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Joe Loss next,then Mantovani.
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Maybe im naïve but what I cant understand is how so many of these people in the same circles would have been into the same perversion?
I mean abusing kids must thankfully only appeal to a very small percentage of people less than 1% surely but if these stories are correct most of the BBC & Tory party seemed to be at it. How would you even mention that to other people to get involved its hardly the sort of thing you'd say over a dinner table & its hard to believe so many ordinary people like security guards etc would cover that time of crimes up.I certainly couldn't sleep at night if I turned a blind eye to crimes against children. |
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Maybe, someone finds nonces, then puts them into positions of power knowing they will forever be at their beck and call. Excuse me while I find my tin foil hat, coat and scarf.
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A bit like in Godfather 2 where the politician wakes up next to a dead hooker then completely changes his opinion of those friends of ours!
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Leopard, what you mean to say therefore is that on the allegations alone they may suggest hes a nonce, before they have been tested.
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I mean abusing kids must thankfully only appeal to a very small percentage of people less than 1% surely Would be astonishing if such a small percentage of people found it physically impossible to countenance something that was commonplace so relatively recently. ______________________________________________________________________________ A general great shift in social and legal attitudes toward issues of sex took place in the modern era and beliefs on the appropriate age below which girls should not be permitted to engage in sexual activity drifted toward adulthood. While ages from 10 to 13 were typically regarded as acceptable ages for sexual consent in Western countries during the mid-19th century,[1] by the end of the 19th century changing attitudes towards sexuality and childhood resulted in the raising of the age of consent.[4] The English common law had traditionally set the age of consent within the range of 10 to 12, but in 1875 the age was raised to 13. After intense sensational media revelations about the scourge of under-age prostitution in London in the 1880s caused respectable middle-class outrage, the age of consent was raised to 16 in 1885. Early feminists of the Social Purity movement such as Josephine Butler and others, instrumental in securing the repeal of the Contagious Diseases Acts, began to turn towards the problem of child prostitution by the end of the 1870s. The investigative journalist William Thomas Stead of the Pall Mall Gazette was pivotal in exposing the problem of child prostitution in the London underworld through a publicity stunt. In 1885 he "purchased" one victim, Eliza Armstrong the 13-year-old daughter of a chimney sweep, for £5 and took her to a brothel where she was drugged. He then published a series of four exposés entitled The Maiden Tribute of Modern Babylon, which shocked its readers with tales of child prostitution and the abduction, procurement and sale of young English virgins to Continental "pleasure palaces". The "Maiden Tribute" was an instant hit with the public. Victorian society was thrown into an uproar about prostitution. Fearing riots on a national scale, the Home Secretary, Sir William Harcourt pleaded in vain with Stead to cease publication of the articles. A wide variety of reform groups held protest meetings and marched together to Hyde Park demanding that the age of consent be raised. The government was forced to pass the Criminal Law Amendment Act 1885 that raised the age of consent to 16 and clamped down on prostitution.[7] In the United States, as late as the 1880s most States set the minimum age at 10–12, (in Delaware it was 7 in 1895).[8] Inspired by the "Maiden Tribute" female reformers in the US initiated their own campaign[9] which petitioned legislators to raise the legal minimum age to at least 16, with the ultimate goal to raise the age to 18. The campaign was successful, with almost all states raising the minimum age to 16–18 years by 1920.[4][10] In France, Portugal, Denmark and the Swiss cantons and other countries, the minimum age was raised to between 13 and 16 years in the following decades.[4] Though the original arguments for raising the age of consent were based on morality, since then the raison d'être of the laws has changed to child welfare and a so-called right to childhood or innocence.[11] In France, under the Napoleonic Code the age of consent was set in 1832 at 11,[12] and was raised to 13 in 1863.[13] It was increased to 15 in 1945.[14] In Spain, it was set in 1822 at "puberty age",[15] and changed to 12 in 1870,[16] which was kept until 1999, when it became 13;[17][18] and in 2015 it was raised to 16.[19][20][21] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent |
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Interesting report on Channel 4 news now.
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good stuff leopard. don't be dissuaded.
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Here is a Newsnight report about Cyril Smith and how police investigations were shut down.
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^ on delay.
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Coming up in about 12 minutes on CH4+1
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what amuses me about the trial by kangaroo court is that if it was so widely known that saville was a monster and the number of abuses were so industrialised then how come Leeds was on shut down on the day of his body taken through the streets?
