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I believe the phone was picked up by the Barton Mills mast at around 5.00 am.
It was traced as travelling from BSE to the Barton Mills area at vehicle speed. After that 5.00 am mast ping it was either switched off, broken or battery had gone flat. |
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I can't see how the phone (and most likely CM as well) could not have gone in the bin lorry. If plod have phone tracking plus CCTV of the lorry and the two are consistent then what other possibilities are there ? It looks like a pedestrianised shopping area so hardly any vehicles around. I suppose you could argue he could have lost the phone or had it nicked while he was sleeping off the booze but then he still has to leave the area without being on CCTV somehow. Plod must know a lot more than they've made public so far
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Weight of Greggs paper waste load collected by Biffa lorry was around 15kg I believe, and weight of missing man is around 85kg.
Last confirmed sighting was 3.25 am and lorry arrived in the area an hour later, unloaded bin and left which took all of four minutes. Journey from BSE to Barton Mills (Fiveways roundabout) is a fairly major route for the area which could have been taken by any number of other vehicles (containing missing phone, possibly missing man as well). Only way he could have left area he was last seen in without being picked up on town centre CCTV is in a vehicle. As with all these cases, police will generally hold back a lot of information either because people/vehicles are under investigation so they can not publicly comment so as not to harm the legal process and/or to keep back information only known to them and the perpetrator(s). Whenever a case goes to court, it tends to come out in the reporting how much extra information the police had all along. |
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Not sure he was intending to get back to base that night ,he drove himself out and parked his car up ,read it was untaxed so maybe he was a risk taker(he sat innit drinking (visited off licence) for an hour as he was on phone home ) and could have intended on getting it back on base once asap ,although i think it was parked offstreet in a shop car park .
Wanted to sober up a bit and drive back maybe ,tbh i find the stuff about him it not unusual to sleep in doorways very odd but maybe thats what he did ,slept it off and then drove back ? struggling to get a proper handle on the guy ,but i doubt he had intentions of walking back across the fields and anyway his mother said he has never before walked home after a night out(although no mention of how he usually got back) ,cant imagine him treking cross country in suede boots and white trousers and arriving on base looking like he has been on an assault course tbh struggling to get a handle on what his intentions were that night after he left club and noone is in a hurry to give any info out ,how did he normally get home or did he often stop out ect ...the base commander made comments about his lifestyle but unsure as what he was alluding to . been thinking about posting on here about this one ages ago but thought better of it due to same reasons as others have said ,police will be on the case and have a line of inquiry but not so sure now . throw in the abduction/terrorist angles and its all very convoluted his uncle says its impossible to get out of h/shoe without being picked up but his mother is checking in the forest,then asking for buildings that have not been checked around the horseshoe ,seems a very strange one indeed . |
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' ....Missing airman Corrie Mckeague is a "social hand grenade" who would get into a stranger's car and put himself at risk, his mother has said......'
Very strange. And odd use of words by his mother ! |
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Apparently he'd parked his cark in a disabled parking space and needed to be back by 9 am to move it or else risk a parking ticket?
Came across this from the Daily Mail about 3 men apparently acting suspiciously and possibly trying to set a car on fire: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4074018/Mother-missing-RAF-man-admits-social-hand-grenade.html Suffolk police said a bystander thought three men were trying to set the car alight whilst parked in a layby on September 25. The vehicle was later driven off but a rag which smelt of petrol was discovered. Later the force received a call on November 4 from a local who believed the incident was linked with Corrie's disappearance. |
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Apparently he'd parked his cark in a disabled parking space and needed to be back by 9 am to move it or else risk a parking ticket?
Came across this from the Daily Mail about 3 men apparently acting suspiciously and possibly trying to set a car on fire: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4074018/Mother-missing-RAF-man-admits-social-hand-grenade.html Suffolk police said a bystander thought three men were trying to set the car alight whilst parked in a layby on September 25. The vehicle was later driven off but a rag which smelt of petrol was discovered. Later the force received a call on November 4 from a local who believed the incident was linked with Corrie's disappearance. |
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I'd certainly be sceptical of any assumption that 'the police know a lot more than they're letting on'
So many high profile cases they have screwed up , usually by closing off a line of enquiry too early. |
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you must also understand , that years ago, pre new labour, you had to be of a certain stature to be a police officer, you had to have,
(as they use to tell me) a degree in common sense, but nowadays you are recruited because you either... A.Have a degree B are of a certain colour or religion C are of a certain / or uncertain Gender.. And not whether or not you'll make a good Police officer. |
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you had to have,
(as they use to tell me) a degree in common sense, or know somebody already in the force |
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yeah like the fire brigade hard to get into unless you know someone
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According to The Sun yesterday, they have discovered new information, yet to be made public, which raises further questions over Corrie's fate - and whether a crime could have been involved.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2611576/raf-airman-corrie-mckeague-mystery-seven-clues/ |
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This was from Friday's Sun, and as well as the report, an interesting theory about the bin truck in the comments at the bottom of the page!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2605712/corrie-mckeague-missing-raf-gunner-tracked-private-investigators/ |
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If The Sun is the UK's top selling newspaper then God help us.
You've only got to see the articles in the ' side bars ' of their on line version, to know what utter **** this moronic rag pumps out. Vile. |
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GeorgeB
I posted the same theory earlier in the thread. |
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surprised no mention of a UFO alien abduction - Suffolk ,RAF base etc
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Yes,Coachbuster, Mildenhall USAF base , boxing night 1980 ish....
