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Loved last weeks show. Best programme on TV
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I keep confusing this show for the BBC britains lost masterpieces show!
Which is reallly annoying, I should know about masterpieces, I spent my life savings on a Renoir from a cash poor Nigerian prince who happend to email me a couple of years ago! |
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WOW! JC, the Renoir is a Tryptich and I've purchased the other two.(had to get a second mortgage)
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Oh dear, chit chat's favourite BBC programme tackling a mixed race and slavery subject this week.
Now take your diversity medicine, it won't hurt, there there |
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Admittedly the expected slight over-egging of the pudding, but a fine episode imo.
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London's art thieves will be replaying the scene of Philip Mould keying in the entry code to his gallery.
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Was only half-watching it last night, but did I hear Big Phil repeatedly shout "Feck it! Feck it!" at one point?
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Ah, just looked it up. Fecit, apparently. Latin for He made.
41:33 on iPlayer https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0bj6gm7/fake-or-fortune-series-7-4-a-double-whodunnit |
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Giacometti tonight. I think this is the one that was held over from the last series so it will be interesting to find out why, assuming they tell us.
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i can see the appeal of a nice oil on canvas, but no matter how many times i looked at the giacometti
i just didnt get it. |
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i remember other kids making stuff like that at school,
we were too busy flicking clay to make anything even that interesting. there were some talented artists as well. |
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Slightly disappointing to leave it open-ended.
@donny osmond -- yes, it is quite likely there are many potential artists who for one reason or another never make it to art school. |
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New series starts next week, Thursday 25th July at 9pm.
Fiona Bruce and Philip Mould investigate more potentially valuable works of art. They begin with an 18th-century landscape that could be a lost work by of one of the biggest names in British art, Thomas Gainsborough. The painting has been in the family of owner Mark Cropper for generations and until the 1970s it was considered to be a Gainsborough. But then a valuation downgraded it and Mark's father tore off the Gainsborough label in disgust. Now Mark would love to be able to re-apply the Gainsborough plaque. https://www.radiotimes.com/tv-programme/e/h6dvn4/fake-or-fortune--s8-e1-the-lost-gainsborough/ |
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Forgot to watch Thursday but thanks to iplayer...
s8e1 Thomas Gainsborough, The Gypsies, or "the lost Gainsborough" which was the original for a famous print. No spoilers ... a rollercoaster ride. Is it by Gainsborough, or Barker of Bath, or someone else? One complication is that Philip helped establish a different painting as The Gypsies, some 20 years back, but this one ... and there are stunning infra=red and X-ray discoveries. |
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Sadly we always knew the final answer to this weeks programe when they interviewed the son of the dealer who sold the " original " 40 years ago, he was asked how sure are you that the one your father sold was the real thing, he was emphatic it was genuine, do you think he would have allowed his appearence to be shown if the portrait being investigated was shown to be the real one !
Poor by the BBC if they thought they had people hooked till the death, saying that it was still very interesting to watch. |
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For a minute I thought it was about Bojo and his bluster and bravado on optimism and jam tomorrow post Brexit.
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It can't have been Philip Mould's favourite episode. It started by questioning his attribution of the first painting 20 years ago, and ended with the expert (by implication) casting aspersions on Philip's connoisseurship.
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Not the same without Bendor.
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Bendor is sorely missed, :Diferent Gravy 12.
When Bendor said he'd seen something, you knew it was probably true. When Fiona says she has made an important discovery, we all suspect this was around the time a BBC researcher shoved the relevant document under her nose. Not to mention Bendor is posher than the Queen, and named after a 19th Century Derby winner. |
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Just seen this thread ... Got Excited, as I thought it was back, and would be on tonight (Sunday) as it always used to be .
Will have to make a reminder for next Thursday and onward, then. |
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Do you think Mrs Mould knows she has her own 'bendor'?
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First two program's seem to revolve around the presenter Phillip Mould, firstly the provenance of the painting last week because of another almost identical painting that he said was the genuine one then this week he spots a painting he was sure was a Lawrence but the owners thought otherwise, almost like the BBC just want to big him up, this weeks show imo was pretty slow.
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Haven’t watched this yet, so I’m not looking closely at this thread.
It doesn’t seem right to show it on a Thursday. I shall watch it on a Sunday ![]() |
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Has she ever been to a Pizza Hut?
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Ep 2 Cosway or Lawrence
A good episode imo. Unlike @pumphol, I liked the fact this quest started with Philip Mould having spotted a painting on the wall at a party of some sort. Highlights included: Fiona's voice being very weak in one scene, presumably filmed while she had a cold or similar. A posh golf club that looked like an art gallery. Philip's dog, Cedric. Tea at Fortnums. Valuations of £8,000 if Philip was wrong (Cosway) or £500,000 if he was right (Lawrence). Though was it just me who thought the hair looked wrong in the portrait? |
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Not a fan of effete young men (Honest gov!!), but I thought it was a great picture whoever painted it. I actually liked the hair, particularly under x-ray
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"Valuations of £8,000 if Philip was wrong (Cosway) or £500,000 if he was right (Lawrence)"
Well I would have taken 1/100 "Phil was right " be interested to see in future episodes if he is seen to actually get it "wrong " |
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The hair reminded me of a young James Harries who by coincidence is about as effete as one could be.
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s8ep3 Giorgio de Chirico
It seemed a bit flat this week, and needed more of Fiona speaking Italian (without the English voiceover). |
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s8ep4 A view of Venice by either Francesco Guardi (£10 million) or Michele Marieschi (£500,000). First world problems!
That was unexpected. Not for the first time this series, the programme suffered from an omnipresent owner. |
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s8ep4 A view of Venice by either Francesco Guardi (£10 million) or Michele Marieschi (£500,000). First world problems!
or (c) an unknown British dauber worth at best £20,000 ![]() |
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Last night's repeat of the Giacometti Gazing Head sculpture had an updated ending.
When the experts cleaned off the polyfilla and paint grandad had fixed it with after the family moggy knocked it over, they noticed the silly old fool had covered up the signature: Alberto Giacometti, 1928. It has since been sold at Christies for £587,250. Here is the Christie's page for this lot. https://www.christies.com/lotfinder/sculptures-statues-figures/alberto-giacometti-tete-qui-regarde-6190962-details.aspx |