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I find your comments very worrying aka. That is a typical totalitarian authoritarian response. "You might not have broken the law but we don't like what you've said so we are going to harass you so you comply in future".
Do you really want to live in that kind of society? I don't and remember it could be you they come for next. But her point played into the yes campaigners hands which is the group she was attacking. We (ie Scotland) had no other option other than sending the nurse to England for treatment a point that went over Hopkins head. I haven't thought deeply about your point but she hasn't played into anybody's hands. The referendum has been and gone. If anything her point, if made at the time, was one in favour of better together I'd have said. |
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I find your comments very worrying aka. That is a typical totalitarian authoritarian response. "You might not have broken the law but we don't like what you've said so we are going to harass you so you comply in future". Do you really want to live in that kind of society? I don't and remember it could be you they come for next FFS chill out it was a throwaway remark. toptalitarian authoritasrian response. I can't believe you typed that ![]() |
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As regards her remark about the nurse being sent to England for treatment you've missed the point yet again.
I was going to spell it out to you but it's late and I can't be ar5ed. ![]() |
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You can, but you can't spell.
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toptalitarian authoritasrian response. I can't believe you typed that
I didn't but I wish I had. ![]() |
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Hopkins actually kind of has a point in a muddled way. Basically lets say this happened and Scotland was independent at that point. Would it have spent the money on a unit for something as specialist as this, duplicating something it previously had access to anyway, on the off chance it might happen for a small country? Perhaps not up the political money spend wishlist until it happens. So if this had happened would Scotland want to give the victim possibly inferior treatment at home or send them to the one in England if it is believed to be better. If the latter, would Scotland pay for it? Regardless of payment, would it not then be Scotland still using a UK resource, after the SNP (who wanted the independence) aggressively rejected the UK.
I'm guessing that's basically the point she in her obnoxious way, if she's trying to make any actual point at all of course, is trying to make, as EternalOptimist can see. A large problem here is that for some in England, despite the fact "No" won in Scotland, many see the likes of the EternallyObnoxious Salmond and his anti English rhetoric as the face of Scotland... |
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lol Taxi. In my defence I have impaired vision so don't see whole of word.
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It's a facking sad state if there's only one suitable isolation unit in the whole of the UK.
Hoe much do they cost? Our local hospital got a brand new MRI machine about 3 years ago, and they cost £millions. |
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She is not worth anyone's time
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I don't see it like that JC. The facts are that there is only one specialist unit and it is in England.
Your point is speculation of what if and she was talking in the present tense only. "Not so independent now are you" Nothing to do with anything other than having referred this nurse down south. |
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call me a taxi It's a facking sad state if there's only one suitable isolation unit in the whole of the UK. There are quite a few isolation units in the UK Taxi but because ebola didn't seem that great a threat (to the UK) only one centre was created to specifically deal with it. Down south was the natural place for it given that most visitors from ebola infected regions come through the London area airports. |
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Well aka I think you can see what I'm trying to say, there is truth in it. I doubt there is only one isolation unit in the UK, she was isolated in Glasgow? The difference here is that it's very specialist treatment. In the US when someone was infected AFAIK they took them to their very specialist unit. If I was infected with something I'd want the best experts possible treating me, and I wouldn't want that f**ked up because some member of a nationalist movement wanted to politicse health and stick artificial boundaries on an island.
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Down south was the natural place for it given that most visitors from ebola infected regions come through the London area airports.
And most of them stay down south. I think the Hospital for Tropical Diseases is in London. If that's in the hospital she's in, she'd better hope they do a better job on her than they ever did on University Challenge, or she's had it. ![]() |
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I know someone who's worked on the ebola virus for years.
Was a student girl who worked for me during the summer and she got a position at Liverpool Uni studying the virus. We all wanted to hear more about it when we heard how deadly it was. That was 12 years ago so I'm assuming that the medical authorities must have managed to contain any previous outbreaks. I do see the point you are making but I don't think that Hopkins is that clever. |
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Britain needs more people like Ms Hopkins, very astute on most matters.
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Was a student girl who worked for me during the summer and she got a position at Liverpool Uni studying the virus.
It doesn't need studying. The 'experts' on the BBC said that soap and water prevents it happening. As the death toll when they said this was just under 3,000, and it's now over 7,900, either the 'experts' are wrong, or the people of Sierra Leone are not using soap and water effectively. Perhaps they should ask their own govt for cash, soap ain't that expensive, and the govt seemed to have plenty of money for war. |
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She worked on the three most potent viruses know to man Taxi.
Don't know if she's still there or moved on but the research has continued. |
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Maybe we should send Ms Hopkins to Sierra Leone to advise them as she's seemingly very astute on all matters.
