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john92
27 Nov 14 16:19
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I'm still not sure on this one. The police have told so many other lies about this. A politician who is clearly a t1t or an organisation who have seen one (atm) member jailed for lying about what went on. Imagine trying to work out who to believe.

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By:
ebulGery
When: 27 Nov 14 16:31
How calling someone a pleb ends up as a libel case is totally beyond me?????????????????????????????

Its not even a particularly an offensive word, people have called me plebs(probably deservedly)

I have called them plebs....any sensible human being forgets about it 5 mins

it just means someone been has the bit of an idiot which we all are at times

We have become a society who are obsessed with the trivialSad
By:
Wesdag
When: 27 Nov 14 16:42
The problem is the person doing the name calling just so happens to be someone who needs the votes of so-called plebs.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 27 Nov 14 16:46
It is a particularly offensive word but I think the whole case is absurd.  The equivalent been said to me and from me plenty of times on here.
By:
dambuster
When: 27 Nov 14 16:50
He should have called him a ****, and be done with it, the thick copper would have understood that.
A politician ..world leaders in Lying.
A policeman ..world leaders in Lying...
Cry
By:
john92
When: 27 Nov 14 16:54
According to the judge the copper was

"not the sort of man who would have had the wit, imagination or inclination to invent on the spur of the moment an account of what a senior politician had said to him in temper"


So he is too thick to have made it up so it is 'probably' true. What a mess.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 27 Nov 14 17:01
Mitchell was a fool for going to court.

He should know that courts are like lotteries.
The judge surmised that he had used the word and said the PC was too thick to have made it up, so he says Mitchell is a liar.

Giving his ruling, Mr Justice Mitting said: "For the reasons given I am satisfied at least on the balance of probabilities that Mr Mitchell did speak the words alleged or something so close to them as to amount to the same including the politically toxic word pleb."

''satisfied at least on the balance of probabilities''

What kind of evidence is that?
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 27 Nov 14 17:09
near enough
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 27 Nov 14 17:13
If you haven't gat a water tight case you shouldn't go to court.
By:
Wesdag
When: 27 Nov 14 17:14
Mitchell is an utter fool.

Pretty much everybody was in agreement that he was fitted up by plod.

He was the victor in the court of public opinion but yet he decides to go to a court of law...Crazy
By:
berto77
When: 27 Nov 14 18:08
Stig Abell, managing editor of the Sun, also welcomed the verdict, hailing it as "a vindication for the Sun and its journalists - it is a victory for all journalism".

CryCry
By:
donny osmond
When: 27 Nov 14 18:16
fancied an easy pay out from police ( funded by me and you, a.k.ka the real plebs)

quite a decent verdict imo, balance of probabilities must have been a tough call
for the judge given the two sides at issue
By:
The Leopard
When: 27 Nov 14 18:22
Judiciary and cops are all in the Freemasons.....QED
By:
curious-cat
When: 27 Nov 14 18:27
Wasn't there an earlier claim of taped evidence which showed the police were lying ?

At least for everyone who has been fitted up by police lies there is some consolation in it happening to a leading politician if that is what has happened.
Personally I am on the side of the police ... Cameron was quick to dismiss Mitchell.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 27 Nov 14 18:27
Fortunes are lost all the time by people betting on the balance of probabilities.

