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By:
ebulGery
When: 12 Aug 14 22:41
Good newsHappy ..we are sending three tornado aircraft for humanitarian efforts
and we may even considerShocked a "small numer" of Chinook helicopters.

You contrast this with what we sent to Iraq for invasion, Afghanistan, and even to attack Libya
rather more than this I feel.

That tells me where our priorities lie.

We so much prefer killing Muslims to helping themSad
By:
ebulGery
When: 12 Aug 14 22:42
arn't I cleverLaugh

if onlySad
By:
casemoney
When: 12 Aug 14 22:55
Weapons of Mass destruction ,We send the lot ,mass murder being carried out by an Army of 40,000 lunatics we send nothing ,
SEND IN THE BOMBERS WIPE THE VERMIN OUT ,JOB DONE !
By:
ebulGery
When: 13 Aug 14 00:11
oh you have turned the argument round on me case
oh dearSad
By:
ebulGery
When: 13 Aug 14 00:24
If it were only Isis, I may agree case, but unfortunately since I know we would kill lots of ordinary
Sunni Muslims I cantSad

But I think we can seal the Christians and Kurds off from them..be it with air and/or ground forces,
that I approve

Also of course because Christian countries have attacked Muslim countries, and killed a fair number of Muslims,
Christians in these country will become a target, also happening in Pakistan.
As always i war a lot of innocents suffer and die.
Why I do not approve of it...except in DEFENCE...we never attack another country.

It is disappointing to me to see our own society adopting  this approach.Sad

Although I do believe we have a right to prevent genocide, but little else.
By:
crags
When: 13 Aug 14 00:32
I know the Live and Let Live pub at Blagdon, dave, as I used to live in Cheddar. Small World Happy
By:
ebulGery
When: 13 Aug 14 00:34
this attacking other countries approach, that is what disappoints me

Also the US writing in its foreign policy as it did in the early 90's
bring down Iraq.....I regard that as an undeclared declaration  of war...and I doubt that Iraq
is the only name on the list

This is arrogance, and possible megalomania.
By:
brendanuk1
When: 13 Aug 14 05:33
these vice news reports are worth watching
.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsCZzpmbEcs
By:
polybot
When: 13 Aug 14 10:12
"I stick by my figures."

indeed alias, where would the the world be if people didn't blindly stick to their own self generated belief, despite obvious fact and logic. Laugh
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Aug 14 11:06
There is a type of person who if you say something slightly unusual or differing from
their world view or set of beliefs you will see a look of  concern come over their face.
They are confused and become adutated and may even resort to violence.
Alias has an almost uncanny ability not to understand a differing viewpoint. It is not
a case of dissagreeing but a complete inability to grasp the meaning.
By:
Tony Broke
When: 13 Aug 14 11:19
case you should sign up for employment with the c i a - you'd fit in perfectly.Gung ho!!usa usa1 usa usa!
By:
Alias
When: 13 Aug 14 15:14
Alias has an almost uncanny ability not to understand a differing viewpoint. It is not
a case of dissagreeing but a complete inability to grasp the meaning.



Says the poster who believes nothing of note or good or any value has ever come from Islamic countries or culture.

lfc, once again, are you a fan of FRANCO?
By:
Alias
When: 13 Aug 14 15:18
Polybot, you have completely failed to recognise the gist of my post regarding forced conversion, preferring instead to split hairs and launch another of your inane, insulting blurtings for its own sake.
By:
Alias
When: 13 Aug 14 15:26
lfc1971 11 Aug 14 20:43 Joined: 06 Nov 11 | Topic/replies: 3,636 | Blogger: lfc1971's blog
Chairman Mao, Stalin, Paul Pot, a few that didn'tcross Alias's mind..athough
Franco did for some reason.


The reason being he was a mass murderer. Political executions took place in Spain as late as 1969, 30 years after the end of the civil war. I happen to have a close affinity with Spain, so is that OK?

Oh, lfc1971. Please tell us the meaning of "adutate".Grin
By:
call me a taxi
When: 13 Aug 14 15:47
One should never criticise spelling in arguments or debate.
They will always come unstuck sooner or later, then look rather silly when I spot them. Devil
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 13 Aug 14 15:57
Isn't the meaning of his post obvious alias? It happens all the time on the politics forum. People sobbing because a bad baastard like Pinochet murdered a few thousand and totally oblivious to the suffering of tens of millions under people like Stalin and Mao. Dozens upon dozens of breast beating posts about Israel/Palestine and yet you have to drag any opinion from them about some of the many other conflicts which go on around the world.

It's a bit daft in my view to see the world in terms of left and right wings but if you do then you will leave yourself open to accusations of hypocrisy if you only criticise right wing murdering baastards. The left have killed plenty more.
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Aug 14 16:04
Thanks Eo, you have understood...that is my point about soeone critizing spelling but completely blind to meaning
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Aug 14 16:16
If I recall he mentioned Hitler, The Japanese generals and Franco! not even castro.
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Aug 14 16:20
That would be fine but alais takes if further by implying the japanese generals were
not members of the masonic lodge..silly billy :-)
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Aug 14 16:26
Of course before christianity in S. America their preferred form of religion included human sacrifice, but
I am sure alais will have factored this in before critizing the european powers.
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Aug 14 16:28
maybe it was part of their culture and therefore acceptable.
By:
Alias
When: 13 Aug 14 16:55
Perhaps you missed the post below in answer to your point about Stalin etc. Here it is again. Did you conveniently miss it lfc1971, or are you just stupid?