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three most potent viruses know to man Taxi.
women taxes and death |
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Not that keen on taxes, pretty much against death but women? No, I'd leave the women out of your list and put immigration in their place.
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I'd say she's astute enough if she's working freelance and getting all this publicity. She was on Jeremy Vine yesterday having done some stunt where she ate like a pig to put on four stones to then show how easy it is to lose it to stick it to all the cream cake munching fatties for seeking to excuse their sloth and I thought she came over far more considered that when she is acting like an agent provocateur. A couple of generations ago she wouldn't have been at all remarkable. We had legions of battleaxes up and down the country who were razor sharp and usually did good things in their local community. Sadly they were replaced not that long after with lazy empire building idiots who ate too many cream cakes.
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akabula 03 Jan 15 01:56
Not that keen on taxes, pretty much against death but women? No, I'd leave the women out of your list and put immigration in their place ![]() No akabula or ebola in Norfolk. ![]() |
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Well, I haven't read the last one-and-a-half pages, so apologies if somebody else has said this.
It seems that all this furore is about her description of 'Sweaty Glaswegians'. Personally, I see nothing wrong with that because the first symptom they check for is a raised temperature. I would guess that the next stage would be feverishness. This would lead to sweating, et voila...there is your 'Sweaty Glaswegian'! This, obviously, would also apply to Scousers, Brummies, Geordies, Cockneys...in fact, ANYBODY who was stupid enough to return from ah infected area and not make DAMN SURE that they were Ebola-free. It will be a fine thing if she has infected others, won't it? |
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Which seems to be the relevant point. It was a selfless act for which the nurse should be applauded to go and try to help out. It was totally selfish and stupid not to return to this country after the three or so week period which takes symptoms for the infected to show.
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She can't have it both ways.
She says freedom of speech should be protected. But then cries to the police when the trolls come after her on Twitter. ![]() |
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As for the point I think there is quite a bit of unvented anger at the way some in the yes campaign behaved during the buid up to the indendence vote
Legitimate sources and evidence please Eo. There was plenty of evidence in the dailies of the lies and sh1t pushed by BT. They made headlines of Murphy's egging (ONE person, ONE egg), yet ignored the threat on Salmond's life and suppressed other stuff. |
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EternallyObnoxious Salmond and his anti English rhetoric as the face of Scotland...
Examples of "his anti English rhetoric" please. |
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Why the points about the woman being treated in London? Did she ask to go there? Who made the decision to send her? Maybe the NHS decided it was their responsibility, given her position and service.
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There is one designated. UK Ebola treatment hospital. It is in London.
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If the police approach her on this matter she should see her lawyers, possible compensation for Ms Hopkins.
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She can't have it both ways.
She says freedom of speech should be protected. But then cries to the police when the trolls come after her on Twitter. Big difference between freedom of speech and threats against a person. It's amazing how many people she manages to troll. The sweatyjocks have always been a sensitive lot mind. |
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I think I've already pointed out to you that the race has been run. You're like one of those Japanese soldiers emerging from the jungle in the 70's. Give it up man. |
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Hamsterdam 03 Jan 15 12:55 Joined: 03 Nov 11 | Topic/replies: 8,816 | Blogger: Hamsterdam's blog
She can't have it both ways. She says freedom of speech should be protected. But then cries to the police when the trolls come after her on Twitter. Big difference between freedom of speech and threats against a person. It's amazing how many people she manages to troll. The sweatyjocks have always been a sensitive lot mind. Errrr she was trolled and cried to the police, but the police told her to just get off Twitter if she couldn't take it. She claims freedom of speech, but doesn't like it back. The poor lamb. |
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03 Jan 15 10:47 This, obviously, would also apply to Scousers, Brummies, Geordies, Cockneys...in fact, ANYBODY who was stupid enough to return from ah infected area and not make DAMN SURE that they were Ebola-free. It will be a fine thing if she has infected others, won't it? You won't find many cockneys going to Sierra Leone, it's just like being at home, no holiday at all. |
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The nurse's condition has now deteriorated and her condition is now critical.
I wonder will Ms Hopkins be making a statement soon? |
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Hopkins is a bell-end who makes a living by being a bell-end, which appeals to other bell-ends. She is worth nobody's time.
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I bet you'd shag her though.
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G2D. All the more reaso0n why these people returning from danger zones should INSIST that they are checked thoroughly. They should also ensure that they, and everybody else concerned, understands the importance of adhering strictly to their safety procedures without exception.
Women like this nurse are just downright gung-ho and extremely dangerous. I also doubt very much if her present hospital can operate, without exception, to a strict safety regime. |
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the bell ends are the ones who are annoyed by her, she makes money from them
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