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I really don't understand it.
It is clearly a policy and there must be a reason, is it fear of the spread of radicalisation?
It's not working.
It is clearly a policy and there must be a reason, is it fear of the spread of radicalisation?
It's not working.
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bottle jobs perhaps ?
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many in the government and establishment are not British, or English.
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many hate Britain and would be happy to destroy it.
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to create a peaceful democratic country is a difficult thing.
they seem to think it is easy, I don`t know why. |
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This, and other governments have long favoured Muslims over any other religious group. The radicals have used this situation to establish themselves among the formerly peaceful muslims where they can now hide, kill and preach hate to the next generation.
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It is strange that humanists/atheists who would ( rightly ) view evangelical Christians with suspicion are so very tolerant of some strands in Islam,which clearly are still in The Middle Ages.
I do think though that MOST Muslims like MOST Christians do not pose any sort of danger. |
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They pose a danger if they are hiding the terrorists. There are three or four million of em here, if they can't root out the "handful" of wrong uns it's because they lack the will.
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I blame the life of brian
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I'm not sure that " the community " invariably keeps quiet saddo. Where do you think the security forces get their info from ? For rather obvious reasons Muslims who are helping expose the fanatics do not want their names blazed all over the media.
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''every defeat of the British state is a victory for all of us''
“part and parcel of living in a big city” etc etc... Plenty of people in power and/or positions of ''influence'' ...HATE Britain. |
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It cannot rumble on for decades SS. They need to choose to sort it out in a concerted manner, or we may possibly face racial civil war.
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funny how sky news has more info on the guy than the gov
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It also applies to some on here but also a remarkable number of the population. You are going to have to go a long way to change views.
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Ultimately I agree saddo that the most likely way of putting a stop to this is if Muslims play the major part. That's not going to happen if we demonise them all. I suspect most of us are old enough to remember the IRA bombings. There was a slight tendency to condemn all Irish Catholics but that wasn't widespread. If it had been I imagine there would have been little chance of peace.
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I am not demonising them ss, I am suggesting they get their shlt together and sort out their own mess before it goes too far.
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many in the government and establishment are not British, or English.
Exactly, the same goes for many radio and television presenters. And journalist. They set an example that the rest of the community are supposed to follow. They're mainly suckers and apologists. And ultimately to blame for the control of people through PC, and the go-softly approach that encourages radicals and radicalism. So instead of nipping it in the bud it is allowed to thrive. |
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I didn't specifically mean you saddo.
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I know that ss. A major factor in this is positive discrimination. Like all forms of discrimination, it causes division.
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why is there peace in N. Ireland ? It has nothing to do with the people in N. Ireland or any change in the views of people in N. Ireland , those remain exactly the same.
there is no difference in that country between before the troubles and now Nothing has changed , nobody has changed, it has nothing to do with not demonising communities. |
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radical muslim is individuals , impossible to have talks
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You see before the troubles the people in n Ireland were part of the most lucky and free and prosperous and democratic countries that had ever existed in the worlds history, anywhere and at any time.
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Sorry lfc but you are making no sense. Clearly things HAVE changed in N Ireland,or are you much younger than I thought ?
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I was so shocked at the thought my finger twitched.
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the aims remain exactly the same, the IRA was defeated not by being nice to them, or anyone in N. Ireland, they stopped because they knew they had been defeated and many of its major people were in the verge of being arrested , and they had been infiltrated from within
Another factor that is forgotten that just before the peace the loyalist terrorists were on the way to becoming even more ruthless and bloodthirsty , even the IRA leadership was getting the collywobbles about this. |
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I think you missed my point. IF we had said ALL Irish RCs are evil there would have been no peace whatever the IRA leadership thought as they would just have been overthrown by younger radicalised RCs.
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yes salmon I am old enough to remember :)
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salmon I don't believe there is anyone in this beautiful country, not one person who thinks that way
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There were a few but my whole point is most didn't. The fanatics are of course out to radicalise as many Muslims as possible. If we treat them all as hate figures they will succeed.
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Why do the government and establishment pander to radical Islam?
Stop right there and think about that? Didn't Western leader know what they were importing? I'm sure they did? Examine the cheering on of America to start Middle Eastern wars, thus creating millions of refugees, migrants and then the willingness of the EU to accept these people so readily in any numbers. Is this part of somebody's plan to destroy the West? Is there an enemy within to ensure that it works? Because if there is, it's working out perfectly. |
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its not the government or the military we have to fear, its the people
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Its your choice what you fear. You can either fear the hundreds of thousands who just arrived to your continent or you can fear the handful that invited them or hapily allowed them in.
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well if the government tries to help people and they don't know how to behave and say thankyou I blame the people themselves
I`m like that. |
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ok
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thankyou
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detraveller and Dr C are correct.
Islam is the weapon of choice at present. The goal? Smash Christendom and especially white Christendom. In my view it's demonic. The liberals are mere puppets. For thousands of years either the Jews of the Chistians have faced extinction. The Islamification of Europe will achieve the latter if not both. The hypocricy of the Left's support of Islam is explained by 'the enemy (Islam) of my enemy (Christendom) is my friend'. |
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there`s your answer, its demonic.
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is that merkel or Trump, or Obama, or May, I don`t know
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As I say they're mere puppets in a larger game.
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here we go
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