And where did all those well wishes go when people started shouting loudly after he was buried? The ones that turned up in such numbers that his body laid in state for 3 days longer than was planned because so many wanted to pay their respects? How fickle folk are. |
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They were just ill-informed.
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weekends at chequers ?
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sAVILLE TRYING TO ERXPLAIN HE lIKES THE jUGS ,TED LOOKS CONFUSED
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No, he's saying, " Ted , the rozzers are on to me, put in a good word or I will send some photos to NoTW of you and that boy I sent you last week "
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...good stuff desp.
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ta egner. almost nobody understands that point ( prob 'cos they are part of the '90% - 98%' !). It's lonely being so right
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Maybe the Sunday papers tomorrow will have something new but it looks desperately thin so far.
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meanwhile eastern europeans continue to traffick young girls and muslim led gangs run amok in most cities.
Super diversion these pursuits of dead men are. |
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Ted Heath's reputation is a brick in the wall of the corrupt establishment.
Take out that brick and more bricks will fall. The traffickers and gang rapists can still be confronted at the same time. David Mellor was defending Ted Heath on LBC this morning as he defended Leon Britten. Ken Livingstone did not try stop him, he is one of them now. |
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Birds of a feather etc etc
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Daily Mail :
Near end of piece : A few days ago, a second retired police officer contacted this newspaper. Though because of the sensitive nature of the unfolding investigation he did not want to be named, he recalled being at a CID course at the Hendon police college in June 1978 — the time that Heath was embarking on the first youth orchestra tour. His class was being addressed by a lawyer from the office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (then Sir Thomas Hetherington). The speaker having invited questions from the floor, one officer, known to be a detective sergeant in Special Branch — the police arm of the security services — stood up and asked: ‘As we have a file on Edward Heath, why hasn’t he been prosecuted for young boys?’ The man from the DPP hastily ducked the question, the former detective recalls. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3189951/A-vanished-file-troubling-claims-Heath-young-musicians-s-no-smoking-gun-week-shocking-headlines-Mail-s-unearthed-fresh-allegations.html#ixzz3iGlpDYKK Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook |
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3189951/A-vanished-file-troubling-claims-Heath-young-musicians-s-no-smoking-gun-week-shocking-headlines-Mail-s-unearthed-fresh-allegations.html |
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I have no idea. Would have thought Heath was too frigid for human contact. Nothing convincing so far. Beginning to lose faith in many of you.
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Frigid is just a cover for why he had no girlfriends.....why didn't MI5 expose him....because they were worried he had higher up friends, also paedophiles who could make them disappear.
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I, really, have no idea. He always seemed asexual. Haven't been surprised by any exposed so far. A picture would nail it.
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https://theneedleblog.wordpress.com/2014/09/12/edward-heath-the-paedophile-prime-minister/
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Absolutely incredible all this, almost surreal.
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@curious-cat's link seems to be mainly based around Times reports of allegations that Heath was in photos with an adult woman -- which even if they did exist (and this is denied by the woman) is hardly evidence of a liking for underage boys.
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You just nailed it. You said that people have yet to make a judgement. Quite right I'm yet to make a judgement, because that's the correct way to do things. There is plenty of investigation now and if there if firm evidence it will lead to something. It's not your place nor mine to hold a jumped up trial of innuendo. I find the question that should be asked of all these people who could not possibly know the truth yet have decided on guilt before the evidence is heard and tested is , 'would you like this to be true?' The answer would be 'absolutely' in most cases, because it empowers their narrative of the ever more elaborate story where any defence is simple scoffed at and the story becomes even more elaborate to compensate. Their mins are made up. I'm still awaiting to see what happens to cliff Richard. That was a banker apparently. |
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So to be absolutely clear leopard, are you saying Ken livingstone is complicit because he didn't actively shout down mellor while he defended against unproven out of court allegations?
I'm sorry to say this leopard because seemed a decent enough sort, but you are far too heavily invested in something you don't even know whether is true. For those who have bought into this conspiracy as fact remember this; However heinous the act, every individual has the right to defend themselves. If the notion goes that all this was avoided by stimying any prosecution while they were alive (however fanciful) it still doesn't take away this fact. |
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*obviously death sort of does, but others still can put together a defence
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EDWARD HEATH fixed it for Jimmy Savile to receive a top royal honour and attended meetings of the infamous Paedophile Information ...
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The secret service are in this up to their necks.
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