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bigmo
22 Nov 16 09:52
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As many as 30 million people will be forced to wait an extra year before receiving a state pension under new plans being considered by Government.

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Facts
When: 22 Nov 16 10:31
Not sure that majority of people realise that you qualify for a full state pension after 30 years of NI contributions.
Still required to pay NI after this period, before you retire, but it's all ' wasted money'  - you won't get any extra pension.
By:
Degs
When: 22 Nov 16 10:42
I'm pretty certain that if you were born after 6th April 1951, it's 35 years of contributions now.
By:
TheBaron
When: 22 Nov 16 10:51
It is 35 years
By:
twizzle22
When: 22 Nov 16 10:53
Is it not strange that a resident of the Betfair forum that calls himself Facts can't seem to get his own FACTS correctCry
By:
ZenMaster
When: 22 Nov 16 10:58
Perhaps it's through sarcasm he is called FACTS.
Like a midgit i know, they call him Long'enLaugh
By:
ZenMaster
When: 22 Nov 16 10:59
Que a response from a snowflake saying i am being heightest
By:
1st time poster
When: 22 Nov 16 11:09
there were no complaints when it was 40 years lord only no,s why they dropped it to 30,then back to 35, it will obviously go back to 40 in time
By:
Crisp77
When: 22 Nov 16 11:32
I don't think Facts should refer to National Insurance contributions as "wasted money":

What do National Insurance payments pay for?

Your National Insurance payments go towards state benefits and services, including:

The NHS
Unemployment benefits
Sickness and disability allowances
The State Pension


Maybe Facts doesn't care about the sick, unemployed and disabled Confused
By:
1st time poster
When: 22 Nov 16 11:42
of course under the last so called unworkable system a working man on a decent wage could get a combined state pension of up to £270, now you can work as long as you like and earn as much as you like still pay the same amount of ni and be limited to a maximum of £155,of course no word of the where the extra money goes
By:
Facts
When: 22 Nov 16 11:46
Degs    22 Nov 16 10:42 
I'm pretty certain that if you were born after 6th April 1951, it's 35 years of contributions now.



I was born before that date. You're correct it's now 35 years

Crisp

Wasted in terms of ones own personal pension.
By:
1st time poster
When: 22 Nov 16 11:52
paying £30 ni or £100 ni is also now wasted as everyone in future will get £155 no matter how much ni you pay,no word from the government where the extra money goes,
this flat rate pension for which libdem mp webb got parlimanterian of the year is probably the biggest scam ever waved through the house of commons,perfect example of 660 mp,s waving something through with probably less than 10 of them understanding what it mean,biggest con ever
By:
Facts
When: 22 Nov 16 11:53
Agreed
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 22 Nov 16 12:23
For a long time,  I have believed that pensions will be means tested by the time I get to retire.
By:
donny osmond
When: 22 Nov 16 12:26
why dont they call it income tax instead of NI after 35 years

because its a dirty word and they fight over bringing headline taxes down whilst
draining the public in other ways

of course if you are rich you dont need pay any tax

trumpy reckons its a mugs game
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 22 Nov 16 12:30
There are a myriad of taxes, but NI isn't one.  As it goes towards your 35 year contribution target and therefore your pension, there are some direct-ish benefits.

