the bbc get £168m from the EU, but get far more from the british public but they still treat the biggest payers with disdain.

Massive fan of the bbc but when it comes to politics they need to be neutral.

Imagine the uproar if instead of these things being stuffed to the gills with luvvies they stacked it full of people from the right? The howls of outrage would be like a pack of wolves barking at a full moon.

facts now wants to say it is irrelevant now - except of course it is relevant and it happened - audience was heavily weighted to the other parties as has been admitted by the bbc

facts doesn't like it pointed out

but then he is on their side anyway

^ why let reality get in the way of manic conspiracy theories by the Farage groupies

naydam 18 Apr 15 21:51
Farage was situated to the left of the group...not to the right, as previously mentioned!

depends on which side you are looking from
but he was on the right hand side of the tele
don't know if it was the same for radio

Facts   
18 Apr 15 21:21 
Why is there a big lovefest for the buffoon Farage ?

A much more significant question would be:

Why do the luvvies keep slagging his party off when he has no chance of being in control at No. 10? What are they afraid of?

Another luvvie will have to answer this as I'm one of the 'Magnificent Seven' that Facts has blocked.




Btw, to wander off the subject for a moment, I noticed this morning on the HR forum that Timeform Radio has ceased broadcasting.

One of the posters had started a thread just above it, 'Who would be your guest for the day on Timeform Radio'

Somebody posted 'Facts.'

And just after that somebody else posted words to the effect of 'No chance. His doctor at Rampton won't let him out for a full day.'

I think the BBC do a good job in pi$$ing off both sides of the political spectrum.

Don't forget this is the organisation who had that tree hugging wet Chris Patten at its head, who has for mer young Conservative Nick Robinson as it's political correspondent and who devoted acres of airtime t the funeral of Margaret Thatcher.

I think they need to keep in with the top brass of whatever political party is in charge in order to keep the license fee going.

Having said that it was blatantly obvious, without Nigel Farage having to mention it, that the audience for the debate gave him no support whatsoever. It seemed unfair and that was compounded by Danny Alexander getting away with the line about UKIP's 'disgusting' utterances in the debate completely unchallenged.

Whatever your politics, unfairness is just not on and Thursday night was unfair, bordering on manipulative for me.

& no political party will even dare to close them down with the power they have, but it needs to be done sooner rather than later.

What's this paranoid obsession with fox news?
We live in a country that also already have ITV and Channel 4.

Never understand why people mention fox news, are they an british news channel ?

Ibrahima Sonko     19 Apr 15 10:12 
Never understand why people mention fox news, are they an british news channel ?



Because it represents all that is wrong in journalism and reporting of news. It's tabloid paper equivalent. Lurid headlines and biased, dumb downed controversial statements. Bit like Sky news and anything to do with the Murdoch  empire.
But worse !

Anyone doubting the bias within the BBC only needs to watch Andrew Marr interviewing Cameron this morning, constantly interrupting and stopping the Prime Minister from answering to such a degree that he even said if you give me 30 seconds I shall answer you ! It is laughable to deny a bias exists within BBC news department.

how on earth do you know what my image of them is

The BBC has confirmed that the hand-picked audience for the opposition leaders’ debate was left leaning, despite claiming otherwise live on air.

Out of all the audience members who had declared a party allegiance, only three marked themselves down as UKIP out of a total of 22.

With five selected to represent the Conservatives, that means at best 36 per cent – just over a third – put their ideology as right-of-centre.

After persistent quizzing, the Daily Express managed to get the BBC and ICM to reveal how the audience members were chosen. It confirms that Nigel Farage was correct when he said those present at Westminster Central Hall were “a remarkable audience even by the left-wing standards of the BBC.”

Chairman David Dimbleby denied that claim. He said: “This is an audience that has been carefully chosen not by the BBC, but by an independent polling organisation to represent the balance between all parties.”

The audience was narrowed down to five supporters each for Labour and the Tories, four for the Liberal Democrats, three for UKIP, two each for the SNP and Greens and one for Plaid. In addition, one fifth of the audience was made up of ‘undecided voters’ from within a certain radius around Westminster.

This is not the first time the methodology of ICM, the polling company used by the BBC,  has been challenged.

Before the 2013 county council elections, which were considered the break through for UKIP, ICM had the party at nine per cent. Weeks later it romped home with an average of 26 per cent of the vote where it fielded candidates.

And ahead of the European Elections, where UKIP were the decisive victors, ICM had the party on 11 per cent support; less than half of what they polled a month later.

Farage’s attack on the audience came after he was booed for his views on immigration.

Labour leader Ed Miliband told the UKIP leader,  “It’s never a great idea to attack the audience, Nigel, in my opinion.” Farage replied “The real audience are sitting at home.”

However, statistics by Survation for the Daily Mirror after the debate showed the Conservatives did the best out of the night by not taking part, rising four percentage points, and of those present only Farage increased his party’s popularity, going up one point to 17 per cent.

Speaking after the findings, the UKIP leader said: “Sometimes these things go wrong, sometimes you get groups who apply to be on programmes who perhaps aren’t as truthful on their applications as they could be.

“In this case, the BBC gave the job to a polling company called ICM who are famous for getting everything about Ukip wrong and that I think was the mistake.”

And he told Breitbart London, “ICM got us wrong in 2013, wrong in 2014 and they’ve got us wrong again in 2015. The BBC needs to use a polling company with a better track record.”

“The night of the by-election that Douglas Carswell won in Clacton with a landslide, there was a Ukip representative – Patrick O’Flynn – on Question Time in Clacton and the audience were deeply hostile to him,” he added.

A spokesman from the BBC said: “All the broadcasters and the political parties agreed that the appropriate way to recruit audiences for debates was to ask a respected independent polling organisation to do the job on our behalf.

“That was the case for all the debates in 2010, for the Clegg/Farage debates last year, as well as for both the debates during this campaign – ICM has an established track record of recruiting the audiences for all these debates.”

ICM defended its recruitment process, saying it was “premised on orthodox random location selection techniques.”

It said 30 geographical areas were selected within a 20-mile radius of the venue, as well as a small number of SNP and Plaid Cymru supporters from Scotland and Wales.

Out of all the audience members who had declared a party allegiance, only three marked themselves down as UKIP out of a total of 22