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crusader2
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Does anyone seriously believe that the audience was a random cross section of the British electorate? I cant have it under any circumstances. I suppose the difficulty is the only people who would wish / agree to form the audience are not representative of the majority / norm.

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By:
treble
When: 17 Apr 15 23:02
Always the same with the the BBC. They can't abide any right wing views. They wanted Clarkson out for ages due to his.
By:
going skint
When: 17 Apr 15 23:31
in the warped world of the bbc the snp are very popular in london
maybe they should field a few candidates in london
By:
broadsword
When: 17 Apr 15 23:47
what a glorious day it will be when the good old beeb is SHUT DOWN............i just hope im here to see it
By:
going skint
When: 17 Apr 15 23:56
paying for a tv license is really a forced donation to a political party.
the liberal,leftie,ethnic loving,shirtlifting party
By:
boxingthefox
When: 17 Apr 15 23:58
A rancid incestuous bunch of freeloaders, make them pay their own way.
By:
Sica Dan
When: 18 Apr 15 00:05
The BBC is Hideously Leftist.
By:
Facts
When: 18 Apr 15 01:07
crusader2     17 Apr 15 22:53 
Does anyone seriously believe that the audience was a random cross section of the British electorate? I cant have it under any circumstances. I suppose the difficulty is the only people who would wish / agree to form the audience are not representative of the majority / norm.



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By:
The Special One™
When: 18 Apr 15 01:42
That audience was picked by an independant body not the BBC, so nigelFATFACE lied to the whole nation when he accused the BBC of picking a "biased audience"
By:
naydam
When: 18 Apr 15 01:56
You're all so funny! Do you all (most) complain for a living?  LaughLaugh
By:
Ramruma
When: 18 Apr 15 02:03
Audience was picked by ICM not the BBC. Political make-up of the audience was in these proportions:

5 Labour
5 Conservative
4 LibDem
3 UKIP
2 SNP
2 Green
1 Plaid Cymru

The need for SNP and Plaid Cymru supporters is why, as the Daily Mail complained, some had to be bussed in from Scotland and Wales. The Mail omitted mention of any UKIP members, and the Express counted all non-Conservative/UKIP as left-wing, which ignores the fact that the LibDems are in government with the Tories. On the above figures, both Labour and Conservatives are under-represented, and UKIP are over-represented.
By:
breadnbutter
When: 18 Apr 15 02:56
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/571294/Nigel-Farage-Ukip-BBC-debate-fixed-Question-Time
By:
Facts
When: 18 Apr 15 04:05
Bias ?
The Express reported the audience incorrectly ( as stated in Ramruma's post )

Oh, and by the way -
The proprietor of The Daily Express  has just given £1 million to UKIP !!
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 18 Apr 15 09:34
Easy for the bbc to pass the buck onto a company that wants the bbc's business.

If it was a fair audience how come ukip did not receive one clap during the whole show, and a scottish party got loads ?
By:
lfc1971
When: 18 Apr 15 09:43
It could be something to do with the character of UKIP supporters being more civil and introspective and preferring to listen to the debate than say Labour or certainly SNP supporters.
By:
Facts
When: 18 Apr 15 09:47
Or, even UKIP supporters in the audience couldn't believe the utterly inept performance of the pub bore.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 18 Apr 15 09:49
they would still clap facts.

People were being applauded for saying spend, spend, spend with no reasoning on how this will be funded.
By:
lfc1971
When: 18 Apr 15 09:50
The point is the BBC may very well have chosen a fair selection but there may be a difference in the character of the different partys supporters...a select rabble will always make itself heard.
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 18 Apr 15 09:53
The debate took place in London.
London is a foreign city bursting with immigrants.
Its now rock solid Labour.

Labour is the party of immigrants and middle class liberals,they despise the English working class.

UKIP are the the only party standing up for the working class.
Nigel Farage is the only one speaking on their behalf.
By:
lfc1971
When: 18 Apr 15 10:00
I think its interesting really, when listening to these live debates it may be useful to pay more attention to the parties that get the less ethusive support...I think it was Cicero who when giving a speech in ancient Rome and receiving a great reaction from the public turned to his friend and said " What is wrong have I said something stupid"
By:
lfc1971
When: 18 Apr 15 10:12
The audience was picked by an independent body but of course these will be highly paid experts and my be incompetent with no actual skills..

