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Thank you Shino. You should post more Sir..
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Dave, the report came from the council of Europe, or the European Commission, the quote from pokerminster is from that report. That is the organisation that produced the report , addressed to everyone within the EU including Britain. if this report was restricted to Britain simply because it was a British university that drew it up us misleading by you this policy if it is seen to apply to Britain would be likely to apply to the rest of Europe
Because the study was done on Teesside is immaterial Pokermonster quoted fairly and accurately on what was said in this report, that is the important thing. Nothing pokermonster said changes anything within that report so stop trying to through up dust . |
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The Council of Europe has nothing to do with the European Union or its Commission. As the report has nothing to do with the EU, how could it possibly be "addressed to everyone within the EU including Britain"?
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Well, are members of the council of Europe European countries? Is the EU made up of European countries,is Britain a European country? I don't know.
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they are protected by something so powerful, more powerful than the nuclear deterrent - the cancer that is political correctness
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No let's just try and confuse and mix it all up to deflect away from the problem. It is as if they want nothing done - just as mr kahn says, get used to it.
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Is teeside university a European university? I don't know
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Does teeside university get grants from Europe, di members of staff owe their jobs to Europe, do those involved in drawing up this report do so as part of a process to find the truth or is it a process to find an answer acceptable to the EU and those that fund them?
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who could disagree with that
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The ULC survey and report was the result of EU funding - the uni gets over 70 million euro funding from eu per year and the report was led by two eu enthusiasts from germany and italy.
That report SET OUT to PROVE that migration benefited the UK. Well it would wouldn't it. |
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Ah, thankyou natb. dave1357 never mentioned that, I don't know why.
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so pokermonster did misquote it
cheers lads |
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not enough smileys to be taken as a serious post
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DAVE SAID I FIND IT A LAUGHING MATTER
![]() ![]() ![]() The Reason I posted what I did ,was that I would not be in the Least bit Surprised if Merkel Made that Statement .... Of course I have Sympathy for those Injured or Killed , But unfortunately the World Appears to be Awash with Mad Axe Men these Days ,we need to get used to it. |
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Lets not Forget HGV Road Rage Mob (more people with Mental Illness ... )
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Torquemada • March 11, 2017 1:23 PM GMT
He falsely claims PM misquoted something and then has the front to call PM a liar! Priceless, you couldn't make it up You aren't the brightest scaffolder are you? Pokermonster • March 10, 2017 11:50 PM GMT Lest we forget those recommendations from the European Commission: "Where the media stress the muslim background of perpetrators of terrorist acts, and devote significant coverage to it, the violent backlash against muslims is likely to be greater than in cases where the perpetrators' motivation is downplayed or rejected in favour of alternative explanations." 1) pokermonster amended a sentence from a report by removing the first part of the sentence, it was not recommendation. 2) in any case the report wasn't anything to do with the EU but instead the Council of Europe So basically complete mis-attribution. mobo then says that I omitted to say something that appears to be completely unrelated to Pokermonster's blatant untruths. The ULC (University College London???)blah blah blah |
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It looks like Dave and Donny like to twist other people's words to suit themselves Casemoney. They will tell you they know best. What you actually wrote might not be what you meant, you see. Don't worry though mate, Dave and Donny will misinterpret your words for you and everybody else until they are in a form they can get offended by!
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Torquemada • March 11, 2017 1:51 PM GMT
It looks like Dave and Donny like to twist other people's words to suit themselves Casemoney. I think you will find that Pokermonster is the master practitioner of that art in this thread. Your words never require twisting as they are usually basic insults without any intellectual substance. |
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No, I'm not the brightest scaffolder Dave, but I did look up that quote and found it was in a report by The European Commission of Racial Intolerance. That sure sounds like a "European Commission" to me. Yes, pokermonster didn't put in the bit about referencing a study from a university but so what? You falsely call him a liar, you falsely say he misquoted. Is it any wonder he retaliated and made you look like a fool? It seems to me that you are far more concerned with pokermonster than the actual issue of suggesting the media downplay Muslim terrorist attack by using "alternative explanations" which sound like LIES to me.
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Thanks for bringing that up. So not only did Pokermonster know that he was amending the report quote to suit his agenda he knew he was amending the name of the report authors
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And having a go at me for being insulting! You are every bit as bad and you know it. Worse in fact, as I only resort to mild name calling like buttercup, you get far more nasty in your spittle flecked angry rants.
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Ah first dave1357 claimed that pokermonster said it was a directive , now he changes it to pokermonster saying it was a recommendation, very slippery. Who would not agree it was a recommendation?
Then he says it was the European council and not the EU, as if it matters. But he puts great emphasis on it being Teesude university, without even a mention of the background to this. Do not trust these sort of leftists, they don't deserve to be trusted. |
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I don't know what this continual reference to a mobo - isn't that black performance awards ?? Typical deflection. Dave infers that I am a liar and not a faux socualist despite carrying a Labour card all my adult life and supported most campaigns against racism and apartheid.
Isn't that typical of them, though, fling enough mud to confuse the argument. I know for a fact that dave is paid by the liberal party to come on here. And look what that lot supported!!! A tory government!!! |
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If course he says that pokermonster amended the report, well in what way he hasn't explained how ?
of course he got mixed up in the report being a suggestion, and what the report suggests It's subtle I grant you but he should try and understand |
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@lfc
directive, recommendation - same thing. If I had meant "European Directive", I would have used that word, however if that confused you I apologise. The Council of Europe and the EU are completely different organisations. For a start, we are leaving the EU and there are no plans to leave the Council. |
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*it was dave who got mixed up., not pokermonster. who's quote is exactly what the report said.
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no, a directive is not the same thing as a recommendation
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to your second point
just scroll up. Both sentences are there. He removed the first part of the sentence and capitalised the word "where" to make it appear to be the beginning of a stand alone sentence. |
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They are not completely different organisations , they are European countries and it is the policy of these European countries that we are duscyssung
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no, it was simple the appropriate quote , nothing is changed in the meaning of that quote.
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Their biggest failure (and mine) is to realise we do not have the answers within the Labour party at the moment and the right have won several of the arguments so far. Until Labour adapts and creates radical socialist policies we will remain in the wilderness. Even corbyn who I support, is completely wrong on nuclear and immigration. We need to be much more radical.
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So an organisation that was founded in 1949 with the UK as a founding member and that we aren't leaving is exactly the same as an organisation we joined in 1973 and are leaving? Very good.
Discussion further on the matter is pointless. |
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I never said they were exactly the same organisations, they have different names for a start .
Now if you can answer how pokermonsters quote is changed and in what way ? I feel it is a quote that is entirely true to what was said in the report now you haven't answered how the meaning is changed, perhaps it is a question that will remain nicely unanswered |
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Still no ideas on how we can eradicate the problem.
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Reading davey and his cronies is like listening to Reg in the Life of Brian. Too intersted in making minor syntactical points than facing up to the issue that the West has had its trousers pulled down and getting fooked up the backside because it is to frightened to be seen to offend anyone else's sensibilities apart from its own people.
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... and yes I am aware of some grammatical errors and spelling mistakes in that post.:/
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Their problem is when someone comes up with radical or, just simply, different opinions the ideas are condemned to the bin, being rubbished as akin to hitler/nazi politics with all the name calling added. 'The nazis did it to the Jews' is one of their more fanciful flights away from the problem. It serves their purpose of obfuscation and diversion leaving them (as they think) with the high moral ground.
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I'm still laughing at Dave's hissy fit over a capital W.
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