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By:
fool proof
When: 15 Jul 16 17:35
Get in line or fcuk off.Some chance,Here in Scotland we import them to fantastic places like Rothesay and convert the local church to a "pop up mosque".
By:
Satrus_Froot
When: 15 Jul 16 17:36

Jul 15, 2016 -- 4:15PM, Just Checking wrote:


Galloway was on TV the other day speaking to Andrew Neil and came up with the old leftie canard (lie) that we are supplying these people the weapons. Andrew Neil pointed out they are using (apart from rare exceptions) Russian style weapons, AKs and the like. Galloway knew he was rumbled so quickly dropped that and changed the subject as he knew he was talking rubbish and didn't want to be made a fool of.Nice to see typical internet conspiracy nut satrus froot showing his ignorance and calling me a clown for calling him out. Go back to your grauniad and your foil hats.So the middle east problems and all the problems caused by a religion that's been around and killign people for 1400 years are due to nasty western capitalist arms manufacuters wanting to sell guns. And you call me a clown.


Firstly on Russia, well I never, Russia aren't corrupt, they're authority is as straight as it comes. Where's the rolls eyes emoticon when you need it? You try and pin the barbarism on Russia yet the irony is the far right in England want to emulate Russian policy here. Of course they've had a hand in it. Shock horror, they're human rights abusers too. You'll go a long way to find a country on this earth that is either not playing a part in pure corruption of war or poverty, or feeling the effects of it.

Galloway is a wailing banshee, as is Neil, I have no interest whatsoever in what either have to say. That doesn't detract from what America have done, there's evidence swarming all over the net to clearly prove that I.S have used US arms, from tanks to rifles. And you didn't just say there has been murder in the middle east for 1400 years did you? Yes, because the west and good old britain have been squeaky clean in that time. Apart from becoming the most dominant empire in human history that enslaved, hung and brutalised just about every race on the planet, we've been alright. But that was nothing to do with politics and everything to do with religion, rolls eyes again. And yet we still have human slavery in this very country today thanks to those beautiful private prisons popping up everywhere. Yep you guessed it, they're ran for profit too.

But anyway, there's been unjust massacres, slavery and the poorest fighting the most privileged for the history of human mankind all over the globe, it's not just a middle east thing. There were slaves back in the days of ancient egypt. Religion really is not the root cause. Not that it matters but in no way am I religious either.

By:
ZenMaster
When: 15 Jul 16 17:40
Perhaps it's time to end the religious myth.

Jesus
Mohammed
God
Allah
................................................................................................................

Start afresh with the kids.
Let science lead the way.

Islam is in a similar place Christianity was 400 years ago.
Back then it was common to believe the religious fear mongering.

Muslims fear Judgement Day just as Christians did 400 years ago.

Time to spread the word that it's ALL bollux.
Yes, let's start with Christmas....tell the kids that Jesus didn't die for 3 days and rise again.
It was is astrological/literal hybrid......a story made up by astrological philosophers from the bronze age.

Let's stop teaching MYTHS.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 15 Jul 16 17:49
I knew he wouldn't be a real muslim his cousin has just said so
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 15 Jul 16 19:13
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http://tinyurl.com/jjyhgml
By:
casemoney
When: 15 Jul 16 19:26
Police need traquiliser Bullets ,Hung Drawn and Quatered when wake up ,Body fed to pigs
By:
Platini
When: 15 Jul 16 19:34
Just watched the ITN version of the news. They've outdone even the BBC this time.

Interview with a British couple (who probably weren't anywhere near the promenade when the truck appeared) but describe last nights events and more importantly talk about how its important not to tie this with Islam "this had nothing to do with religion" says the carefully chosen interviewee.

Talk about some of the victims including some children but the biggest mention goes to, you guessed it, a muslim woman - "she was the first to be killed", "and she was a muslim"
"but she did not follow the kind of islam allowed by terrorists"  blah blah

Later on another interview with some young British lawyer on holiday in Nice - he talks briefly about the horror, before launching into a long PC deluded rant about how this will inspire people to vote for the right wing, blah, blah
By:
Just Checking
When: 15 Jul 16 19:45
The BBC made sure they got that same (I'd guess) couple on the 6pm news early on in the coverage.
Sitting in front of a cafe?
Snow on C4 news falling over himself to get a french woman to say this was all just due to the perps rough upbringing.
By:
Platini
When: 15 Jul 16 19:55
yep same couple.
By:
Roger The Butler
When: 15 Jul 16 21:25
portmanpark   
15 Jul 16 11:24 
we are lucky we have water between us and europe


Yes, to an extent, but we have already been infiltrated as all European countries have. There are hundreds of thousands of Muslims already here. What if only a small percentage of those are becoming radicalised enough to plan something? Yes the intelligence services can hopefully stop the bigger co-ordinated attacks, but someone acting on their own doing ISIS's will? How can you stop it?

