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By:
spellingandgrammarchecker
When: 23 Jul 15 21:14
I used to work for Bacofoil.

The lathes, 3 of them, held steel rollers that rolled out aluminium foil, and the slightest dent meant that the whole roller had to be skimmed by thousandths of an inch.

It was all done by computer, but had to be cleaned manually.

Those rollers weighed 3,200 kgs each, so you imagine the power of the motor turning the chuck.

When it was time to clean the lathe you had to call the electrician, who cut all power to the machine, and had to sign a docket to say he had done so, before you started.

It was a sackable offence to start with no signature.

That's how Health and Safety should be done, and that was back in the mid-1970s.
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TheBetterBettor
When: 23 Jul 15 21:44
No doubt if he killed him with his car, he would have got less...

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/neath-death-crash-greg-flowers-8925478

Teaching assistant given suspended sentence for causing death by careless driving of motorcyclist in Neath crash

    13:04, 26 March 2015
    By Robin Turner

A teaching assistant who caused the death of a popular probation officer in a road accident has been spared an immediate jail term


The son of a motorcyclist who died in a crash has spoken of the devastation of losing both parents, as a teaching assistant was given a suspended sentence for causing his father’s death by careless driving.

Teaching assistant Nicola Ann Rees was on Thursday given a 12-month jail term, suspended for 18 months, after admitting causing the death by careless driving of Greg Flowers in a head-on road crash near Neath.

Rees, 51, was also disqualified from driving for 18 months and ordered to pay £1,000 towards prosecution costs.
Appalling impact

Judge Paul Thomas told Rees, a former pub landlady, “a brief moment of uncharacteristically poor driving” by her had an appalling impact on the lives of many people.

Dimitris Legakis/Athena Pictures Nicola Rees outside Swansea Crown Court
Nicola Rees outside Swansea Crown Court

Ian Wright, prosecuting at Swansea Crown Court, had earlier told the court a sudden overtaking manoeuvre by Rees in her Renault Clio on the A4109 at Aberdulais on October 16, 2013, led to the death of probation officer Mr Flowers, 40, of Crynant, Neath.

The father of three, who was travelling in the opposite direction, was thrown from his Suzuki motorcycle and was pronounced dead at the scene with devastating injuries.

Rees, of Abercrave, who was left bloodied and dazed, was taken to hospital on a spinal board but was later released.

She wept in the dock as Mr Flowers’ son Kyle, 22, read a moving victim impact statement before sentence was passed at Swansea Crown Court.

In it he said he would never be able to forgive Rees for taking away “his idol” who had supported him through the death of his mother, Mr Flowers’ first wife, some years ago.
'Each day is a struggle'

He added he wanted to see the defendant jailed “for a long, long time” so she could experience some of the pain he and his family were going through.


Mr Flowers said: “On October 16, 2013, on a normal working day, I got the life-changing phone call. I just couldn’t come to terms with the fact my last remaining parent had gone through no fault of his own... would we be able to cope with another death?

“I immediately felt anger that the man who had brought us up and supported us through the devastating death of my mother some years ago had been taken away. He was my best friend who I feel completely lost without, he was my idol.

“I find each day a struggle. He’s already missed so much of my life.

“I will never be able to forgive Nicola Rees. I believe she should be sent to prison for a long, long time.”

After passing a suspended sentence, Judge Thomas said to Mr Flowers’ family he accepted it was a sentence which was “not one some of you would have wished”.
'A well loved man'

However he said the court had accepted the defendant’s actions amounted to carelessness not dangerousness and added: “Mrs Rees will wake up for the rest of her life I suppose with this incident on her mind.”

Rees, who works at Maesydderwen Comprehensive School in Ystradgynlais in the Swansea Valley, entered a guilty plea to causing death by careless driving on the fifth day of her trial earlier this week.

Swansea Crown Court

She had denied charges of causing Mr Flowers’ death by dangerous driving and an alternative of causing death by careless driving and her decision to admit the lesser charge was accepted by the prosecution.

She was formally acquitted of the more serious charge.

It emerged her partner Andrew Challenger, who was first on the scene of the accident, is head of driver education at the Welsh Ambulance Service and an adviser for driver training (ambulances) across the UK.

Judge Thomas said: “Mr Flowers was a well loved and respected man whose life was ended prematurely.”

And he told Rees: “Mr Flowers did not materialise at that spot out of thin air he was there to be seen and ought to have been seen before you pulled out.”
By:
TheBetterBettor
When: 23 Jul 15 21:49
^^^ also former footballer scott sellars got a suspended sentence for killing a motocyclist because he admitted he fell asleep at the wheel.
By:
HonkyJoe
When: 23 Jul 15 21:50
In fairness TBB, there's a big difference between one motorist who goes a little crazy for a brief moment and accidentally kills somebody, and a firm that, day in and day out, pays absolutely no regard to very important H&S guidelines, and who allows virtually untrained youngsters to take massive risks with their lives.
By:
TheBetterBettor
When: 23 Jul 15 23:18
still....no jail time.
By:
HonkyJoe
When: 23 Jul 15 23:23
Some do get jailed though. Some of them footballers - Lee Hughes, for example.
By:
HonkyJoe
When: 23 Jul 15 23:24
He got six years (well, three effectively).
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