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I know there must have been thousands of threads posted about gambling but time after time I end up broke,so I was wondering would someone out their in the gambling world share a few secrets on how to succeed .
Now don't get me wrong I am not fishing,i like to think I am better than the average punter .But I need to find some new tips to harness the knowledge I already have.
I was thinking if everyone added a little piece of good advice we may all improve our gambling habits.
so I suppose my biggest problem is I get too greedy when I am on a good run,and the other side of the coin is that I chase to get my money back.
so I guess I have decided to correct my two mistakes which are
1=NEVER CHASE
2=DONT BE GREEDY WHEN YOU ARE ON A GOOD RUN.
please post your views to help improve gambling.thanks in advance.
Now don't get me wrong I am not fishing,i like to think I am better than the average punter .But I need to find some new tips to harness the knowledge I already have.
I was thinking if everyone added a little piece of good advice we may all improve our gambling habits.
so I suppose my biggest problem is I get too greedy when I am on a good run,and the other side of the coin is that I chase to get my money back.
so I guess I have decided to correct my two mistakes which are
1=NEVER CHASE
2=DONT BE GREEDY WHEN YOU ARE ON A GOOD RUN.
please post your views to help improve gambling.thanks in advance.
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I play poker and along with game selection and patience a major must is bankroll management.
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BTW Ovalman is yer best bet. If he passes by read and learn.
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If you do not have a solid understanding of mathematics and probability you cannot win long term ,unless you win the lottery for instance ,by pure chance.
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my problem is that if I set out to win 20 quid a day I lose focus at some time.for example =if I won 20 quid a day ,this day next year I would show 7300 profit for the year,but after 4 or 5 winning days the greed kicks in,and I try to make money faster if you know what I mean.and as I say if I lose I also try to get it back quicker .
so if I win or lose I am burning the candle at both ends. I am sort of like the cigarette smoker that stops,four or five days later the old habits come back. I can work tireless for 5 days and then get sucked in on real Madrid(1/3)or something like that ,and if it loses I am on a chase or if it wins I get more greedy and blast something similar. so I am sort of in a loop. And the discipline goes out the window .I guess I need long term discipline. |
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Stop gambling.
Come back in 6 months Think about all the money you have saved in the last 6 months by not gambling. I mean really think about it. Deposit it. Look at your bank balance. You are up, you have more than you've ever had before. You have the psychological advantage. Now bet with level stakes on things you know about. Doesn't matter if you go on a bit of bad run. You are still betting with money from 5/6 months ago. Break will also do you the world of good. You will slowly shed the brassneck, you will breath easier. You will think clearer, come back fresher, make better decisions. Give up the drug and you will find the cure. |
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1=NEVER CHASE
2=DONT BE GREEDY WHEN YOU ARE ON A GOOD RUN. You're looking at it from totally the wrong perspective mate You're seeing it as one huge long winding road THAT YOU HAVE NO CONTROL OVER , so it doesn't really matter whether you win or lose as like you say the end result is inevitable . You need to study more (maths is not always the key) but You must seek VALUE .. and try treat every bet independently (why are you placing that bet ?) I asume you play to fairly levelish stakes , could you go without a bet for 2 weeks then whack a few hundred on ? You Should be more Greedy on a good run , but Never chase ! Trading can also be valuable (but you must be smart enough to see a trade outright) Try & work on what works for you & cut out what doesn't (sounds simples) but then you can work on your marginal edge  |
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Has your life improved Mc Moonbeam
You was in a bad state a year or two ago I hope you are happier now? Since bookies exist I assume most of us lose, but I know one person who wins at Greyhounds, not me though  |
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Invest rather than gamble.
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I OWNED 24 BOOKIES OFFICES BEFORE I RETIRED,MY SONS NOW RUN THEM,so I guess I have a fair bit of knowledge about gambling,i also was a pricer for the crooks in the eighties on football ,and I priced football for the independent bookmakers association of Ireland for 10 years up to
the early ninties. I won over 3 grand today .but I only gamble to pass the time,i try to beat betfair at maths,but find it so difficult . and I won over a million quid on golf betting at the age of 27. SO do not underestimate old brass. |
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I also won 250,000 on Annie winning the Champion Hurdle.
but I can not beat betfair on maths. |
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 Now I'm confused. You gave us the impression you were a mug, recreational gambler. Turns out that it's you that should be penning and selling a few gambling books, given us advice. With that much experience in the game, I don't understand this thread at all. Fishing I assume. |
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I wouldn't of thought you really need any advice, judging by what you have just put brassneck.
