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Double the value !!
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Always quality over quantity from Dr Slicer. Merci mon vieux.
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Mon Plaisir. Race over so logging off (interest received on my investment). It is often very nice to have sensible discussions on here, so, many thanks. A little musical advice relevant to this discussion. Good luck and so long.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClQcUyhoxTg
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“I’m not afraid of death. I just don’t want to be there when it happens.”
Woody Allen. |
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I lost a special friend this year. Younger than me by 3 years. 4 young kids. I feel guilty that I'm here and she is not.
I would have taken her place if I had the choice due to her love for life, her charitable work and of course her children. |
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I was going to say I know the feeling Injera but that would be an insult. I have lost far too many close and dear to me and everybody has different reactions to losing someone special.
As for taking somebody else's place it cannot be done I'm afraid but if it could I would happily swap situations with Ms stew if it came to the crunch. That might sound brave but more the coward me imo, not wanting to go on without her. |
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That's a very special love you have for your wife Stew. Treasure that, (which I'm sure you do).
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I've spent the majority of my life being a miserable so and so, more "glass smashed to smithereens on the floor" than half full.
However, all of that changed a little less than five years ago when my wife fell pregnant shortly after we got married. There are all sorts of complications that can set in and all sorts of other bad things that could have happened. I simply refused to allow any such negative thoughts to enter my mind, instead, I consciously focused on all of the positives. Nine months later, we were fortunate enough to have a wonderful little daughter who started school earlier this year with her little brother two years behind her. I have managed to make this change in mindset a permanent feature. That's not to say that I don't have relapses from time to time because I do, but my general demeanor is now to find positives from whatever situation that I find myself in with a few books having helped me along that path (I highly recommend The Chimp Paradox). We are all getting older, we all have to deal with difficult situations and there will be more of these as we progress through our lives. Finding a way to manage yourself and others through life's twists and turns is well worthwhile and really will make your time here much more satisfying. |
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We're not actually married Injera hence the Ms instead of the mrs but that's irrelevent. My love life was a series of car crashes before I met her. Part of that lies at my side due to being a punter and I enjoy a drink now and then.
Iv'e already told the story on here on how we met but I wont go through it again. I don't believe in fate I just got lucky one night by turning right instead of left when leaving a pub. I've seen plenty in my lifetime and meeting the 'right one' must be the biggest conundrum there is in life imho. |
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A nice story Angoose and though it's been a long time since we conversed, (apart from today) I do believe you used to live in my city....Aberdeen?
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Actually Great Western Road if I remember correctly?
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I am indeed from Aberdeen and was living up near Great Western Road before I moved out to Dubai.
I haven't been on the forum for years and it's a strange but small set of independent events that have led me to here today. Chit chat remains the interesting mix of nonsense, comedy gold and decent discussions that I remember. |
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Prefer not to think about death until my health is fooked, other than make a will
Personally, I think we should have the right to end our own lives. I certainly don't want to be hanging on for dear life in a nursing home, with god knows what illness, and an utterly **** standard of life, whilst my assets are used to pay for my terminal care. I want them to go to my kids instead, should that be the case, and I be given the opportunity legally to top myself. I don't want to be a selfish old bastard hanging on for dear life. Sick elderly people are living too long and taking up too many resources. At the other end of the spectrum population growth is a huge problem. If I was giving aid to a country like India or Bangladesh it would only be in the form of contraception. Religion, once again, probably to blame. |
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When it gets to the point of having to have someone wipe your bum, that's when it's time to take yourself off to a Swiss clinic.
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“It is often argued that religion is valuable because it makes men good, but even if this were true it would not be a proof that religion is true. That would be an extension of pragmatism beyond endurance. Santa Claus makes children good in precisely the same way, and yet no one would argue seriously that the fact proves his existence. The defense of religion is full of such logical imbecilities. The theologians, taking one with another, are adept logicians, but every now and then they have to resort to sophistries so obvious that their whole case takes on an air of the ridiculous. Even the most logical religion starts out with patently false assumptions. It is often argued in support of this or that one that men are so devoted to it that they are willing to die for it. That, of course, is as silly as the Santa Claus proof. Other men are just as devoted to manifestly false religions, and just as willing to die for them. Every theologian spends a large part of his time and energy trying to prove that religions for which multitudes of honest men have fought and died are false, wicked, and against God.”
― H.L. Mencken, Minority Report |
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I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my grandfather. Not screaming and yelling like the passengers in his car.
