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13 Jan 15 07:19
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Now the british media should reprint it.  Wouldnt be gratuitious or inflammatory it would be reporting the news.  If they dont print it now they are cowards.  Beeb just did a report and their man at the arc just described it while holding it down below the camera's view.  Pathetic.

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By:
Crisp77
When: 13 Jan 15 08:28
Maybe they don't want to be seen to be profiting from the situation.
By:
hitmanhearn
When: 13 Jan 15 08:28
They won't but I agree.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 13 Jan 15 08:37
Sensible imo, there are many nutcases out there who will use it as an excuse to attack us, probably somewher in London again, if the French are stupid enough to keep reprinting these cartoons then that's there look out and if there's another attack there, they'll be blood on their hands. For once I praise the English press for having brains and doing the right thing. A lot of people take the piss out of religion and religious people but they do it amongst themselves or behind closed doors, doing it in national publications is plain dumb.
By:
The Leopard
When: 13 Jan 15 08:42
The whole of Free-world media should put a picture of Mohammed on their front/main page and keep it there for a month...can't expect BBC to do it on their own.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 13 Jan 15 09:01
Newspapers around Europe, including Libération, Le Monde and Frankfurter Allgemeine have used the image online. The BBC showed it briefly during a newspaper review on Newsnight. In the US, the Washington Post, USA Today, LA Times, Wall Street Journal, The Daily Beast and CBS News ran the cover but the New York Times did not. In Australia, the ABC showed the image of the cartoon on its 24-hour rolling news programme but with a warning to viewers. The Guardian is running this cover as its news value warrants publication.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/jan/13/charlie-hebdo-cover-magazine-prophet-muhammad
By:
rob_dylan
When: 13 Jan 15 09:03
Well done the Guardian.  Showing 2 fingers to these stone age w@nkers.  Those weasel spined pooves at the Daily Mail didn't despite Richard Littlejohn banging on about suppression of free speech and censorship last week.  You're not being censored.  You're just being cowardly.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 13 Jan 15 09:08
The cartoon is now my background on my computer.
By:
The Leopard
When: 13 Jan 15 09:13
YES, WELL DONE GUARDIAN, BEST NEWS ORGANISATION IN THE WORLD !
By:
rob_dylan
When: 13 Jan 15 09:14
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/charlies-back--and-controversial-as-ever--as-its-staff-take-aim-at-powerful-new-friends-9974065.html

Independent has it.
Telegraph printed the text at the top.

Daily Mail has big time bottled it.  fkin pathetic.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 13 Jan 15 09:15
Can't see anything on the express or mirror websites.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 13 Jan 15 09:18
A lot of people take the piss out of religion and religious people but they do it amongst themselves or behind closed doors, doing it in national publications is plain dumb.


I'm surrised you can find the on button for your computer you buffoon.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 13 Jan 15 09:21
So he thinks the guardian is dumb and the mail sensible.  He is clearly fishing.
By:
The Leopard
When: 13 Jan 15 09:22
Warning: this article contains the image of the magazine cover, which some may find offensive.

The front cover of Wednesday’s edition of the French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo, the first since last week’s attack on its offices that left 12 people dead, is a cartoon of the prophet Muhammad.

The cover shows the prophet shedding a tear and holding up a sign reading “Je suis Charlie” in sympathy with the dead journalists. The headline says “All is forgiven”.

The two gunmen who launched the attack on the magazine’s offices last Wednesday killed five of the country’s top cartoonists, saying that they wanted to avenge the prophet for Charlie Hebdo’s satire of him.

The grieving journalists who survived the murderous assault promised it would be business as usual at the weekly publication.

A record 3m copies are to be printed, in 16 languages, after the massacre triggered a worldwide debate on free speech and brought more than 4 million people on to the streets of France in a unity march on Sunday.

The eight-page edition went to the presses on Monday night, according to Libération, the newspaper that offered Charlie Hebdo staff temporary working space following the attack.

The cover cartoon was drawn by the weekly’s cartoonist Luz, who survived the massacre because he was late arriving at the office.

The prophet has been a frequent target of Charlie Hebdo, whose editor, Stéphane Charbonnier, was undeterred by death threats for depicting his visual image in a manner certain to offend many Muslims.


CHARLIE HEBDO COVER



Newspapers around Europe, including Libération, Le Monde and Frankfurter Allgemeine have used the image online. The BBC showed it briefly during a newspaper review on Newsnight. In the US, the Washington Post, USA Today, LA Times, Wall Street Journal, The Daily Beast and CBS News ran the cover but the New York Times did not. In Australia, the ABC showed the image of the cartoon on its 24-hour rolling news programme but with a warning to viewers. The Guardian is running this cover as its news value warrants publication.

