yep  two years for him haha  Erdthegoon  is just another warmonging muslim as far as I am concerned and they want to fast track the country into the eu

fkn madness

saudi the same - anyone noticed!!??  they have managed to make mincemeat of Aden.

can uk bomb if Russia put troops on ground

a mess is being kind

now kamaroon is telling us it will take years - we are being led by our fkn noses here - sack the lot of the politicoes
they haven't fkn clue

either bomb the sh!t out of them and clear them out with infantry and tanks or leave them alone

let not a single syrian, african or any other into europe and definitely not into the uk

Cost of doing eff all will be much higher than that. Keep this quote as well.

David Cameron says launching UK air strikes against Islamic State militants in Syria will "make us safer".

Must have missed the militants and hit an oil field by accident

And i'm sure it's been said many times before but i'll say it again: all this money that is spent on bombing where does it go to?

Apologies not what I meant.
I meant the actual costings for money spent on bombs, airplanes, military personnel, etc. Doing the job expenses.

*Yet

arms companies

I've worked for 9 of them.

Anyone want to buy a MG3?

Some of the best engineers in the world would end up on the dole ? Perhaps they could invent a new form of energy or build a base on the moon or make a betting exchange that actually works

"Some of the best engineers in the world would end up on the dole ?" Military research has provided many, often over looked, everyday benefits.

"Perhaps they could invent a new form of energy" They've done that before now.

"or build a base on the moon" Mars is the goal.

"or make a betting exchange that actually works" They can't do the impossible.

"We never have enough money for benefits, the NHS or the police" A lot more immigrants will certainly not help.

"But we get the chance to fight somebody else's war, we are never short" It's our war as much as anyone else's.

"Dorks lead this country" Stating the obvious but an alternative?

"If we cannot stop this civil war in Syria I doubt we will gain anything" It's more than a civil war, parts have been invaded by ******* ********"

"and yes there are going to be an increasing number of Syrian refugees, and a large number will end up in Europe and here!" Indeed.

Did the Syrian government invite Cameron to come and bomb their country? No! His act therefore is a criminal act against international law.

Should he be tried as a war criminal? Yes!

Will he ever be tried as a war criminal? No!

daesh were sponsored by the US amongst other

The arms industry is just glorified product design.
To develop new innovations and improved killing systems they have to get rid of the old. They have to sell them.
If nobody is using them then it's not sustainable to create new ones, and jobs are lost and more importantly to governments investment companies don't make profits.

Hammond said the other night that 'tonight Britain is safer' (following the vote by the MPs to bomb)
His timing couldn't have been more apt, around the same time Americas were getting shot up in America by what is now believed to be people linked to extremism....and nobody bombs like America.

the entire fkin government are criminals...murderers, not content with enormous numbers of disabled and jobless ending their lives, or just about scraping along on a pittance, he now decides to spend the money we werent supposed to have on war and yet more murder..those who shape the political agenda's of the world are sick, and i believe the 'west' are the ones who are the real criminals. Always have been since the 1950's.

This thread is such a mixture of conspiracy theorists, crass ignorance, barrack room lawyers mouthing off and nutjobs I think the forum mods only keep it up to laugh at. Where do people like you live?

I mean just picking from a very rich choice, look at this cr*p: "To develop new innovations and improved killing systems they have to get rid of the old."

No, it's because the countries are always competing. It's called progress, and you try to keep up or you lose. It's why they don't use muskets and biplanes.
It's why countries that still had cavalry got slaughtered by tanks and machine guns.
FFS.

You do know we are going to end up talking to daesh don't you.  You read it here first and amazingly from me of all people. The ISLAMAPHOBE(Courtesy of ebulgerry) and the TERRORIST SYMPATHISER (Kamroon).
We have been lied to about the 70 000 on the ground. They appear to only have just started bombing the crpp out of the oil instalations(do you know what this does)?And who was dealing in the oil!!??  Our fkn so called allies!! Who also bomb the kurds.
Daesh are the employers/paymasters in raqqa etc and the more damage you do, the more you degrade the civilian situation. No work, no money will make them even more resentful of the west and play right into the hands of daesh.
It is simple - more bombs more sympathy for daesh. After all they are all muslims but of different levels.
One expert in the UK has said there will now be more planes looking for less targets - they are not going to bomb civilians on purpose, but there will be collateral damage of course.
Now they have hit the main infrastructure in iraq and syria there will not be many targets, except a few bridges, some power points/lines, water supply  etc etc and these just mess up civilian life as much as damage daesh who are well dug in.

I have repeatedly said that if the west is serious they bomb and then go in with tanks and troops, otherwise it is a waste of time. As I have said before Daesh have moved HQ to lybia anyway.  Up till now the US has done 95 percent of the bombing with 8500 strikes overall - where has it got them ??  Perhaps some movement in Iraq but the front seems rather quiet and not much advance anywhere lately.

We also have major problems of getting the sunnis on side because they fear the shia militia more in iraq for starters.

But this is a joke to say join a bombing war to make us safe frome an attack by daesh - oh please hold me up - 1000s of miles away - yeah sure
The danger comes from mainly inside the UK and europe with 450 trained returnees walking the streets and an organisation urging support for the caliphate as it tours the uk promoting this nasty ideology.

what about Afghanistan? Coalition talked in the end with the Talban, be the same with isis.
Why dont they clear Iraq with ground troops? Seem not too bothered about isis in iraq, prefering to meddle in Putins sphere of influence