Todays Londoners love their diversity so this is great news for those who have paid upwards of 2 million for a place in that development, can get up close and personal now.

Pmsfl Laugh The Luvvies will be delighted Laugh
By:
casemoney
When: 23 Jun 17 13:54
LOL good Point Jack    .Another Point will be the Housing Benefit cap  how will the People be able to Pay their Rent ??
By:
casemoney
When: 23 Jun 17 13:57
penthouses go for up to £13 million
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