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Aye Angoose I think I can even remember the pub you frequented in Holburn St. The Bells is now closed as you may well know as is the Filling Station and the Albyn is in administration.
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I've already calculated when and how I'm most likely to die.
The odds are on 82 of a stroke. That's if my habit of walking into the road without looking doesn't get me first. |
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I was in Aberdeen for a week in August and noticed that The Bells was no more, was also very interesting to walk around and see so many new residential developments.
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it's a miracle earth exits ,our time on it ,is nothing if you look at bigger picture
looking at the world as you get older,you realise earth is a totaly unfair place hope I cheered you all up  |
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John Cooper Clarke - Things Are Going To Get Worse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YunwdR7PnP0 |
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I take it you prefer Dubai to here or is a question of needs must be?
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I didn't expect to stay out here as long as I have but I enjoy my life here.
Got my kids in to a great school and I'm in no rush to leave, a lot of exciting opportunities here that I want to take advantage of. The weather does get tough to deal with in the summer but that's a small price to pay. |
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It will be a big shock weather wise for the family if you come back here. That aside I have no idea how the lifestyle is there. I presume there's a bit of leeway if you fancy a drink?
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Isn't Betfair banned in dubai along with every other gambling site, it being in an Islamic state n' all ?
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Funnily enough I was going to ask the same question. Maybe Sheik Mo allows the site but prevents a bet being placed?
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There is no problem to get a beer if you want to.
I, however, gave up drinking more than six years ago, that's one of the big changes I've made to my lifestyle, no regrets at all. VPN is a wonderful thing, I installed one today that I'll need to allow access to certain study material for the MBA that I'm undertaking with Manchester Business School, another change I've chosen to make in my life. |
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I still drink myself but it is vastly overrated.
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VPN is.
But if you are caught, you will do some serious time. |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RU0htOAaUg
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So that all looking in will sleep soundly tonight..
“Accustom yourself to the belief that death is of no concern to us, since all good and evil lie in sensation and sensation ends with death. Therefore the true belief that death is nothing to us makes a mortal life happy, not by adding to it an infinite time, but by taking away the desire for immortality. For there is no reason why the man who is thoroughly assured that there is nothing to fear in death should find anything to fear in life. So, too, he is foolish who says that he fears death, not because it will be painful when it comes, but because the anticipation of it is painful; for that which is no burden when it is present gives pain to no purpose when it is anticipated. Death, the most dreaded of evils, is therefore of no concern to us; for while we exist death is not present, and when death is present we no longer exist. It is therefore nothing either to the living or to the dead since it is not present to the living, and the dead no longer are.” ― Epicurus, Letter to Menoeceus |
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I would like to be immortal, if I could switch it off if I wanted to.
Don't you want to know what happens in the future? Death is no problem, it is dying which is the problem. Because we suffer physically and/or mentally. Once we are dead nothing matters to us, because we longer exist to matter. |
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The best death I saw was in 'Get Carter'(The Michael Caine version, the only one I saw)
He killed all the villains, so he had achieved everything, then someone shoots him through the head. He would not have known he was dead, and would have died at the best moment of his life. |
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Why would you want to be immortal Gery? It defeats it's own purpose being impossible. You want to switch off if you wanted to?
Best not think about it if it affects you so deeply. Because we suffer physically and/or mentally. That's true to an extent but the suffering may be the result of losing a loved one. To think otherwise is a tad selfish imo. |
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Losing a loved one, is not the same as our own death?
Of course we would suffer losing a loved one, but we may want to go on living, or we may not. If we die first, we are still going to lose them. I think everybody should have the choice, I see no point in keeping anyone alive, who does not want to be alive, ps. Immortality is impossible at the moment, it may not always be, our medical knowledge advances |
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We may need a bigger EARTH.
Or if not I would consider moving to Jupiter, if Zoopla rate it favourably. |
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Christ Gery that post is full of contradictions.
Losing a loved one, is not the same as our own death? No, it is not the same. If we die first, we are still going to lose them. Sorry but I can't phathom that one out. ps. Immortality is impossible at the moment, it may not always be, our medical knowledge advances If you believe that you really should go and see your doctor, even just to ask him his/her opinion . |
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Gery is one of the well known numpties on here.
Maybe a troll? |
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chit chat has a reputation for feeding ALL trolls who want to be fed, sadly.
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I don't know crags. Maybe had a few too many. I'm up late due to taking dihydrocodeine for back pain. What's your excuse?
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