He might just as well have tossed a coin and asked Mitchell to call heads or tails.
By:
alun2005
When: 27 Nov 14 18:29
Agreed.
By:
mad mad moon
When: 27 Nov 14 18:39
How can the legal costs amount to £3 million???
He either said it or he didnt. Why has it taken 2 years to achieve a verdict??
Did the barristers get together and have a sweepstake on how long they could keep it going!
By:
Wesdag
When: 27 Nov 14 18:48
Just like playing poker but with a pack of lawyers instead of cards.
By:
curious-cat
When: 27 Nov 14 18:55
I refer the honourable gentlemen to Jarndyce and Jarndyce.
By:
akabula
When: 27 Nov 14 19:03
Waste of money, should never have got to the courts.
By:
Wesdag
When: 27 Nov 14 19:05
He must love that bike.
By:
The Leopard
When: 27 Nov 14 19:06
I think it's been compacted.
By:
Thin and Crispy
When: 27 Nov 14 19:10
He must have borrowed Jonathon Aitken's Sword of Truth
By:
A_T
When: 27 Nov 14 19:16
bad misjudgement from Mitchell clearly thought after the copper was convicted the wind was in his sails. Wrong!
By:
akabula
When: 27 Nov 14 19:28
Thin and Crispy
He must have borrowed Jonathon Aitken's Sword of Truth


I'd forgot all about that. He was so serious as well the lying turd. Laugh

www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR51fB8JNhI
By:
Foinavon
When: 27 Nov 14 19:37
Three million for a minor tantrum, how pleasing.
The whole episode probably could have been avoided given a little humility.
By:
Ramruma
When: 27 Nov 14 19:38
@curious-cat -- some (other) police were lying (making out they were tourists who'd been shocked, for instance) but not, it appears, the ones most centrally involved.
By:
donny osmond
When: 27 Nov 14 22:16
the legal system has decided that the chances mitchel  called them plebs is between 50% and 99%

expensive job
By:
boxingthefox
When: 27 Nov 14 22:22
Foinavon

Three million for a minor tantrum, how pleasing.
The whole episode probably could have been avoided given a little humility.

Alas we are talking about an MP, and a Tory to boot, He was winning the "public sympathy vote" but his head was so far up his own arris, arrogance got the better of him. Bankruptcy (get out card) calling ?
By:
akabula
When: 27 Nov 14 22:26
Alas we are talking about an MP, and a Tory to boot, He was winning the "public sympathy vote" but his head was so far up his own arris, arrogance got the better of him. Bankruptcy (get out card) calling ?

No way. He should be able to claim this through his expenses.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 27 Nov 14 22:28
AKA, LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh you're not wrong. SadLaugh
By:
Dotchinite
When: 27 Nov 14 22:31
If you ever want proof that the legal parasites are totally out of control this is it.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 27 Nov 14 22:34
I agree Dotchinite, but don't you think someone ELECTED to run the country would know this.
By:
Foinavon
When: 27 Nov 14 22:42
He's never had my sympathy boxingthefox, glad he's been brought down a peg or two.
I ran a quick search on the net and see that his net worth is estimated at 2.2 million so may need his mates to chip in a few quid for him.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 27 Nov 14 22:43
Excellent,DevilLaugh
By:
dunlaying
When: 27 Nov 14 23:03
Oh I do hope it ruins the little ****.
By:
dustybin
When: 28 Nov 14 05:45
Report• Quote • Block User Dr Crippen • November 27, 2014 6:27 PM GMT
Fortunes are lost all the time by people betting on the balance of probabilities.

He might just as well have tossed a coin and asked Mitchell to call heads or tails.



Well that's what happens when you sell your soul to monetarism, you get generations of opportunistic spivvy speculators who chance their arm and input nowt.

Could say it's like backing the wrong horse.
By:
raspberrybottom
When: 28 Nov 14 07:14
Whole thing astonishingly daft if you ask me.

If Mitchell swore at the copper and called him an pleb
why didn't the copper just say "%*#+ you, ya ponce."
Or something like that as the bloke cycled off? End of story really.
By:
raspberrybottom
When: 28 Nov 14 07:14
* a pleb
By:
dustybin
When: 28 Nov 14 07:29
What do you mean after he's out of earshot?
Maybe doff a cap to the master too and thank him for his grace upon us.

This tells a story, one of what the mindset is of the supposed ruling classes towards the very ppl kept in line while being fed  feel good ethereal notions like 'democracy' that doesn't even exist in the real world.
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