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"Poor people don't know how to cook"
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You do strike me as a microwave meal man cmat
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no doubt bought on stupid interest rates and then pleading 'poverty' when they can't buy the food they want.
A good % need socialism because they’re fkn useless and can’t manage their own lives. Where as another good % don’t need it and it’s nothing but lead weights to them. Then there’s those who maybe don’t need it but suffer from some form of middleclass guilt and want to impose it on everyone. |
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Just a thought on the poor and those using food banks.I would be interested to know how many have Sky,mobile phone contracts and the amount they spend on alcohol/cigarettes etc each week.Not making judgements but it would be useful to have facts on outgoings/income to go on.Too many people defend/attack the so called 'poor' without really having full details of their circumstances.Personally,I have no idea of the overall problem within the country and doubt if decision makers(politicians etc) do either.
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As a genuine suggestion, might it be a good idea to photocopy some very, very, very basic recipes and ideas on how to prepare simple, filling meals on a very limited budget. These should take into account that the possibility of limited kitchen equipment available to the food bank claimant.
I will start. Porridge Spoon 6 desert spoons of oats (as provided) into a bowl. Add water till oats are covered. Stir. Put in microwave for 2 minutes. Add as little sugar. Add a splash of milk. Eat. Baked Potato Get a potato. Prick it with a fork. Cook it in the microwave till nearly soft. Cut top open and add butter, cheese, beans or anything else you have to hand. Return to microwave for one minute. Eat. Soup Empty bag of pre-cut veg into pan. Add water and boil for 15 minutes. Eat. Every food parcel from the food bank should include the basic ingredients with the information enclosed. So you will get a box of porridge, a bag of potatoes, a pack of pre-cut vegetables for soup/stew etc. The poor and hungry beneficiaries should be absolutely delighted with what is supplied. It will also have health and educational benefits. |
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no doubt bought on stupid interest rates and then pleading 'poverty' when they can't buy the food they want.
doesnt make sense. so your saying a bank would have delved into a couple finances and lent them money knowing a hike in rates would send them on the breadline? your on another planet sunshine. gve it 10 years and the subrpime cycle will start again as the heat is taken off bankers and they start risky practises again like after thatchers era. |
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CMATs recipe sheet for easy meals
1) Get a wife who can cook. 2) Get a house with a kitchen. 3) Get a separate dining room. 4) Declare 2) as out of bounds to men. 5) Insert 1) into 2) and retire to 3) 6) Give the pet dog a first taste (just in case)  Sorted  |
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In relation to what the poor spend their income on specifically in the issue just of cigarettes the WHO cite has this:
A study in the United Kingdom shows that only 10% of women and 12% of men in the highest socioeconomic group are smokers while 35% of women and 40% of men in the lowest socioeconomic group smoke.3 Of those, studies in America show that from that group those who do smoke use up about 25% on the habit. I've read articles in this country citing similar amounts. I'm not sure what can be done to address such things but until they are addressed there are going to be an awful lot of people living miserable lives. That's before we get to the evil of this because of the tax take being raked off these poor unfortunate people's addiction. |
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GI Jockey
With the greatest respect you are amazingly green and naive. doesnt make sense. so your saying a bank would have delved into a couple finances and lent them money knowing a hike in rates would send them on the breadline? In the late 80's that's exactly what happened. I was a mortgage broker in those days and there were many lenders whose schemes we wouldn't use because we felt it was unfair to our clients to put them in such a vulnerable position. One lender had a scheme only to be used to applicants with a lot of equity in the property. In the terms of the agreement it said that the lender would foreclose on the mortgage if the borrower missed one payment. It also said that on missing a payment all the interest due over the whole term would become due. So in other words the borrower then owed the original sum borrowed plus, in many cases, 25 years interest on the loan. The lender actually was actually better off from the borrower not paying the mortgage. Borrowers were being repossesed and made homeless and the judge admitted there was nothing he could as it was all down in the morgage terms. Sad but true I'm afraid. |
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Declare the house out of bounds to men? I'm sure she'd agree.
