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British woman 'arrested in Dubai after reporting rape'
British woman 'arrested in Dubai after reporting rape'
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So they want Sharia law, but don't know exactly what it is or what form it would take
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they cannot have any other law apart from English law, anything else would be illegal.
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it is illegal in England for individuals to make the law. For almost 500 years English law is what the English parliament says is the law.
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Unless you live in tower hamlets
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ICM Poll (2016): 23% of British Muslim support the introduction of Sharia in the UK "instead of British Law"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3532355/More-half-Muslims-want-gay-sex-outlawed-nearly-quarter-support-areas-UK-run-sharia-law.html |
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^ Same issue....no definition of what from of Sahria law is being refered to in the question.
If that hasn't clicked with you at this point, I am not sure it ever will. |
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it doesn't matter what form it takes, if it differs from English law it is illegal, if it doesn't differ there is no need for it.
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It's a survey question lfc...the wording of the question effects the response.
Bloody hell, its like being in a special needs classroom. |
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yes Ozy,
Sharia law or Uk law I agree its very confusing. |
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yes I get that. I am not interested in how many agree with sharia law in its many aspects.
I would only be interested if everyone said no, we prefer to live under English law. its much too dangerous a concept to rely on a survey and what people might say. |
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The SNPs MSP Tasmina Ahmed Sheikh is a solicitor and her office is the first in Scotland to offer both UK and Sharia law.
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for your info Ozy, the question was
"Would you support or oppose areas of Britain in which Sharia is introduced instead of British Law" Not sure why you claim its invalid. |
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that doesn't surprise me. The SNP would do almost anything if they felt it would undermine our joint history.
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I can't see why any law other than the law of the land is even discussable. What if Catholics or anglers suggested such a thing?
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Can only assume you are winding me up at this point, Male.
Good luck to ya. |
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ok name some sharia law that differs depending on the so called hard or soft version?
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No matter what version you go by men claim the right to physically reprimand thgeir wife when she's in the wrong.
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Only just noticed this thread
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They will examine the allegation of rape with very little enthusiasm because their starting point will be that she is a western woman of low morals who was drunk and tempted men and in the past has had many casual sexual partners. If that is true or not they will start to view it in that from, this is not English Law.
I read somewhere that she should not have gone to the police but first should have gone to the British embassy out there, how many women would have known that ? |
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Exactly what I siad, why go to foreign police when the embassy will help you. and you are right about the low morals part. My first reaction was that she was having a great time in her hotel and once she got sober she realised what had happened and thought she'll report rape. Even if this is not what happened, this is what the police will think.
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You have decided she was probably not raped, and if she was, telling the police was a mistake. No surprise you are welcoming the newcomers, your country is almost lost.
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I have not decided anything. I am telling you how the folks in that part think. As I said, even the locals avoid the police. There is a reason why the men 'own' the women. Its because its not possible for the women to do stuff on their own in that part. As a tourist, you should at least inform yourself of the basics. I feel sorry for the woman for being trapped there, but I dont feel sorry for her for reporting being raped in an arab country.
Alternatively I could bash the Sharia law, call the arabs names, tell you all how barbaric their religion is. I could also list a few verses and you'll all join me in bashing them. But i am just telling you what the reality is(and as usual no one wants to hear it). |
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what is the point in arab police if they dont help anyone!
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I read somewhere that she should not have gone to the police but first should have gone to the British embassy out there, how many women would have known that ?
You would like to think that people read UK govt. travel advice for countries they are going to so they know what to do in the event something does go wrong. ttps://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/united-arab-emirates/safety-and-security Personal attacks, including sexual assault and rape, are relatively rare, but do happen. UAE law places a high burden of proof on the victim to demonstrate that the sexual relations were not consensual, especially when the victim had consumed alcohol or where the alleged attacker was known to the victim. If the sexual relations are determined to have been consensual, both parties may face prosecution for the offence of sex outside marriage. In 2013, a Norwegian woman who reported her rape to Dubai police was convicted of sex outside marriage and illegal consumption of alcohol. |
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Be fair to the lady,Dubai has promoted itself very strongly as a tourist destination and she was,apparently stopping over en route to Australia for a new life after divorce.The lady deserves support but if she has to rely on our noble Foreign Office for help she is in a desperate place (personal experience).
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Facts could be very different. There might be more to this story than they tell us.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=378NZFUtOI4
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dubai have seemingly seen sense and dropped charges against the lady
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God to hear. Hope this brings more awareness to people as to what not to do when in an arab country!
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Don't get on the plane would be my advice to any woman.
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I'm totally confused
 This woman was being held on a charge of having extra-marital sex after she claimed she was raped.... and then when they looked at the evidence (presumably what was filmed on their phone ?) then this proved it was consensual extra-marital sex.... and they dropped the case ? ? |
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doesnt add up
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^ No, doesn't add up, so either she made a false claim that she was raped, or she may have been drugged and was branded "consenting".
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Apparently the video on one of the lad's phones showed a willingness on behalf of the lady,hence a release on rape charges, but I sense Dubai is protecting its tourist industry there.If this was originally driven by their religious police this could indicate a dangerous undercurrent in play with the rulers starting to be challenged by the local Imams.
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