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Oscar Pistorious - Last day of freedom for some time

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By:
Crisp77
When: 11 Sep 14 13:29
I think that after each decision she is just waiting for public feedback. Probably on Twitter now trying to weigh up how many years to give him.
By:
maleuk01.
When: 11 Sep 14 13:29
finish before 2.30 and has lunch for an hour and a half,

carnt take to much time to say guilty (as it looks like) of negligence and how long he gets.
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 11 Sep 14 13:29
Pistorius wearing his funeral gear...
By:
HH Sultan Vinegar
When: 11 Sep 14 13:30
Crisp77
FFS...just tell us the result
Did this judge grow up watching 3-2-1 with Ted Rogers

Laugh
By:
layingdoesntwork
When: 11 Sep 14 13:31
if there is any justice he should get the maximum sentence allowed for this charge
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 11 Sep 14 13:31
considerate timing from her, avoids clash with the first at Donny
By:
FlowerMyth
When: 11 Sep 14 13:31
Great advert for the jury system
By:
HH Sultan Vinegar
When: 11 Sep 14 13:32
Anyone with an ante post on Shrien Dewani getting a guilty verdict must be a bit concerned.
By:
maleuk01.
When: 11 Sep 14 13:33
why didn't she just say at the start

"I want to let him off, but the uproar it would cause means I have to find him guilty of something. I carnt do murder or second degree murder as he will get to long. So ill find him guilty of a lesser charge of culpable manslaughter so he only has to serve a couple of years"
By:
maleuk01.
When: 11 Sep 14 13:35
"and I fancy getting home early to watch the magic roundabout so lets all go home at 2.30pm."
By:
layingdoesntwork
When: 11 Sep 14 13:36
"How could the accused reasonably have foreseen that the shot he fired would kill the deceased?" - That statement alone is bull
By:
doantwin2easy
When: 11 Sep 14 13:50

Sep 11, 2014 -- 7:36AM, layingdoesntwork wrote:


"How could the accused reasonably have foreseen that the shot he fired would kill the deceased?" - That statement alone is bull


"clearly he did not subjectively see this as a possibility", in the subsequent sentence, is key for me. Think she is basically saying that in that moment he couldn't reasonably be expected to be cognisant of the consequences of his actions. Because he was scared etc.

She's not saying firing shots through a toilet door won't kill, but that he couldn't have been expected to be thinking that at the time. That's my interpretation anyway.

But she later goes on to say that he shouldn't have put himself in that situation in the first place.

By:
duffy
When: 11 Sep 14 14:13
Always going to be tough to have PROVED beyond reasonable doubt that he murdered her....that's not the same as every man and his dog...and the judge thinking that he murdered her....if the prosecution don't give her an excuse to nail him...she can't....and they didn't.
By:
Wesdag
When: 11 Sep 14 14:17
For those who have been following this case, most observers have always felt that OP would not be found guilty of premeditated murder so him being acquitted of this comes as no surprise.

Guilty of culpable homicide has always been the most likely option.
By:
curlywurly
When: 11 Sep 14 14:24
Judge wrapped it up nicely there, gives her all night to sort a deal out.
By:
Bergkamp93
When: 11 Sep 14 15:52
Just turned on Skysports news to see this Half-A-Human getting breaking news, Who gives a sh!t about him, he is just another sub-human going to get away with Vile Acts ???
By:
layingdoesntwork
When: 11 Sep 14 15:59
4 shots he fired, that is not the actions of a man trying not to kill
By:
doantwin2easy
When: 11 Sep 14 16:21
layingdoesnotwork - I agree. think his story was a croc of sht.
By:
Hound-Dog-2
When: 11 Sep 14 16:42
layingdoesntwork    

"4 shots he fired, that is not the actions of a man trying not to kill"

Exactly, and if your partner wasn't in bed with you then surely you would check it was not her using the toilet before shooting.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 11 Sep 14 18:56
I agree with the last four posters.
You don't fire a gun in your home if you can't see what you are shooting at.
He knew what he was firing at alright.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 11 Sep 14 18:56
I'd chop his legs off if I were the judge.
By:
mange
When: 11 Sep 14 18:58
"funny smell" ?
By:
ebulGery
When: 11 Sep 14 19:16
incredible verdictShocked

I can't believe it
By:
ebulGery
When: 11 Sep 14 19:18
They must love him out there
By:
Injera
When: 11 Sep 14 19:22
Just as well the Judge is black....

Truly staggering verdict.

So is she saying that if it was an intruder, he DID shoot to kill?????

Shooting thru a door at a person you know is there, is surely murder! You can't see to shoot to injure!!!
By:
mange
When: 11 Sep 14 19:23
Hel trip up in s mo..................
By:
bix
When: 11 Sep 14 19:26
I used to be an estate and letting agent and cant count the number of times I have seen the lock on the bathroom door smashed off. The usual scenario is male and female have a fight, female runs into the bathroom and locks the door. Male then kicks or shoulders the door open. This case always seemed a variation on that theme.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 11 Sep 14 19:32
You really can blame the South African police for undermining the trial, like in many cases across the country, they are corrupt, inept and negligent themselves, their shoddy initial handling of the crime scene ruined the trial, Nel called less than 20% of all witnesses because of the  defences deconstruction of the first few no thanks to the police.
By:
ebulGery
When: 11 Sep 14 19:33
sounds about right bix..

I suppose he could not kick the door in, so did the next best thing
By:
ebulGery
When: 11 Sep 14 19:33
He has topped OJ I feel
By:
Wesdag
When: 11 Sep 14 19:40
Will get sent down for manslaughter (or culpable homicide).

There was not enough evidence to get a conviction for murder - which is what most observers felt to be the case.
By:
A_T
When: 11 Sep 14 19:47
I can see Pistorius not doing a single night in jail over this.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 11 Sep 14 19:51
Looks like he will have to do it again to be found guilty. Plain
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 11 Sep 14 19:51
He's got to be convicted of manslaughter now, because if he goes free it would send out a message that you can shoot someone dead in your house who you know, and claim you thought it was an intruder.
That is not going to happen.

Four shots - that has to be intention to kill.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 11 Sep 14 19:55
Especially with the type of bullets he used, one was sufficient.
By:
Injera
When: 11 Sep 14 20:01
I thought the judge's language was very odd. Seemed to making excuses for him.

She attacked the prosection case.

OP did not ask the person in the bog to identify themselves. He then opened fire. (You don't fire a gun on someone you can't see unless you intend to kill)
By:
maleuk01.
When: 11 Sep 14 20:04
but injera you can't expect firing 4 bullets to expect someone to die from that.

According to the judge.

Who are we to disagree with such logic and legal know how.

Sad
By:
ebulGery
When: 11 Sep 14 20:11
Ibrahima Sonko  • September 11, 2014 7:51 PM BST 
Looks like he will have to do it again to be found guilty. Plain


interesting way of looking at it
By:
maleuk01.
When: 11 Sep 14 20:13
judge seems more interested in long lunches and knocking of early than handing out justice.

Only had to read out the verdict regarding the lesser charges and time served if any.

But decides to knock off before 2.30pm.

Imagine how reeve's family feel having to wait all afternoon/evening contemplating it all.
By:
ebulGery
When: 11 Sep 14 20:15
I would doubt they feel justice has been done maleuko1
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