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Seems to have gone quiet when i highlighted the fact that a number of doctors contacted the relevant authorities such as police and the CPS with concerns about the boys injuries but in a letter written by this incompetents dept supporting the toerags who did this nothing was investigated further.What a shambles and I would not have let this individual look after a hamster.
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Trolls, both of 'em.
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Now she has won her case
will she be giving all the money to a children's charity Wesdag? seems the moral thing to do |
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She has shown no morals up to now.Can't see it changing can you.
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No there was a time when someone would have resigned themselves over this
still at a £133 K annual salary nobody does that nowadays |
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To be fair to Wesdag, she has won her case on this:
, which culminated in the Appeal Court ruling in 2011 that she had been unfairly sacked and “scapegoated” over the death of Peter Connelly. I don't what his ruling was yesterday, or whether he needed to give one, but the judge has accepted this The social workers dealing with this case were found to have fairly sacked But it was found she was not. Haringey council thought she was, and still do Also that ruling did not say there were no failings in her department, just not enough to sack her So Wesdag is correct in this sense, not that I am happy about it, I fully understand peoples reaction, that is very human, most of us do empathise with children we would be a poor society if we did not |
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Shoesmith says she is absolutely thrilled...is this really the right choice of words to use???????
She say she wants to continue working with children...I sincerely hope she does not |
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I'm sorry I was unaware that once I had posted on a thread I was "on call" on a permanent basis.
I have absolutely no idea whether the woman was incompetent or culpable. And I have no desire to delve into horrors of society's scum and the activities of the people that taxpayers choose to pay money to in order to wipe their consciences and ignore these horrors. My only view on this episode is that a woman has in the eyes of the law and after an exhaustive process been dismissed unlawfully and compensated. The man responsible for this is Ed Balls. If the woman was as incompetent as some of you feel AND it was not possible for her to be sacked lawfully, it would certainly seem that there is something wrong with the system. But we will never know that because Ed Balls wanted to play to the crowd. |
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It was Haringey council who sacked her, they thought there were unacceptable failings in her department
I am not sure where Ed Balls comes into it although they may have given into pressure from him which would not have been right I would agree with that |
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The two social workers were sacked correctly...they lost their appeal, they did not do their job to an acceptable
standard How much the Shoesmith head of Department was to blame I would not know myself, without detailed study anyway she has won her case, and been well paid for it ![]() |
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Sometimes people are not good at their jobs, but they can be hard to sack, as they just do enough
I do not know if that was the case or not really???????? |
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The trouble I find with her is, it is all about the injustice she has suffered
she does not show anything like enough regret for baby P for me, for what happened to him at least, even if she felt was unfairly blamed although it may be this has not being reported by the media, when she has |
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dave,
Life just isn't fair. But it's fairer for some than others. |
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dave1357
26 Jul 14 00:05 I'm sorry I was unaware that once I had posted on a thread I was "on call" on a permanent basis. You have to post a note from your mum to leave a thread on here. |
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Well said dave.
As you've seen, it's not very popular to oppose the crowd. |
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You do know it's very bad form to return to a thread once you've said you're "done with it", don't you?
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You tell him Stevie.
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On the positive side, 600k may be seen as a small price to pay to ensure that this useless, incompetent woman was removed from her post at the earliest opportunity. How many more kids would have been left vulnerable to harm if the proper process had been followed and she had been left in her job for another 6 months or whatever?
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"Opposing the crowd" is not to be confused with being right.
It could be construed as trying to be the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response. |
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that u in the People study ?
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I don't know what you mean
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A big well done to Rotherham Council, Senior Managers and the Police for yet another debacle with our young and most vulnerable children being ganged raped and set alight. Only 1400 by conservatives estimate this time. At least the Council leader has stepped down but not anybody else yet. These people are total morons who I wouldn't put them in charge of a kids party. The spokesman's comments " serious mistakes occurred and we must learn so that it doesn't happen again" Where have we heard that old chestnut before. Our public sector and child social services not fit for purpose.
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If anybody got the sack, I hope they get at least £500,000 compensation.
Then w@nkers like Wesdaq can be happy. |
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We need prosecutions for the incompetence leading to such horrific crimes..
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the report makes very grim reading
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"serious mistakes occurred and we must learn so that it doesn't happen again"
You'd think they just delivered the wrong take away order. No you cnunts. Lives will have been ruined by your inaction. People will live with what has happened to them for the rest of their lives. People will become broken adults unable to function properly and mental illness will disproportionately be the lifetime gift of these sick twisted baastards to these poor unfortunates. So fucck off and thank your lucky stars we no longer allow public floggings for gross dereliction of duty. |
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Wrong thread for that but there's a definite pattern amongst these services not getting involved and choosing easy targets.