There are no benefits to paying income tax other than the altruistic!
By:
sixtwosix
When: 22 Nov 16 12:35
Generations of women retired at 60 , on it's way to 68 for the rest , my missus wont be happy.
By:
donny osmond
When: 22 Nov 16 12:38
of course NI is a tax
By:
ZenMaster
When: 22 Nov 16 12:52
It all comes out of the same pot and all goes down the same hole.
By:
1st time poster
When: 22 Nov 16 12:53
yeh but if you carry on working after 65 at present you dont pay ni,if its added to the paye you will pay it,so with more and more people working past their retirement date you can bet you bottom dollar the 2 will be merged free money for the government, Cry
By:
TheBaron
When: 22 Nov 16 13:29
Its all very well saying people must work for longer but I'd love to know what industries are crying out to employ 66 year olds.
By:
1st time poster
When: 22 Nov 16 13:35
house of commons,lords
By:
Breedingmad
When: 22 Nov 16 13:58
B&Q like the oldies to work for them.
By:
DIE LINKE
When: 22 Nov 16 14:31
granny porn
By:
TheChaser
When: 22 Nov 16 15:14
what happens if you don't work much of your life on the books ? what kind of pension do you get  Confused
By:
TheChaser
When: 22 Nov 16 15:15
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TheChaser
When: 22 Nov 16 15:16
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By:
TheBaron
When: 22 Nov 16 16:38
what happens if you don't work much of your life on the books ? what kind of pension do you get

Go to the govt pension forecast site and you can see all the years you contributed and how much you will be getting.
By:
donny osmond
When: 22 Nov 16 16:42
you can phone them and they will send you a written projection

...job creation in action
By:
Aspro
When: 22 Nov 16 17:01
It's been known for many years now that retirement age is now 66 and in some case (mine included) it is 67. As for the NI contributions, last year I'd comfortably passed the 30 year barrier and have a quote in the drawer beside me clearly stating this. I've now ordered another under the new rules but I think, in April 2016, I hit 35 years. Didn't it used to be 44 years at one time Confused
By:
Aspro
When: 22 Nov 16 17:09

Nov 22, 2016 -- 7:29AM, TheBaron wrote:


Its all very well saying people must work for longer but I'd love to know what industries are crying out to employ 66 year olds.


I don't think they can retire them under the new rules unless they have a genuine excuse. There is no upper limit anymore as far as I'm aware

By:
1st time poster
When: 22 Nov 16 17:11
no ,they just make your life unbearable ask you to do the worst jobs etc so in the end you pack in anyway
By:
Aspro
When: 22 Nov 16 17:12
can't argue that point 1tp
By:
Aspro
When: 22 Nov 16 17:14
Number to get a pension quote as Donny pointed out...

Telephone: 0345 3000 168
By:
1st time poster
When: 22 Nov 16 17:19
basicaly to use the modern vanacular  if you dont add value you,ll be gone one way or another whatever the law says,medicals,fitness tests etc.etc
By:
Aspro
When: 22 Nov 16 17:36
You know the daft thing about all of this; ok, nowhere near retirement but the first two to arrive every day (me and a female colleague) are both in their 50's; all the others are under 30 and not one of them of them arrive, on time, on ANY day... and this includes the manager! Go figure!

One company I admire in this field is GSK. For some reason age isn't a problem with them and they hire old just as much as any young and they pay well too! (I'm not with them btw)
By:
TheChaser
When: 22 Nov 16 17:42

TheBaron 22 Nov 16 16:38 Joined: 18 Jan 08 | Topic/replies: 1,025 | Blogger: TheBaron's blog
what happens if you don't work much of your life on the books ? what kind of pension do you get

Go to the govt pension forecast site and you can see all the years you contributed and how much you will be getting.



Rather not know Laugh
By:
TheChaser
When: 22 Nov 16 17:45

1st time poster 22 Nov 16 17:11 Joined: 25 Dec 05 | Topic/replies: 20,540 | Blogger: 1st time poster's blog
no ,they just make your life unbearable ask you to do the worst jobs etc so in the end you pack in anyway


Very Very true

How much do you get if you have contributed basically zero they can't make you live on nothing can they ?
By:
Facts
When: 22 Nov 16 17:48
They're Tories. Of course they can ! They're trying their upmost to make it so.
By:
TheChaser
When: 22 Nov 16 17:48
In factories etc they want you at your position/station whatever they call it now at say 9am your start time

But they want you to turn up 10 minutes or so before to get into your factory gear which takes a good few minutes.You should be paid from entry to leaving when you arrive at your post as they have you on watch getting ready.
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