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The case for BABE RUTH as greatest ever sportsperformer
The case for BABE RUTH as greatest ever sportsperformer
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How would you know? You've shown time and again that you know little to nothing about the game. How can you gauge the skill level required?
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The fact you've just said Golf is barely and sport and then tell me that I know nothing about Baseball? Talk about pot kettle and black
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Golf doesn't exactly require great athleticism, although considerably more than motor sport which you used as an example earlier. I love golf. It's barely a sport in the same way that snooker or darts are though.
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Oh, and you do know nothing about baseball, as you continue to demonstrate.
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I've watched Baseball but already said am no expert, the point you keep missing is though, that sportsmen from Golf and Tennis are playing more technical sports in a sport that is highly competitive the world over, as I've said many times, although I've asked you why you think Baseball is better or more technical and you haven't answered, you just keep fanboying the sport instead.
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In what way have you proved tennis or golf require more skill? I've posted rough statistics that show exactly how difficult it is to hit a baseball.
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As to which game is 'better,' surely that is subjective.
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Returning a tennis ball against serve at 120+mph is not easy at all either.
Tennis is more skilful because it requires you to learn different ways of hitting the ball, different types of shots and holding the racquet, serving, forehand, backhand, one handed backhand, volleys, overhead smashes, drop shots, sliced shots, very dynamic and skillful. |
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I've not tried to dismiss any of them as being easy although a tennis player does not run the risk of serious injury should the ball hit him. Certainly not to the extent that a baseball player does.
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They have nowhwere near the protection you hinted at earlier btw. A helmet,elbow pad and shin guard doesn't offer that much protection.
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Doubt a tennis ball would do this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBQPk9Bva14 |
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Go Brewers, btw!!
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Stanton has elite power btw. Can't hit for sh!t though. Hitting baseballs is hard!
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A hard ball doesn't and greater risk of injury doesn't make it more of a sport.
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A hard ball doesn't what?
I didn't say greater risk makes it more of a sport either, so quit making sh!t up for me. I'd rather take my chances of returning the 120mph (or whatever you said) tennis ball than the 88mph fastball coming towards my face though. |
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stanton has hit some of the longest balls in history..........hes on 30m per year until he is 38!.........and some idiots call baseball rounders
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then what point you making, why are you saying the ball in baseball is harder and their is a greater risk on injury, why is that relevant to the point in hand
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You don't think that the risk of serious injury factors into the difficulty of hitting the ball whatsoever?
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The hitter in baseball runs the risk of being hit every single time he faces a pitch. And baseballs hurt. The returner in tennis just has to worry about grunting and fist pumping.
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Leave the ladies outta this please..
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Yes it's difficult, but it's one aspect, Tennis and Golf requires many aspects in regards to how they hit a ball abd how hard, to succeed, Baseball just can't compare. You're drawing too much attention to something that relates little to an argument about what is a more skillful/technical/dynamic sport, sorry but Tennis/Golf win it hands down and btw there is just as big a risk of injury in horse Racing or Gymnastics.
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golf and tennis are obviously 100% skill based games but just because baseball requires power does not mean THAT THE GUY HITTING IT IS NOT ONE OF TEH MOST SKILLFUL GUYS IN ALL SPORTS..........HE IS..........and we have not spoken about pitchers...........100% skill. FACT.
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I've already explained to you that hitting the ball as hard a you can is NOT what hitting is about. Did you read the bit about Ichiro and Rose with their combined 8500 hits but just 275 or so home runs between them? They are recognised as the all- time 'hit kings' - not Ruth or Aaron or Bonds.
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You don't have to hit a ball in hoss racing (which certainly used to have the highest fatality rate of any sport, although with the advance of 'xtreme sports' I'm sure this no longer applies) or gymnastics.
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There is just much more to Golf and Tennis to be successful and much more competition to reach the top.
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Baseball players fail to hit two out of every three times they go up to hit. Tennis players and golfers do not. Ergo, it's much harder to hit a baseball than a tennis or golf ball. Refute that, with statistics. TIA.
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There is not more competition in golf or tennis btw. How many people even play tennis or golf professionally?
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Keep in mind that 1200 new professional baseball players were drafted by MLB teams only last week. And another 1200 will be next year, and the year after...
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Worldwide many more people try to get to the top going by the number of countries that participate in those sports. it's not about being saturated with pro's, the difficulty is making it there. Most people in many parts of the world could walk past the best Baseball player and not know who he was, if they walked past Tiger woods of Federer they would.
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Lets see your figures. I'm the only one providing any numbers here, unless you count lfc's 'only 10 golf shots in a trillion are truly struck' as data.
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the amount of people who play golf worldwide is overestimated...........america and the british isles yes..........in southern europe its played by tourists.........no one plays it in eastern europe and russia........northern europe not so much...........latin america, no one..........india/china/middle east NO ONE...........africa NO ONE.......poor counties of asia NO ONE
by the way, golf is my favourite sport by a long distance |
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I don't think scan even reads the posts or he is just thick. We have explained to him umpteen times about how technical baseball is but he just doesn't listen. We are wasting our time. Batters have to be able to hit the ball with diversity, just like tennis. They have to learn how to hit the ball in all manners and to different areas of the field, depending where the defenders, I'll call them that to keep it simple, are lined up. You go on about golfers having to hit a precise target, lol, a green fifty yards wide, whereas a pitcher has to throw the ball to a precise point over home plate, arranged prior in discussion, by signals, with the catcher. If he is even a baw hair out, the chances are the batter will hit it out the stadium. All three games, golf, tennis and baseball are highly technical sports. Regards fitness and exertions, tennis would be the biggest challenge, followed by baseball then golf. You are either completely ignorant of baseball, which is evident from your ridiculous comments, or you are just winding us up.
Braindeadjockeys, Check out the Ken Burns 10 DVD Box set entitled Baseball and I guarantee that you will be completely enthralled by it and thoroughly enjoy this historical documentary series. |
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will defo look at that mac........thanks
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Most of the episodes are on youtube. I think just the 1970s one isn't, or wasn't when I last looked.
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The only thing mightymac and mikael have done on this thread is be very rude and abusive to myself and lfc, and it's a choice between mikael and acquiesce as who's the most angriest poster
My whole point from the beginning is that sports like Tennis and Golf are more difficult because they are much more skillful and tecnical, this can't be doubted, yet mikael is upset because he loves Baseball so instead bangs on about how difficult it is to hit a ball rather than acknowledging that Tennis and Golf requires more than specialising in one aspect, they are simply far more dynamic. I feel like I'm telling someone their wife is unattractive and they are insisting she's not because they married her, love is blind people. And Baseball is pretty much a niche sport because few countries play it, like Curling. That's all i have to say as I've gone around the block to many times. Thank you for the discussion and goodnight, sleep tight.  |
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No worries mate, think you can get complete series on Amazon for about forty quid, but dvds are region 1 so you need multi region player. Honestly, if you liked the Babe Ruth documentary you will be blown away by this. All the greats featured. If not, I'll refund you, lol.
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Noo he is having a go at Curling ffs
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I've not been rude at all, unless you count telling the pair of you that you don't know what you're talking about as being rude.
You patently have no idea about the nuances involved in hitting a baseball, so why you continue to argue as if you do is beyond me. I've already told you I love golf. Yes, I prefer baseball but that's merely because I prefer team sports generally. I prefer football too. I also showed you that it is not a niche sport. There are more people playing baseball professionally than golf and tennis COMBINED. |
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Scan, how can you tell someone they are talking pish without coming across as rude. No offence intended but you just don't listen. By the way, the wife's an ugly b++++++
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