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Anecdotally, it never failed to amaze me the number of people waiting at bus stops, smoking ..while non-smokers were driving past in cars.
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1st time poster, you're wasting your time.
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scandanavian_haven 09 Dec 14 09:26
You do strike me as a microwave meal man cmat No surprises there. |
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G1 Jockey – you’re not with it.
Plenty lenders with good rates won’t loan to the bottom end because of the higher probability of default, if they were willing to take on all comers then interest rates would be much higher for all and there’d always be someone else offering low rates because they pick and choose their customers. So they borrow money at stupid high interest rates either directly or via some hp agreement with likes of Brighthouse, the company estimates the number of likely defaulters and factors that and big profit into the interest rate i.e. that’s what the likes of Wonga do. Ultimately lenders don’t give a crap about you , they’re in business to make money, so if you’re stupid enough to sign up to mad interest rates or dodgy t&cs’s then it’s on your own head be it as far as they’re concerned. |
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With the greatest respect you are amazingly green and naive.
so what you are saying is what happened back in the 80s is exactly happening now where financial institutions are selling risky mortgages to people knowing they stand a chance of losing their house when rates go up? with the greatest respect you just helped my argument which you didnt realise is what i was trying to do with pawras ...thanks. with the greatest respect of course....note i dont need to add any put downs to try "bolster" my point  |
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pawras
"firms" like wonga are for people who have no where else to turn...."stupid enough to sign upto" may be the case for some but for others its either that or mug some rich c*** to make ends meet. you seem to be generalising on the poor.....basically looking down at people. way i see it your still a human being like them. your as equal as the poor person like it or not. |
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The point I was originally making was don’t go borrowing money for Tv’s and other material stuff and then complain you can’t buy your groceries.
Yes we’re all human beings and I don’t look down on those who work , however menial , to make their own way in the world. However I freely admit I more than look down on those who :- choose not to take a menial job because they say it’s “not worth it” because of the handouts generated by those who do work. had the same chances as me to get ahead in life but made f all effort from the moment they hit secondary school and seemed to think they’re were going to get a job that paid any meaningful without education/training, like I said prev if you’re 35+ it was all there available to you free you just had to actually take responsibility for yourself and make the effort. |
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Those who really have fallen through all the cracks and life has basically crapped on from a great height I genuinely feel for and believe they what the welfare state is for. Plus I hate vampires like Wonga etal.
Plenty others it’s good part their own useless fault, I know I grew with plenty of them. |
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scandanavian_haven
09 Dec 14 09:26 You do strike me as a microwave meal man cmat Wesdag 09 Dec 14 11:52 No surprises there. I'm about to get busy, don't sit there too long waiting for your predicted 'meltdown'. Btw, enjoy your lentils tonight.  |
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This poverty and hunger denialism from this Government is really quite revolting In fact it is positively Orwellian. .
Until recently their excuse was that foodbank use was rising because people are lazy and greedy and like something for nothing. Now its because people can't cook. All a transparent attempt to obfuscate the issue and avoid the bloody obvious which is that people with NO MONEY CAN'T BUY FOOD and that sanctions mean they have no money. That';s what sanctions means. It means penury and hunger When you sanction people on any excuse and leave them penniless, of course they will go hungry. What did they expect? Its so bloody obvious, it barely needs stating. |
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Come off it Tony, the poor have never been so well off.
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poverty and hunger denialism
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Sanctions don't mean they have no money Tony. Hope this helps.
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The problem is quite simply people have given up or lost the habit of cooking in favour of ready meals and take aways.
Take Spain for example. I'm sure they can't be considered affluent at the moment with unemployment at around 25%. However, the UK consumes SIX TIMES more ready meals than Spain. Go figure. |
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And obviously, ready meals are not cheap.
