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You're not very intelligent.
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thankyou.
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I prefer the sharpest criticism of a single intelligent man ...but the question remains.
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1. The question is not very intelligent.
2. Thank you is 2 words, not 1. 3. Voting is not a measure of intelligence. 4. I suspect that more than a single intelligent man may offer some sharp criticism, if they can be bothered. |
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the way we have been shafted over the years by various politicians begs the question if any of us are intelligent
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At no point does the question ask if voting is a measure of intelligence, if it was then very few would be allowed to vote and it would not be possible to ask the question in the first place...
the question remains. |
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The question is pointless. People over the entire range of intelligence vote for labour from the very stupid to university professors. The same no doubt applies to other major parties.
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Foinavon has pretty much nailed it there.
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Thanks Rob
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To try to answer the opening question.
It depends. If you actually thick enough to WANT the scandal of Rotherham (and many other Multicultural Paradise towns) repeated over the entire UK, schools and communities that breed Wannabe Terrorists, rampant FGM, Honour Killings, Forced Marriages, and a whole other exciting range of vibrant "cultural differences" to thrive here, then yes, by voting Labour you probably will secure it. |
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Yes agreed, intelligent people do vote labour but the question asks..are people who vote labour not very intelligent?...this is a different thing.
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alun2005 is getting to the point of the question.
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Is anybody who votes very intelligent
I will vote Labour so I suppose the cap fits, more importantly I vote Labour because I am not very well off The Tories only concern themselves with the better off, so I would stupid if I did not vote Labour Although I also oppose the Tories since Thatcher on moral grounds, I think society should be about something more than just personal greed which appears to be all the Tories have to offer ps People from all parties hate Muslims, that is not a political issue |
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ebul I am not sure you should be allowed to vote, on grounds of sanity
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Yes agreed, intelligent people do vote labour but the question asks..are people who vote labour not very intelligent?...this is a different thing.
It's beginning to sound as if your definition of an intelligent person is "someone who agrees with me" |
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certainly not Foinavon...I prefer people who make me stop and think oh, I hadn`t quite thought of that before.
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It doesn't happen very often sadly.
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As Oscar Wilde might have said "When someone on Chit Chat agrees with me I can
safely assume I was wrong" |
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exactly Sica..I think it was Cicero who when making a speech and receiving a great reaction from his fellow Romans turned to a friend and said what is wrong have I said something stupid.
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Or was it Tim Henman?
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Can`t recall anything Tim Henman ever said...wonderful tennis player however....this is not the point!
the question remains. |
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My apologies. Despite being one of the intelligentsia, I am always getting Wilde, Cicero and Henman mixed up.
Forgive me, I will withdraw from this fine and pertinent debate with my honour just about intact. |
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Nobody will look at the evidence of course.
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Thanks alun...(hope that's how you spell thanks)
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In general, the Conservatives appear to be much better at managing the economy than Labour.
Managing the economy better benefits all, not just the well off. We have to move towards a low tax economy, where business blooms and employers are encouraged to take on more staff and pay improves in real terms. People need to improve their skills to compete and find better paid jobs. I think those that you speak of are misguided, rather then less intelligent. |
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I like the question posed by lfc1971 - it's a general question. Of course there will be overlaps in the intelligence range of voters for different parties, so there will be a brainy X supporter clever than a thick Y supporter, but it can still be said that Y-ers are more intelligent than X-ers.
But how to measure intelligence? Common measures could be: 1- The IQ test, but a lot of people with high IQ have parents with high IQ and were surrounded by high IQ teachers and pupils. 2- Income. Skilled work , and management jobs pay more. We assume that unskilled workers are less intelligent for if they were more intelligent they'd be taking the skilled jobs. This is a possible angle. 3- Can you think for yourself. This is clear winner for me. If you can't think for yourself than you're unintelligent. And the seething from Labour Central that people have to register themselves to vote and make their own mind up now, rather than the old method of getting someone else to do it for them tells you what you need to know. |
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I can make my own mind up and am reasonably intelligent. I'll be voting UKIP, obviously.
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lfc1971 • February 23, 2015 3:20 PM GMT
ebul I am not sure you should be allowed to vote, on grounds of sanityHappy  |
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Alias is a labour activist. Kinda proves the OPs point.