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call me a taxi 26 Aug 14 16:42
If anybody got the sack, I hope they get at least £500,000 compensation. Then w@nkers like Wesdaq can be happy. ................................................... ![]() |
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That's his idea ^^ of serious debate.
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If I was to respond to all your ranting and keyboard sabre rattling, I'd be doing nothing else.
HTH. ![]() |
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This prick thinks it's funny.
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^ I always find the ignorant ranting of intellectually challenged amusing.
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There's only one person here who has shown his total ignorance of the subject matter. Time and time again it happens and you seem to derive a lot of satisfaction in calling black white.
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He's a troll.
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My post censored
after expressing my personal disgust at the award the society we live in nowadays ![]() The compensation system, one of the most damaging and appalling systems we have ever adopted I do not know whose idea this was |
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I HOPE THE OLD COW DIES BEFORE SHE CAN SPEND A PENNY OF IT. HARSH I KNOW BUT SHE AS GOOD AS LET THAT POOR LITTLE LAD DIE DUE TO HER INCOMPETENCE. THE WHOLE AFFAIR STINKS.
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^^^^
I totally concur barney15c |
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Call me a taxi
He‘s a troll. Wesdaq This kind of name calling really highlights the level of your mind and how small it is. Based on the pre-historic views you continually spout, you must be at least in your sixties but yet you have to resort to playground labelling because you have no coherent argument or have the means to express it. 63 in September, which proves that even you can be right, once in a while. Prehistoric is not the correct term, and it doesn’t require a hyphen either. Perhaps the judges too are trolls because they use their intellect dispassionately to interpret and apply the law rather than are swayed by the ill-informed lynch-mob mentality of the mob. If the law (a judge) does it’s job properly as you implied, try reading the ‘THEN THE LAW SIR, IS AN ASS’ thread. A woman aged just 21 in south coast resort, who had 18 (yes eighteen) previous convictions for violence, walked free from a courtroom after she was found guilty of hitting a man in the face with a glass in a pub. He was lucky not to lose an eye. On the same day in Walsall, a man was sent to prison for 33 months for filming a movie on a phone from the back row of a cinema. ^^ Explain how both judges got that right. It is ironic that you continually harp on about justice for Peter Connelly. Justice is a universal concept which is colour-blind. Could you direct me towards the posts made by me, where I ‘continually harp on about justice for Peter Connelly.’ Would you be bothered if this poor boy was black? On this very thread I posted a host of atrocities against children that started back in 1973 with Maria Colwell. It’s on page 3: dated 24 Jul 14 19:27 I didn’t post about black or asian atrocities only, I posted all 13 stories that I found. And onto another of my threads ‘Essex man has caustic chemical thrown in his face’ The thread primarily concerns the [b]BBC’s TELEVISION news pages under reporting crime by blacks and asians.[/b] Wesdag 13 Aug 14 21:45 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-28731050 From the same article, written on 10th August it clearly states: "The two suspects are described as a white man and a black man and if anyone saw them either in the area prior to this attack or afterwards we would urgently like to speak to them." It appears that the op puts having a good seethe ahead of getting his facts correct. After I pointed out that you were wrong, ti was for BBC TELEVISION news, and asked if you could tell the difference, did you comeback back and apologise for calling me a liar? Of course not, trolls don’t apologise for anything. Almost 20 hours later, your wit, wisdom and willingness to debate came up with this gem: Wesdag 14 Aug 14 16:29 Always amusing to see the usual suspects having a good Alf Garnet style seethe. I said that I don’t seethe, but if I did, I could wake up calm in the morning, whereas, like all trolls, you’re destined to wake up stupid every day. Still not content, you posted to naydam. Wesdag 14 Aug 14 19:00 naydam, I simply find it amusing that this kind of Alf Garnet style ranting as displayed above still exists. Such types seem to have a massive chip on their shoulder which you can't help but laugh at. They are relics of the past who can't or won't accept that the world has moved on. If that constitutes "winding people up", then so be it. I posted this. call me a taxi 14 Aug 14 20:14 Wesdaq, are you black? If not, do you live in an area with a large black or asian population? Tell us where you live. This was to try and ascertain if you had experienced living in a community similar to where I used to live, where the indigenous whites are outnumbered by a ratio of 2:1 It took you almost 2 days to reply. I don’t really consider it as one of your finer points of debate: Wesdag 16 Aug 14 18:45 Keep it up Alf Garnet Hardly the response of somebody who insists he’s not a troll. |