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I'll say it again. People do not have money to buy even the basics, because wages are falling, benefits are being sanctioned, and bills - ie. from the utility companies, are escalating. But these bills have to be paid, hence the need for wonga and its ilk.You cannot tell me that the people who have actually been found suffering genuine malnutrition are all chain-smoking, sky customer, deviants.It quite simply doesnt wash and you know this very well.
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A revolution - that's what we need.
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If you have benefits sanctioned, you can run out of money by the time the sanctions are lifted, the time-scale would vary depending on why you're being sanctioned. Just checked and the first sanction is a 13 week stop to your benefit, then 26 weeks, if you think people on the dole have savings lasting up to 13 weeks then you should probably watch too many cherry picked dolehead characters on the benefit programmes TV companies are obsessed with, checked the jsa rate and it's over 70 quid a week, again if you think jas claimants are living the life of riley on 10 quid a day then again you are deluded.
You can't reason with the Thatcherites on here and there "there's no such thing as society mentalities" |
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talking of spain much lower crime rate and generally much less sc ummy people compared to the uk.
dont think they have the same attitude towards the poor. im am over there frequently....looking to buy and start a business (yeah i know lol). in the supermarkets they regularly have charity collections of food for the poor. they ask for stuff like rice , cooking oil flour etc. what a great country imo great people. |
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people think they pay tax and it all goes to jsa people , deluded mugs
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jsa is a drop in the benefits ocean, a nice distraction from the real problems with the whole rotten system.
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I did enjoy Jack's menu earlier. And his idea of handing out simple recipes is a good one but shouldn't be needed.
I think I'm right in saying foodbanks are for emergency help to cover 3 days' food. It's straightforward to store 'emergency food' such as tins and dried food. Obviously people are not doing this. Isn't it time the truth came out that basic housekeeping is lacking?? |
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you mean like the truth that the gap between rich and poor also doesnt help economies?
think a problem is that people nowadays dont have enough time to prepare food and opt for ready made meals because of the demands on them made by having to work longer |
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when i was working i had ready meals every day
was too tired after work and the misses works different hours. now i have plenty of time so do cook |
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doesnt take long to boil some past and some sauce for a family
instead owen and anna on corrie share fish suppers to keep cost down |
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The 'poor' won't get richer by giving them handouts. It surpresses them.
The rich will get richer because once you've made money it gets easier not harder. |
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Tony/Scandinavian
You can jump up and down all you like but Tony alleged that sanctions means people have no money and that isn't true. They have reduced money and I don't for one minute seek to underplay the significance of that but hyperbolic claims have to be exposed for any meaningful discussion to take place. |
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another load of shoite next time your in spain or teneriffe spend some time looking around the hotel bins you,ll see well dressed middle class people getting what they can out of them,plenty of brits seen it with their own eyes the last few years,
if the torys want to console themselves over foodbanks with the thought some people will abuse them,fair enough cause they will but you can times that a 100 fold by people who are desperate but have to much pride to use them especialy amonst the old |
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There are billions of pounds sitting in govt coffers in the form of unclaimed benefits.
I've seen single blokes on here say 'I can't be bothered filling out all those forms for £60 a week.' Anybody that says he can turn down £3k a year when he's unemployed is a liar, or stupid, or his savings exceed the limit for collecting JSA. The you have those that don't claim what they're fully entitled to as they don't know they're entitled to it. And the odd few that won't claim as it makes them 'scroungers'. The answer to that is simple, don't tell anybody you're claiming. The only people you see in Jobcentres are other claimants, not your next door neighbours passing the time of day, apart from which, why worry about what your neighbours think? You're not a rapist or a paedophile, you're just out of work. |
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"CMAT - Never cooked a meal in my life and wouldn't have a clue how, and not bothered in the least"
You're talking my language mate...why would anyone want to bust their plums slaving for hours attending to the cooker when you can go to the local Wetherspoons, get a 14oz steak and a pint for £7 quid!  |
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PS - that's 14 fcukin' ounces! It's huge
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