Speaking on Monday, Charlie Hebdo’s lawyer, Richard Malka, said that despite the deaths of nine contributors, including celebrated cartoonists Charb, Cabu and Wolinski, the magazine was created solely by members of the original team. They had declined offers from cartoonists around the world to contribute.

“We will not give in, otherwise all this won’t have meant anything,” he told France Info radio on Monday, from the magazine’s heavily guarded temporary offices at Libération newspaper.

Luz, a Charlie cartoonist, said working on the issue was helping him and his colleagues. He said: “We’re getting by. We are having fewer nightmares. We are trying to put a magazine together and find some calm and inspiration, it’s not easy.”
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 13 Jan 15 09:30
I'm surrised you can find the on button for your computer you buffoon.


So surprised you forgot the -p Wink

If Islamic extremists decided to attack Guardian Headquarters or the general public in response to the reprinting on these cartoons which atm would seem highly likely given how reactionary (see rob and yourself) people are to this sort of thing, then the buffoons as you call them will be those that have put other people's lives at risk for the sake of profit dressed up as free speech. Common sense would tell anyone to let the dust settle and not fight fire with fire.
By:
Torquemada
When: 13 Jan 15 09:36
Whilst I fully understand the fear factor many have in displaying these images, I find any hint that the blame lies anywhere other than these muslim terrorists to be despicable. 

Scandinavian Haven should be ashamed.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 13 Jan 15 09:43
Tony Blair has to shoulder some of the blame.  And those that voted for him AFTER the Iraq war have a lot to answer for too. But the main blame does of course lie with these brainwashed stone age w@nkers.
By:
The Leopard
When: 13 Jan 15 09:45
Newspapers around Europe, including Libération, Le Monde and Frankfurter Allgemeine have used the image online. The BBC showed it briefly during a newspaper review on Newsnight. In the US, the Washington Post, USA Today, LA Times, Wall Street Journal, The Daily Beast and CBS News ran the cover but the New York Times did not. In Australia, the ABC showed the image of the cartoon on its 24-hour rolling news programme but with a warning to viewers. The Guardian is running this cover as its news value warrants publication.

Remember, The Guardian are publishing cover as it is an important part of the news article, not because they want to offend anyone.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 13 Jan 15 09:45
scandanavian_haven, you're wrong.

By publishing they are showing that the thugs can't win through violence.
It's an old rule that giving in to the terrorists merely encourages more terror.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 13 Jan 15 09:50
You can see it here scroll down the page.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/jan/13/charlie-hebdo-cover-magazine-prophet-muhammad
By:
rob_dylan
When: 13 Jan 15 09:51
These pictures of Mo (peace be upon him) are now getting more coverage than ever because of the terrorists.  Idiots.
By:
The Leopard
When: 13 Jan 15 09:53
I have put up a thread for someone to upload the picture of front cover, who will be first?
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 13 Jan 15 09:55
I must be missing something and I'm surprised by reactions of some people here.

Reprisals at this sensitive time are likely are they not? Yes on one hand you really want to stuff it to them and defy their terror attacks, all well and good, but logic says that extremists don't do logic or proportionality, they wont mock Christians or Jews in publications in return, they will kill, because they are extremists, they are lurking all around us, they are home grown. They are currently training to harm us in places like Syria. An attack is inevitable but foolish publications reprinting stuff like this will only act as a catalyst, they can't do anything but.  And for the record, I have never voted labour.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 13 Jan 15 09:58
But scandy you're the guy that said Lewis Hamilton wasn't popular because he is black.  Then he went and won SPOTY despite honky McIlroy's acheivement being greater.  With the greatest of respect you're a clown.  Printing the front cover of Charlie isn't a reprisal it is reporting the news ffs.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 13 Jan 15 10:03
Someone should start a facebook campaign where everyone makes today's front cover their profile picture.  Nothing illegal or slanderous about it, just good old fashioned protest.  And the terrorists will have brought it on themselves.  By their very actions they will have been the catalyst for images of mohammad appearing all over the internet and press.  Nice one Cyril.  Might get unfriended by a few of my moslem cricket teammates though.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 13 Jan 15 10:25
The newspapers should certainly run the cartoons because the terrorists have made them high profile.
People want to see what the fuss is about.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 13 Jan 15 10:36
It's startling the powerful effects that a simple cartoon can have on these people.
If we played it up more in the West they might start to examine what we're laughing at, and why they have to come to us for stuff like science and technology.
By:
Alias
When: 13 Jan 15 10:53
In the late 1930s, most German newspapers carried insulting anti Semitic cartoons and caricatured Jews as evil and money grubbing. We know what happened next, so is it really OK to protect those who, according to many of its followers, insult Islam and the prophet? Should we really not care about "Life of Brian" etc?