Does anyone seriously think we have not got one of these horrific incidents coming our way? It is surely only a matter of time before a British Mohamed does something similar to what this French Mohamed did.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 15 Jul 16 21:38
It is worrying Roger and I dont want to tempt fate, but the facts are....1 person dead due to islamist terrorism in this country in 11 years- Lee Rigby.  Either the threat is over played or our intelligence is very very good.
By:
ebulGery
When: 15 Jul 16 21:39
Davy  • July 15, 2016 4:44 PM BST 

Jul 15, 2016 -- 4:38PM, ebulGery wrote:


You can complain about ISLAM all you want, but before the 1990's we had no problems with them.So what has changed, because it is certainly not ISLAM, the complaint is it never changes.They have called Jihad in defence of Islam, why have they done that?

Look up Sayyd Qutub the father of Radical Islamism.Executed by the Egyptians in 1966.


Most of his work was theoretical. He was executed for plotting against Nasser.
He was not a terrorist. There were  NO Islamic terrorist attacks in Europe then.
Neither did we invade Middle Eastern countries then.
By:
ebulGery
When: 15 Jul 16 21:42
There were the Arab Israeli wars of course. This did affect Europe.
By:
ebulGery
When: 15 Jul 16 21:43
not affect Europe sorry, except the price of petrol
By:
Roger The Butler
When: 15 Jul 16 21:46
Hi Rob,

This is true and our intelligence does seem to be good. My worry is that these do not now appear to be trackable attacks planned by a group which can be traced - these are now random acts committed by martyrs.

Should someone sat festering and fuming in a London bedsit decide that tomorrow they are going to go out and drive a lorry into a crowd, shoot/knife/bomb anyone they can reach at a shopping centre, etc - I don't know how intelligence can be sure of stopping that.

The threat isn't overplayed as it is happening so close to us I can't believe we will escape this barrage untouched. I hope you are right.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 15 Jul 16 22:04
I understand your point amd do not want to tempt fate by speculating further.
By:
Injera
When: 15 Jul 16 22:16
BBC Sept 2015:

The number of people arrested for terrorism-related offences has reached record levels, new figures reveal.

In the year to March, 299 terror suspects were detained - an increase of 31% on the previous year - of which 100 were charged with a terror-related offence, Home Office figures show.

It is the highest number since officials began collecting data in September 2001.

BBC March 2016:

The number of people arrested in Britain on suspicion of terrorism fell slightly in the year to December 2015, Home Office figures have shown.

The 280 arrests - down from 289 in the 12 months before - reflect a drop from 28 to 15 in cases focused in Britain.

International-related arrests, including those linked to Syria, rose by seven to 265 in the same period.

Sixteen people under 18 were arrested - a rise from 10 in the previous 12 months.

The figures show the number of children arrested was the highest in a calendar year since the data collection began.

Sad
By:
akabula
When: 15 Jul 16 22:17
Cameron stated that UK security  had foiled 11 attempts last year.
I can remember some cases in court but all were given minimum publicity.
I think Roger is right unfortunately. Hard to see us not being targeted.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 15 Jul 16 22:19
Can you provide links injera?
By:
Just Checking
When: 15 Jul 16 22:24
A big worry I'm afraid is copy-cats now it's been shown to work.SadSadSadSad
What a world, so depressing :(
I'm turning my back on humanity, getting an island somewhere and livng out my days with Kenny Manns cat (that'll I win the affection of and steal away with me)Wink
By:
akabula
When: 15 Jul 16 22:26
Kenny's cat's

By:
Ron-Russian
When: 15 Jul 16 22:27
Has Tony Blair commented on this tragedy Sad

not a day goes past when this mans actions from the past cause damage yet he sits
on a fortune...how on earth does he sleep at night
By:
Just Checking
When: 15 Jul 16 22:32
I want this cat:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5aRlPa5WJw
By:
ebulGery
When: 15 Jul 16 22:35
Neither do I Ron?

The point I try to make is that the extreme, well insane version of Islam we have now.
Only exists because the West removed Saddam Hussein, Gadhafi and attempted unsuccessfully to remove Assad.

These men were/are brutal dictators no doubt, but at least they kept their lunatics locked up, who now appear to be running the show.
ISIS being quite the most appalling group I have ever seen.