Alias 11 Aug 14 21:22 Joined: 28 Jul 02 | Topic/replies: 4,663 | Blogger: Alias's blog
NO, I agree lfc1971. None of them were Freemasons either, and all were nutcases. Have you missed the gist?

Is Franco a hero of yours?

Have you figured out any of the good stuff from the Islamic/Arab world yet?
.....................................................................................................................................

In case you don't understand: YES, Stalin, Pol Pot etc were murdering nutters. OK? Now, lfc, answer please, are you a fan of Franco? You seem very irritated that I mentioned him.
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Aug 14 16:59
I give up.
By:
Alias
When: 13 Aug 14 16:59
lfc1971
lfc1971 13 Aug 14 16:28 Joined: 06 Nov 11 | Topic/replies: 3,641 | Blogger: lfc1971's blog
maybe it was part of their culture and therefore acceptable.

Are you saying that because the Aztecs et al performed human sacrifice, that it was OK for the conquistadors to turn up and maim and murder and force conversion to Christianity? Because the N American indians weren't so technologically advanced as Europe, was it OK to kill them and steal their land and slaughter the buffalo, thus causing mass starvation?
By:
Alias
When: 13 Aug 14 17:00
Just as well, you've confused yourself enough.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 13 Aug 14 18:32
Alias seems very angry. Maybe Bito could start a naked group hug therapy group. That might help.
By:
Alias
When: 13 Aug 14 18:35
I'm perfectly calm Eo, but if you or anyone else can explain lfc1971's posts to me, I'd be so grateful.
By:
brendanuk1
When: 14 Aug 14 05:33
A Special Forces team flew to the mountain and found fewer people than expected, and those remaining were also in a better condition than feared, the Pentagon said.

sounds like WMD. Create a scare to justify some action. Looks like the actions are no longer needed so downgrade the scare
By:
brendanuk1
When: 14 Aug 14 05:39
Alias google 'sockpuppets'
By:
call me a taxi
When: 14 Aug 14 11:29
Alias
13 Aug 14 16:59   
Because the N American indians weren't so technologically advanced as Europe, was it OK to kill them and steal their land and slaughter the buffalo, thus causing mass starvation?


HISTORICAL OBJECTION
Buffalo Bill never killed a single buffalo. There were none in America, he killed plenty of bison though.
By:
Alias
When: 14 Aug 14 13:07
Fine cmat. The beast is popularly known as buffalo, nevertheless. W F Cody reportedly shot c 5,000.
By:
Alias
When: 14 Aug 14 13:10
I'm aware of the term, brendan.
By:
ebulGery
When: 14 Aug 14 13:20
indeed alias, where would the the world be if people didn't blindly stick to their own self generated belief, despite obvious fact and logic. Laugh

probably a better place than we are now polybot
But of course that also applies to ourselves!

you can't always blame the other guy, or we stay were our now
By:
ebulGery
When: 14 Aug 14 13:37
The destruction of the bison/buffalo had a great affect on the indigenous Indian population
this was was their main food source

The sad reality was their land was just tempting for us whites
"We cannot leave it to these savages" we thought...The whites broke every treaty we had with the Indians.
Finally Tecumseh Sherman (of marching through Georgia infamy) was tasked with bringing all Indian tribes
of the mid west onto reservations

He actually expressed some sympathy for the Indian cause, but as he far as he was concerned it had to be done.
A highly gifted commander, but he never shirked from being ruthless when necessary

The Apaches were the last to come in, they had little choice.
By:
ebulGery
When: 14 Aug 14 14:19
Sheridan did most of the ground work in the Indian wars....Sherman just oversaw it all

We needed the land for our cattle, this was big business, so basically the bison/buffalo had to go

The Apaches being more to S.West held out longer, because the more rocky suited terrain them.
But in the end it was their undoing, because of the bright Sun. The Cavalry started using mirrors as the Indians
did themselves to communicate over distance, enabling them to coordinate their attacks better.

They had to finally come into their reservations.
By:
Alias
When: 14 Aug 14 21:28
ebul, see PM

Americans !
By:
brendanuk1
When: 18 Aug 14 18:03
I see this lake is now "possible weapon of mass destruction, in the wrong hands" Cry
By:
wit-ham
When: 18 Aug 14 21:14
Are you  sure this not about footy rivalry
as some from Manchester fighting for one side
some from Leeds fighting for the other.
By:
themightymac
When: 18 Aug 14 21:38
"They made us many promises, more than I can remember, but they never kept but one; they promised to take our land, and they did". RED CLOUD

"If the white man wants to live in peace with the Indian, he can live in peace. Treat all men alike. Give them all the same law. Give them all an even chance to live and grow". CHIEF JOSEPH

"If the Great Spirit had desired me to be a white man he would have made me so in the first place. He put in your heart certain wishes and plans, and in my heart he put other and different desires. It is not necessary for eagles to be crows". SITTING BULL

"All we wanted was peace and to be left alone. Soldiers came and destroyed our villages. Then Long Hair came... They say we massacred him, but he would have done the same to us. Our first impulse was to escape but we were so hemmed in we had to fight". CRAZY HORSE
By:
ebulGery
When: 18 Aug 14 22:17
yes indeed mightymacSad

We would make a treaty, the white settlers ignored it and moved onto their land anyway
The Native Americans attacked them in defence of their territory, the settlers would make a plea to government "protect us"
in came the cavalry

an appalling injustice the modern US ignores and forgets

although I notice it is very quick to condemn others
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