Donny Osmond... yes. A_T.. its the Police Force, not the freemasons, of which i'am one, as well. |
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George / BigH - the first of the two links says that the cab of the truck was examined forensically and no trace of Corrie was found.
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If that truck isn't linked to the phone I'll give up punting.
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Indeed, Latalomne.
Though from the Friday report, Corrie's uncle has said, the bin lorry theory is "still an active line of inquiry". |
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if he wasn't inside the cab then could he have been hanging on to the outside of the bin lorry?
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' Once Upon A Time In America ' ?!
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if he wasn't inside the cab then could he have been hanging on to the outside of the bin lorry?
Perhaps the driver found the phone on top of one of the bins or on the ground and decided to take it and hasn't owned up to it for fear of being labelled a thief. |
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In that scenario more like fear of being labelled a murderer !
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99% that he was abducted and murdered........
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Corrie places the phone on top of one of the bins while he goes to relieve himself between the bins.
The attacker/s grab Corrie from behind to rob him (perhaps loses phone in the scuffle) He is strangled and his body is hidden somewhere in the horseshoe (unless a car did leave the horseshoe with the body) The attackers then return at a later date (at night) in a stolen car and remove the body from the horseshoe, drive off and bury the body in woodland etc. Then burn the car out. |
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Presumably the 4 x 4 with the foreign number plates has been forensically searched?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2611576/raf-airman-corrie-mckeague-mystery-seven-clues/ AROUND 36 hours after Corrie vanished, a female former Metropolitan Police officer out walking her dog says she saw three men standing outside a 4x4 car with foreign number plates. She described seeing a white male among them holding a rag and became suspicious they were trying to set fire to it. The woman reported the incident, three miles from Barton Mills, along the B1112 at Icklingham, to police. They are said to have traced the car and its occupants but Corrie’s mum Nicola remains disturbed and says: “I believe this to be very suspicious.” Although he had never attempted the cross-country route before, Corrie told one witness he was planning to walk back from the club. His route could have taken him past waterways and the privately-owned lake at Great Livermere. |
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-38664916
Corrie Mckeague: Swingers website membership probed Missing airman Corrie Mckeague's membership of a swingers website is part of the investigation in to his disappearance, police have said. The 23-year-old RAF gunner vanished after a night out in Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, on 24 September. His mother Nicola Urquhart said he had a Fab Swingers account. A Suffolk Police spokesman said: "We are aware of the social media and websites Corrie was using. This is part of our investigation." What we know about Corrie Mckeague's disappearance Mr Mckeague, from Dunfermline in Fife, was last seen walking alone in the market town at about 03:25 BST. He walked into a dead-end area known as the "horseshoe". It emerged on 9 January his girlfriend April Oliver is pregnant with his baby. Mrs Urquhart said his Fab Swingers account was "not a secret" and that it was known to the family "long before he went missing". "We were able to give police usernames straightaway so they could start looking into it," she said. "As far as I'm concerned it's nothing to do with the investigation but the police are looking in to it." Mrs Urquhart also said her son was not suffering from depression or mental health issues. A second public search for Mr Mckeague, who is based at RAF Honington, will take place on 22 January. Suffolk Police revealed they have identified three of the five people who were captured on CCTV footage since new images were released on Friday. |
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Have the police seen the 48 hours (at least) of CCTV footage of the horseshoe entrance/exit from the point of him walking in there?
From the point of him walking in to the point of the police physically searching the horseshoe area? Then examined every car that was in that area between those points of time? He has either sneaked out on foot, but would have been caught on other CCTV cameras around the town. Left by car, will have been caught on camera. Entered the back of a premises in the horseshoe area. Should have been searched thoroughly. Climbed over the buildings but would still have been caught on camera somewhere, and was knackered and tired, so why would he do that. This probably comes down to police not thoroughly examining something, as is often the case. |
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A social hand grenade
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It still shouldn't be beyond the plod to solve this. People can't disappear in a cul-de-cac, whatever their character.
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They can if there is a wormhole behind Gregg's
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Just been scrolling through the comments at the bottom of the DM article and this one caught my eye:
According to previous articles in the DM the bin lorry was supposedly checked for his DNA and eliminated. What was also mentioned in same article was that the bin lorry scales only measure up to 99kg then begin again. So, If that were the case, then what if there was 29kg of rubbish, and something/someone weighing 85kg? If the scales work that way then consider the possibility. |
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Interesting George.
On another note, had he been to the horseshoe area before after nights out? He was a regular in the town, so was it a regular meeting place with back door access to something seedy? Or did he know the bin driver, would he often meet the bin driver for something seedy? |
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ZenMaster, I think reports said that the some of the empty buildings were used by people living rough; also it was possible to climb over the wall as graffiti writers had managed to get up quite high (though Corrie was drunk and tired, so seems unlikely he would have been able to).
A lot points towards the bin vehicle given there are two (big?) coincidences, the fact it was there around an hour after the last sighting of Corrie and some of its subsequent route matches the tracking of the mobile phone. And it's plausible he was so tired that he went to sleep in one of the bins (though a forensic search would apparently rule this out). It appears the police didn't bother to search the landfill site for the phone. |
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Also the bin lorry was parked a long time in the alley, driver said he was doing paperwork. My mate does that job and it would be four or five minutes at that hour.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4137906/KATIE-HOPKINS-missing-RAF-man-Corrie-McKeague.html
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Gutter press strikes again.
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would that be your tory press ackie?
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Away and bore someone else softlad.
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