Lovely cat pictureHappy
By:
sickoflayinwinners
When: 15 Jul 16 22:35
if anjem choudry was living somewhere like argentina and considered any threat his disappearance would be a formality, in fact in most countries that viewed him a a threat he'd be lifted and dealt with.im astounded when i hear people are against picking known threats p and touring them for information.of course its damn near impossible to stop random attacks but having isis sympathisers walking freely in our country is  just not acceptable.only terrorsts would give a fck if tomorrow he "mysteriously" disappeared from our streets.
By:
ebulGery
When: 15 Jul 16 22:38
We cannot do that layinwinners. We could pass a law and lock him up, all we can do. Yes he is one of the lunatics now out of the asylumSad
By:
Kelly Brook
When: 15 Jul 16 22:41
But anyway, there's been unjust massacres, slavery and the poorest fighting the most privileged for the history of human mankind all over the globe, it's not just a middle east thing. There were slaves back in the days of ancient egypt. Religion really is not the root cause. Not that it matters but in no way am I religious either.

Satrus

So the simple fact that these terrorists are acting in accordance with specific religious doctrine relating to Jihad and a sincere belief in the metaphysics of Martyrdom has absolutely nothing to do with religion?
By:
Just Checking
When: 15 Jul 16 22:44
You're wasting your breath talking sense Kelly.
By:
akabula
When: 15 Jul 16 22:45
I'd fight ye for that cat JC, then again .............Blush
By:
Just Checking
When: 15 Jul 16 22:47
PM me if ye think yer hard enuff u pencil necked etc etc etc etc AngryCrazyCrazy GrinWink
By:
akabula
When: 15 Jul 16 22:51
Laugh
By:
grappler
When: 15 Jul 16 22:52
nigeria, algeria, sudan, pakisatn, afghan, turkey, tunisia, libya, iraq, iran, egypt, and loads more countries in the islamic world suffer these attacks every week, and we hardly hear of it. islamo-loonies routinely murder all who do not follow the faith with sufficient demonic rigour. it is not an accident, it is not a tiny minority; it is all to do with this faith. it will brook no opposition, and will finish us all off unless someone has the cobblers to stand up to it. dishonest fools like ebul gery look to blame the west. this happens in all these countries. western involvement is not necessary for mass-murder. it is commonplace wherever islam exists. and we have a fifth column in europe that will do us all in while apologists and truth-deniers deny the fact that the religion of pieces is fundamentally inhuman.

there is not a single islamic country where even basic human rights exist. the stinking intellectual hypocrisy of our politicos is mind-boggling, and some pay the ultimate price for it. why are the islamic spokesmen(always men) who rage against islamophobia in the media absent from our screens when these attacks occur, but are on the streets protesting whenever a tiny slight against their vile creed is voiced?
By:
sickoflayinwinners
When: 15 Jul 16 22:52
ebulgery , i think desperate situations demand desperate actions, why can we not deport all known terrorist sympathisers, ?lets change our law to allow  ourselves to deal with this animals properly.most muslims detest  the kind of  violence that fanatics love so who would we upset?
By:
sickoflayinwinners
When: 15 Jul 16 23:02
i must say if todays events in france had happened the week before the referendum there would have been no need for one .!unless we choose to be tough on known sympathisers is certainly that we will suffer  attacks similar to the french again soon and possible often.
By:
ebulGery
When: 15 Jul 16 23:04
I agree lainwinners, now we out of the EU we can do it

grappler, I am not dishonest, maybe a fool yes?
But we cannot remove all of Islam can we, unless we are proposing genocide, which I would object to.

Perhaps it is unfair to blame this all on the West, but I can only say what I see. I am very concerned the West's motives
from the first Gulf War on, and why did the USA have in it's foreign policy bring down Iraq?

Whether we like or not, we have to come to some sort of accord with Islam.
I am not saying surrender, oh no, but we have to negotiate in some way.
Otherwise what we see now will continue.
By:
mobo
When: 15 Jul 16 23:15
Islam doesn't accept an accord. Islam or, rather, the book, cannot be challenged. To do so makes you a traitor to the cause.
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 15 Jul 16 23:18
Islam means submission

It's their way or no way simple
By:
grappler
When: 15 Jul 16 23:32
no need for the ? gery. you are a fool. and you should feck off to specsavers if thats all you can see. we cannot remove islam you say. is that desirable? if so you accept it is horrible, and incompatible with our way of life?

islam is non-negotiable. thats why all islamic nations are phecking horrible, and every one of their people will escape to the decadent west if they can; millions of migrants bolting through the balkans now. why do they want to go to christian europe? there are 50 islamic countries to leg it to, but they want to go to germany, uk, sweden. why?

you and the other deluded kn0bheads on this sh1tehole forum are useful idiots(for islam), do not get it, because you are a shower of tcnus.
By:
anxious
When: 15 Jul 16 23:34
Good God if Grippergate has come on before Midnight its a serious matter
By:
anxious
When: 15 Jul 16 23:35
Either lost at poker or run out of ale
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