I'm not religious btw. Just a thought.
By:
Alias
When: 13 Jan 15 10:56
If we played it up more in the West they might start to examine what we're laughing at, and why they have to come to us for stuff like science and technology.

Plenty of science and technology originated in the Arab Islamic world.
By:
The Leopard
When: 13 Jan 15 10:56
Western Law Abiding Democracies

OR

Murderous Torturing Evil Scum

Which side should you take ?

Hmmmmmmm?
By:
Helissio
When: 13 Jan 15 10:59

Jan 13, 2015 -- 10:53AM, Alias wrote:


In the late 1930s, most German newspapers carried insulting anti Semitic cartoons and caricatured Jews as evil and money grubbing. We know what happened next, so is it really OK to protect those who, according to many of its followers, insult Islam and the prophet? Should we really not care about "Life of Brian" etc?I'm not religious btw. Just a thought.


Did the Hitler/Nazis/German newspapers in 1930s every insult the Jewish religion? (Adam/Eve, Moses, Abraham, waiting for the Messiah etc etc) or were their insults at the Jewish race?

All religions make extraordinary claims with no evidence. People have the right to make fun of these claims/ideas.

By:
Dr Crippen
When: 13 Jan 15 11:11
You can see why we're in the state we're in with these people, when posters compare cartoons from an obscure publication with the events that led to the holocaust.

These are murdering fundamentalist terrorists we're dealing with here,
not peace loving Jews in 1930s Germany.
By:
alun2005
When: 13 Jan 15 11:13
I don't know whether the generally spineless British newspapers are in danger of reprisals from extremists if they print the latest CH cover. I do imagine they might well face a Police investigation though brought by some tragic 'offended' person for having committed some sort of modern Pretendy Hate Crime.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 13 Jan 15 11:18
Yes the British newspapers are afraid of upsetting the Muslim community many of which are journalists.
Which simply shows how they have worked their way into affecting how we behave.
This is just the start.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 13 Jan 15 11:25
But scandy you're the guy that said Lewis Hamilton wasn't popular because he is black.  Then he went and won SPOTY despite honky McIlroy's acheivement being greater.  With the greatest of respect you're a clown.  Printing the front cover of Charlie isn't a reprisal it is reporting the news ffs.


Rob, I can't take lectures from someone who openly mocks a stroke victim.

Hamilton didn't win SPOTY because he is suddenly ultra popular, it's because the people who voted are much more likely to be motor sports fans than golf fans, there have been black winners before him. And if you read my post properly, the reprisal I was talking about was in reference to likeliness the extremists acting upon these cartoons bein republished here,
By:
Helissio
When: 13 Jan 15 11:51

Jan 13, 2015 -- 11:25AM, scandanavian_haven wrote:


But scandy you're the guy that said Lewis Hamilton wasn't popular because he is black.  Then he went and won SPOTY despite honky McIlroy's acheivement being greater.  With the greatest of respect you're a clown.  Printing the front cover of Charlie isn't a reprisal it is reporting the news ffs.Rob, I can't take lectures from someone who openly mocks a stroke victim. Hamilton didn't win SPOTY because he is suddenly ultra popular, it's because the people who voted are much more likely to be motor sports fans than golf fans, there have been black winners before him. And if you read my post properly, the reprisal I was talking about was in reference to likeliness the extremists acting upon these cartoons bein republished here,


Music is haram in Islam.

Maybe people in western countries should stop making music - incase it offends extremists of Islam?

By:
Ken Masters
When: 13 Jan 15 11:53
Procol Haram?
By:
Get On MASSIVE
When: 13 Jan 15 12:23
scandanavian_haven

Sensible imo, there are many nutcases out there who will use it as an excuse to attack us, probably somewher in London again, if the French are stupid enough to keep reprinting these cartoons then that's there look out and if there's another attack there, they'll be blood on their hands. For once I praise the English press for having brains and doing the right thing. A lot of people take the piss out of religion and religious people but they do it amongst themselves or behind closed doors, doing it in national publications is plain dumb.


Sickening and gutless post, you ought to be thouroughly ashamed that you pander to Islamic extremism for the sake of an easy life.

Is the above poster the type of man we now breed in Europe? If so then we deserve what's coming to us.

[shakes head in disgust]
By:
Desmond Orchard
When: 13 Jan 15 12:24
You're mixing up your extremists Ken, they're the lot who snatched those 200 schoolgirls in Nigeria.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 13 Jan 15 12:35
Get real get on massive,take this scenario, next week, there are tube bombings again, killing over a hundred, they declare it's in retaliation for the publication of cartoons depicting their prophet, which is just what happened in France.  What next, do we print more cartoons as yet another act of defiance? when does it stop exactly? This really is simple stuff, you call it gutless, reality calls it common sense.  You'll all be agreeing with me if it happens.
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