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lfc1971
When: 26 Apr 17 20:18
no I think in fairness to Christianity it was only in Christian countries that this sort of thing didn't happen and freedom of speech was allowed.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 26 Apr 17 20:43
i've said to Fionavon before there are a lot of evil men who hide behind the bible. there are priests and ministers who are murderers and child molesters. They do not belong to the body of Christ. There are christians that believe you have to live a good life, without sin? this too is false and wicked teaching.
Jesus took all sins past and future to the cross and has paid the price. Those that accept Christ accept GRACE, a free pardon. This does not hand you a blank cheque to sin. Because you replace your sinful nature with Christ. You want to be the good son. Sin should not be preeminent in your life. If you were a thief, no more stealing. Otherwise you are a hypocrite. Ultimately God sees if you are ernest.(not freddy)truthful? 

there are luciferians in the church, In the C of E, in all stratas of life - the clip I posted shows a man talk about how they control the 'dogs' those that are oblivious about where they are. They manipulate people into conflicts and wars, get people to invest their hatred against any group to damn themselves. They film each other killing children to gain leverage and blackmail power over each other, they take oaths, they belong to freemasonary, catholic groups, russian groups, skull and bones(usa), every nation, every religion. It's all one - Luciferian - they create enemies, dissolve them, create new ones and make money in the markets over it all. Russia was our ally now they are the enemy? Japan and Germany are our pals? the Saudis attacked the twin towers and we destroy Afghanistan and Iraq?
watch the guy talk in the clip.
By:
Foinavon
When: 26 Apr 17 22:42
For lfc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto-da-f%C3%A9

I know you don't belong to an organised religious group, Zorro and I have commended you for it.
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lfc1971
When: 26 Apr 17 23:11
Foinavon that was the nature of the world at that time, but I think it is nonsense to say that all religions are equal.
some are barbaric by their very nature . It is not possible to have had the renaissance and the European enlightenment and advances in Human rights and democracy and the great freedoms we have without reference to the fact that these countries and its people , its scientists and artists and writers and rulers and citizens and justice system system and social  society etc  were Christian countries and Christian people.
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zorrostrikes
When: 26 Apr 17 23:13
again with the condemnation of the papists. they are not of Christ. they are Rome.
they tried to wrap him up in their own beliefs and make him lesser.
some of their congregation understand enough to be saved. some are lost in rituals.

you can pray to saints?(replacements for apollo and minerva and other minor deities) we all are saints who believe in Christ. only God makes saints. not man. there will be tribulation saints. men and women who die rather than take the mark.

Christ is God, he will not be pigeon holed or held by corporation laws. there is no governing body that controls God.
By:
Foinavon
When: 26 Apr 17 23:51
I agree that the overt political power and barbarism of the Roman church has diminished enormously since the Renaissance and is a putty cat compared with the one you allude to, lfc. Even in this country of free speech we are careful of criticising it and we all know why.
This does not mean that some would not like to see the power of the church restored and the blasphemy laws strengthened and enforced.
Why don't religions like open criticism of their beliefs and have even resisted translations of their holy books into languages all can understand? It's because their beliefs do not stand the test of logic.
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zorrostrikes
When: 27 Apr 17 02:34
you can download freeware to your pc, as it's downloading you get a status report. one percent, 5 percent and so on. it keeps changing it's mind when it will complete. 10 minutes and hour? thirty minutes, seven minutes. you get frustrated and press control alt del. the machine freezes up and you think it's still downloading. so you wait. the machine settles and there is no messages - so you go make a cup of tea... you get back and the file is on your pc's desktop. it appeared from nothing. in the blink of an eye it appeared.

the information had a sender, it popped out of nothing, it has no mass. it's a product of thought. it can be manipulated. it can change, be tweeked.

Jesus promised to make a place in heaven, when he was done his first action would be to come back for his bride. the timing of his return is uncertain, like the rigmarole above to download a file. When he appears our information will be translated from VHS to BLURAY. corrupted bodies will put on in-corruption. time and death defeated.

digital simulation theory is that a thing now? 



“Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God; believe also in me.  My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you?  And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.  You know the way to the place where I am going.”

Then Judas (not Judas Iscariot) said, “But, Lord, why do you intend to show yourself to us and not to the world?”

Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.

“All this I have spoken while still with you. But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.

“You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.  I have told you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe.  I will not say much more to you, for the prince of this world is coming. He has no hold over me,  but he comes so that the world may learn that I love the Father and do exactly what my Father has commanded me.
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