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Well done brass - probably your best bit of luck ever in life today as i don't
normally congratulate people! i put 50p in the coffee machine at work today but it thought id put a 2£ coin in so i got back £1.80  |
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the gambler starring james caan. must watch this film.
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Not really Gery , i've been very ill for over a year now (mainly why i didn't post) but still betting/trading/pokering/investing the whole time .
I guess i've just learned to exist like a lone wolf hunting but thanks for asking |
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only gamble what you can afford to lose - pay all your bills first. food bills too.
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Paper trade with any so called edge and if after x number of bets you aren't in profit steer clear of the deposit button. Why someone that apparently won several million is starting this thread apparently owning bookies all over the uk I have no idea other than the usual BS people write online
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DO YOUR SONS NEED HELP TOO
How did you get started then Brass ? You won't beat Betfair at maths as Betfair is a math/bots game (no brain required)  |
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no,i have discovered that someone gets the results faster than I can,and I fall into traps very often.my goal is to get a mathematical system to beat betfair,so I do not have to rely on luck.but its very time consuming and sometimes I think its near impossible.so that's why I posed the question on psychology of gambling in the hope that something is straight on front of me and I can not see it.
so I hoped someone could give me the key to unlock the door. its a mathematical system I want,not trying to win backing maiden hurdle favs in Ireland,or laying odds on away teams,or backing Kirby over 6 furlongs .they all show profit but I am relying on other peoples decisions. I want the maths formula to beat betfair not an edge. |
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It begs the question if betfair is as close to mathematical certainty as it gets how can it be beaten?
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So you must have been online a lot by what you've said there.
Yes i have bills to pay .. food to cook & eat So why has your illness just impeded you from posting on here? Because it becomes head consuming & being ill like to switch off & go to bed without trolls like you to deal with |
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Brassneck do you honestly think if someone had the "key to the door" beating betfair continually they would be posting it on here lol
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You're searching for a holy grail that doesn't exist, the bots that control the exchange are based on fairly sophisticated data from football matches going back years which are as close to the perfect bettor as it gets. It's like trying to take down a castles defences clutching a pea shooter and asking someone for a processed pea to blow into the air when the wind gets up- the implied simplicity is utterly ridiculous
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its easy to win on betfair if you martingale overs on Argentinian football and you can mass a few hundred grand before long but the risk is always there that some day there will be goals in 6 or 7 consective games,but that's only an edge,i want the E=MCX2 formula.
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A millionaire gambler who wants advice gambling:laugh:]
The only thing you want is some extra man power to help pull the numerous catches up onto the trawler night night brassneck. |
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Martingale is never an edge , its just dodging bullets and if you were as experienced as you claim you would know this.
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Agreed. I don't think it exists and if it did you wouldn't be getting it. The interesting thing is you post about the psychology and yet you want formulas. The psychology may be that you're lazy and you want an easy edge. Some people have had an easy edge over the years. The fast pics crew for example. Outside of that the edge comes with hard work. You have to make yourself an expert. Better than the rest if you can in whatever field you choose to make yourself an expert in. Even so until you learn discipline you will still lose.
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brassneck is one to be ignored from now on.
Sad that I've felt the need to point that out. |
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I am very very close to the holy grail,i am within touching distance but I need the key to open a small lock into the final room,and I know its lying around in someone's head.
And someone will let it slip into my grasp very very soon.  |
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Google slicers bet and enjoy .. it has the same credibility this thread has
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Is this some kind of metaphor?
Are you trying to get yourself sectioned and are looking for advice? |
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Albert Einstein walked to work for 35 years thinking about E=MCX2 and then one day on his way to work he says to himself "I fecking have it"and he did have it.
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Yep. And look at that cnunt jumping in and out of the bath until he shouted uranus or something like that.
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If you read the forum for the past few years the general trend is that no one has any kind of edge. There are ridiculous posters like Kelly betting on everything there is claiming credit when one comes in and the rest all fail along with people betting on 1.01 odds in a womens match he believes the goalkeeper may be on her period making her liable to concede goals. The "dead certs" fail with regular expected ratios year in year out and when a bet doesn't come in the poster has either greened out, the match is fixed or "they will never bet on that league again".
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He didn't .. Einstein was given his info .. he really wasn't that smart
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All I ask is there someone out there in betfair land that can beat betfair without relying on lady luck.?
it seems a reasonable question .I am not breaking any rules ,all I am doing is trying to find the perfect system. how can I be wrong if I ask a question. NOBODY can be wrong if they are asking a question ,and that's all I am doing. |