Now if they were to say it would be better if there was a ratio of 5 UKIP supporters to say every 2 SNP and 2 Labour, simply because UKIP supporters tend to be more civil and charming than the rest we might get a fairer perspective.
By:
naydam
When: 18 Apr 15 10:16
What does it matter? Nigel nailed it when he pointed out that the "audience" were, actually, the people at home.
By:
wit-ham
When: 18 Apr 15 10:32
so if 10,00 people move here how many extra houses do you need to build,
extra doctors,extra nurse's,extra school places?.

Sturgeon, Milibland and all, OH Nigel blaming immigration again.
By:
wit-ham
When: 18 Apr 15 10:36
next answer Milibland Sturgeon and all

well with the increase in immigration we need to make sure
we train enough doctors ,nurses and build enough homes

yes you all seem to be a bit slower picking up the point that Nigel just made
but as Nigel said you done seem to understand basic arithmetic.
By:
wit-ham
When: 18 Apr 15 10:37
don't
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 18 Apr 15 10:37
why are talking in riddles, get to the point man
By:
mobo
When: 18 Apr 15 12:44
it has now been admitted the audience was heavily weighted to the left
By:
spellingandgrammarchecker
When: 18 Apr 15 12:47
fat bastards
By:
Facts
When: 18 Apr 15 12:50

it has now been admitted the audience was heavily weighted to the left



By whom ?
By:
donny osmond
When: 18 Apr 15 13:03
i thought there were supposed to be floating voters in there

it was more like a communist party rally

shame putin couldnt make it
By:
Facts
When: 18 Apr 15 13:26
Banal
By:
Just Checking
When: 18 Apr 15 18:14
So yes as everyone thought at the time, it was a biased audience.

"of the 200-strong audience, about 58 were Conservative or Ukip supporters while about 102 supported left-leaning parties - Labour, the Lib Dems, SNP, Plaid Cymru or the SNP – and the rest were undecided."

Mr Farage said: "If you were to put Ukip and the Conservatives on the centre-right in current opinion polls, we are on about 49 per cent between us. If the audience make-up didn't reflect that then it's wrong.”

So yes, pretty much 2:1 ratio of identified left leaning people in the audience despite the polls being about 50;50 and as noted correctly above by ramruma, an incredible ratio of 1:1 of the hard left Green + PC + SNP socialists (no doubt their obnoxious activist mob) to the tories. There is no way the ratios can be said to be representative of the UK. How many undecided .. were decided?
By:
Facts
When: 18 Apr 15 18:21
Er ......the Lib Dems are in a coalition with the Conservatives. hardly to be counted in the audience as left wing.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 18 Apr 15 18:21
lol
By:
Facts
When: 18 Apr 15 18:22
But it's all irrelevant anyway. Farage still made a complete tlt of himself as usual.
By:
Just Checking
When: 18 Apr 15 18:31
IMHO the audience should be told to shut the **** up or you're out, and then it would be irrelevant, it's pathetic that it's a sort of football match with lots of who can boo/cheer the loudest to try and swing opinion.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 18 Apr 15 18:50
I don't think there is any need for a studio audience, just do the debate in front of the cameras with pre-set questions and do not tip anyone off beforehand like they do on Question Time.
By:
wit-ham
When: 18 Apr 15 20:14
Never you mean QT has planted questionsWink
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 18 Apr 15 20:53
The audience has a great influence on the way a debate is perceived by onlookers.
Of course the BBC are well aware of that, and Farage was up against the rest of the panel and the audience.

It was reminiscent of the hatchet job the BBC did against Nick Griffin and more recently George Galloway.

I was dismayed to see Farage lining up with four lefties to be honest.
I though he got off quite lightly in the circumstances.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 18 Apr 15 20:57
No forgetting the subliminal message placing him on the far right of the panel.
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