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Aftertiming, of course, but seemed to me obvious this was not authentic from about 15 mins in. The authenticated Rodin Cambodian dancer sketches are not as well executed - the faker did too good a job (which, for me, probably rules out Durig).
Most of this edition was filler, and largely a waste of time. |
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spellingandgrammarcheck - 'I've got a fake Rolex that cost a fiver in Hong Kong about 15/16 years ago.
Keeps perfect time, and looks so good that a Mancunian lad at the Grand National meeting a few years ago, wanted to buy it from me. He was with 4 mates, and I didn't fancy getting my head kicked in after racing, so I told him how to spot the difference. I get the battery changed at a stall in the local market, as no jewellery shop will do it.' spellingandgrammarcheck - I bet you the battery cost more than the watch! |
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...does the real rolex have a smooth sweeping second hand. ??
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Love the program ...cos I'm cultured ...know wot I mean
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dont think a manc would murder you for giving you a handful of dodgey 20,s,
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Was this on last weekend? Cant find ep 4 ??
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It wasn't on, Padlock.
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Ok thx for info,i was abroad lastweek ...
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Back on Sunday 9pm BBC 1.
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Portraits Fiona Bruce and art expert Philip Mould try to uncover the truth behind three mysterious portraits. The paintings in question are that of a child, thought to have been painted by modern artist Willem de Kooning, the image of a lady, considered the work of 18th-century society painter Philip Mercier, and a portrait of an old general, attributed to the 19th-century German master Adolph von Menzel. The investigation forces the duo to embark on a worldwide quest, taking them from Miami, Florida, to Berlin and a small town in Belgium. Last in the series.
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Really looking forward to it. It will be very relaxing after all the excitement of Rio.
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9pm tonight (unless Rio overruns, presumably).
From the Radio Times blurb: ... three mysterious portraits. The paintings in question are that of a child, thought to have been painted by modern artist Willem de Kooning, the image of a lady, considered the work of 18th-century society painter Philip Mercier, and a portrait of an old general, attributed to the 19th-century German master Adolph von Menzel. http://www.radiotimes.com/tv-programme/e/fbhb8g/fake-or-fortune--s5-e4-portraits |
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This was really good. Don't forget to watch it if you missed it last night.
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Any programme featuring Fiona Bruce speaking French is a must see in my book
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I love Fiona
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The portrait of the old general put me in mind of the first Dr Who. I think it was the hair and the angle of the face.
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What did seem odd was the three-way conversation with the German expert, who spoke in German, and Bendor and the owner, in English.
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The old general one looked more like a Native American to me.
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New series starts this Sunday - BBC1 7.05pm.
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That was the best one yet!
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Bring back Bendor!
It shows what an eye Philip Mould has, that he had been convinced by this painting decades ago even though he could not prove it, My lingering doubt was that provenance stopped at Thomas Barratt ("the father of modern advertsing") of Pear's Soap but then, right at the end, the expert took it back to Christie's and Constable's son. |
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^ Perhaps the programmes's producer, and researchers, did it that way to add a bit more theatre to the final decision.... they having continued the provenance search all the way themselves - (off camera, though)
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Entirely possible, though of course these are experts.
The only false note is Fiona telling Philip (and Bendor) what ... well, anything at all really. Don't get me wrong -- I like Fiona as a presenter but suspect a man who has been one of London's top art dealers for at least 20 years probably knows a bit more about the game than she does. |
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Bendor is the super-sleuth.
Much missed if he has been dropped from the show. |
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Can't believe they'd give Bendor the Spanish Archer. Always reminded me of a youthful Sherlock Holmes, processing the facts before announcing the fait accompli.
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Bendor did front a similar, spin-off show a little while back, looking for sleepers in public art collections, now you come to mention it.
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Fake or Fortune goes to Australia on Sunday.
Fiona Bruce and art expert Philip Mould travel to Australia to verify whether a painting bought from an English auction site is a lost work by impressionist Tom Roberts, one of the country's most important artists. The owners have fallen on hard times, and desperately need to prove the painting is genuine. The investigation leads them to retrace the time Roberts spent in Britain and uncovers some alarming forgeries. |
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Tom Roberts. Joe, the owner, seemed like a broken man. He'd fallen a long way: once mayor, now bankrupt and apparently homeless. High stakes on paper but tbh I soon got bored of him moping through the programme. Rosanna was more animated but was a foil for Philip Mould, as she enthusiastically echoed back whatever he'd just told her. Better than his addressing every remark to Fiona or just the camera, I suppose. Bendor should return -- the programme needs the variety of the third presenter.
The use of graphics to emphasise and clarify the brush strokes was a nice touch. A nice travelogue for Australia, as well. And that restaurant was stunning. |
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One bendor in this show is enough
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One bendor in this show is enough
Eh? Bendor is not on the show this series: that's the complaint. I believe he may return on the spin-off programme. |
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Joe, the owner needed to grow a pair. Him and his wife were both working, able to rent a house and appeared to be well dressed and groomed. Loss of status appeared to be the reason he was walking round with a face like a smacked @rse. He had a lovely wife and family but still wanted to be a big shot.
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One thing that struck me was the painting had been sent from Australia directly to Philip at his gallery in Mayfair, rather than going via the BBC: probably safer that way.
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bet when it goes on sale the auctioneer doesn't say the RENOWNEWD TOM ROBERTS EXPERT THINKS THE PAINTING OF THE MAN IN THIS PICTURE IS ABSOLUTE SHOITE,
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When Fiona interviewed the deciding lady expert, at the end of the show - the Expert's all round negativity towards the painting, often emphasised, would have sent Fake to around 1.3 were there a Market on here.
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Gauguin tonight. Two of them.
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September 10th edition
Opening show. 8/15 Fake - The Sketch 8/11 Fake - The Painting. However -I would imagine- given the programme format - One will be Fake, and one authentic. |
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Evens - The Sketch
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That escalated quickly: the Nazis' Black Book or Sonderfahndungsliste G.B.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book |
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@onlooker -- However -I would imagine- given the programme format - One will be Fake, and one authentic.
I don't think it works like that. The BBC can't know the outcome in advance, when it selects the paintings for investigation, surely? |