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Stow_judge • February 23, 2015 4:56 PM GMT
In general, the Conservatives appear to be much better at managing the economy than Labour. Managing the economy better benefits all, not just the well off. We have to move towards a low tax economy, where business blooms and employers are encouraged to take on more staff and pay improves in real terms. People need to improve their skills to compete and find better paid jobs. I think those that you speak of are misguided, rather then less intelligent. Well I may have accepted this in the time Of Ted Heath, but not since Thatcher. Because the only thing the Tories do is to attack socialism. But from my observations in life, I do not think either socialism or capitalism is our problem. The problem is our own personal greed. Nobody in our society, from the either the top or bottom, will do anything for the good of society as a whole. Everything is always done out of personal greed and selfishness. That is what has brought us down, and we will continue to decline. We to need to change our whole ethos, be more like Germany, or we will continue to fail. Whether we go right or left. We are becoming a collection of individuals, not a society. just my own opinion |
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ebul
Don't forget that not long ago Germany was touted as the sick man of europe and the euro itself has at least in part been responsible for its renaissance. You also say that personal greed is our problem. I fundamentally disagree. There are millions of selfless people giving of their time for no/little reward in society. They are the heroes but the priorities of some especially in the media who bring us the news are skewed with the whole, "how big are your pecs or tiits or how good looking are you?" and if the answer to either question is very then of course your opinion however puerile must be of merit. Err no. I do want to take issue with the whole Thatcher thing you brought up. The denigrated speech she made about society specifically cited what we can do as people to help ourselves, help our family and help our neighbours. A laudable and aspirational message totally twisted for a political agenda by the left. |
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Of course people deemed intelligent vote Labour because they think it is moral but that doesn't mean they have any common sense or knowledge of history.
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If voting Tory means you have common sense or a knowledge of history, I'll gladly admit to being thick as sh!t.
Thatcher didn't give a fu ck about me or my neighbours. |
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Sadly true Mikael
specifically cited what we can do as people to help ourselves, help our family and help our neighbours. A laudable and aspirational message totally twisted for a political agenda by the left I am sure Thatcher wanted this, because these means that society as a whole no longer has any responsibility for those at the bottom or the more vulnerable of us. Which means the rich can now pay less tax and get even richer! Anyone buying this would have to be as thick as sh!t I am a socialist I believe society has a responsibility for everybody in society, but as I have said people in society also have some responsibility to society as a whole. Regretfully I do not always see the latter in this country. The last time Germany was described as the sick man of Europe was in the early 1930's. The fact that Germany is more socialist than us, yet patently out competes us, tells me socialism cannot be the problem. |
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usual suspects, usual racist b0ll0cks
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Don't talk shiite ebul. Germany was labelled by many people and respected economists as such at the beginning of this century and at least partly what saved it was the fact that the euro was at a lower rate than the Mark would have been because of southern europe thus helping to lead an export bonanza which helped draw it away from the rocks. I can give you many citations for this and I can assure you that sick man of europe and indeed basket case were terms frequently used at that time.
Where we fundamentally differ is you clearly have this view that society is a "thing". A force for good if you like. The point is that it is just a word which essentially refers to the people and it is the people who are responsible through their actions to make the country a better place. Once you foist responsibilities onto this non entity of society then people stop doing many of the things they would do if they were cognisant of the fact that they are responsible at a icro leve for making their area better. "Society" asa concept projects upwards peoples reponsibilities and when that happens there is always someone else to do what needs to be done. The problem being there never is. It's your responsibility to carry your burden and if you can do so comfortably it is also your responsibility to look around and see if you can help carry someone else's burden who is less able. |
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You should learn to be polite Eternal, the only thing I can say to you is speak **** yourself
If you think our economy is in a better state than Germany, dream on. We are a society, if you forget that we suffer. But you are just a greedy selfish Tory who does not give a **** about anybody but yourself I believe in socialism, society does have a responsibility for everyone in society and they in turn have a responsibility to society as a whole. |
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Well at least you've learned your lesson regarding your laughable assertion. I told you what Germany was called early in this century and now you are eating some humble pie so chow down. I didn't say we were in better shape than Germany. I said they have built their renaissance on the back of others. In the 50's it was us and the Americans. Recently it has been on the back of southern europe.
As for what I am you are incorrect. I'm neither Tory nor do I only care about myself. I just don't think your recipe for expecting others to do the heavy lifting is fair or doable. Look to yourself. If it needs doing get out there and help others. Don't expect others to do it and don't look to "society". |