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As I pointed out - 60 years ago I was collecting save the children envelopes with my mother - what has changed
Someone pointed out that moderate muslims are in the majority but even the parents of dead syrian fighters have said they are martyrs - work that one out - so even a moderate implicitly supports terrorism. Do you see the quandry they have??!! |
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Moderate Muslims cannot speak out again Muslim Terrorists, they would endanger their own lives
This is what happened in N.Ireland, Catholics could never publicly condemn the IRA they would have been killed by the IRA Also it is against our own natures for us to condemn our own anyway, otherwise we risk ending up friendless the best you can hope for is they do not actively support them, that is the key |
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All they need is an education so they have a better chance of working their way out of poverty.The birth control will happen naturally as peoples income and aspirations improve.
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very true Bigmo...but people's income may not improve naturally
without perhaps the China solution, they are in a trap, as China were, so China broke the cycle forcibly |
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Or the British and the protestant para military's.
Or Christian Europe and the slave trade. Nor Christian Germany during the holocaust. |
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you put us in a quandary on here Northern Lad
![]() as far as terrorism, one has to try and separate them from the normal population so in Uganda, you have to try and separate Boko Harem form the ordinary Muslims or you risk ending up with civil war, which of course is what Boko Harem want, with the Muslims winning |
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as far as Syria is concerned moisok, you have got civil war I regret, they have gone well beyond the terrorist stage
it has got completely out of control sadly ![]() |
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The government of Uganda would never be able to enforce birth control
so we are back with your solution Bigmo...I see that |
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Rescue as many as possible, when all that are left in their hideout are Islamist nutjobs, blow it to smithereens with an air strike.
Any missiles left, do the country a favour and bomb Blackpool. |
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Any missiles left, do the country a favour and bomb Blackpool.
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You were talking about the normal populace of a country turning a blind eye eG.
That happens everywhere even in small groups- man beating woman in the street - women being raped on a train by a drunken gang. Vast majority will walk by/sit and say to themselves- "Nothing to do with me - mustn't get involved".. eG Try to keep from going off on tangents. Stick to one post covering a subject and allow others to reply before posting another. O and stop leaving a space between every line. Just my opinion! OR MARS WILL ATTACK! [ This image is no longer available. ] YAAACK! YACK! YACK! YACK! YACK! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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I like my spaces Northern Lad
![]() and I like talking to myself a lot...I am mad ![]() ![]() ![]() yes we do turn a blind eye..it is human nature we fear if we get involved..a gang will turn on us or we just don't want the bother getting involved..it easier to walk by on the other side, Jesus's story of the good Samaritan of course. However often terrorists or indeed guerrilla fighters will terrorize their own side as much as the other, in order to ensure they get their support |
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Your Kebab shop again
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the book demands, tells you, that anyone dying in the pusuit of rightful cause is a martyr
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or a lunatic
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the book demands, tells you, that anyone dying in the pusuit of rightful cause is a martyr
I think what is meant by that is giving your life for your beliefs, not taking a life. That spectacularly misses the point. |
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yes and it appears that moderates think that this is ok to be a martyr
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I must admit that I don't the real requirements for martyrdom, but I thought that killing people was alright as long as it was in the furtherance of Islam. I also seem to recall that duplication (lying) is perfectly acceptable, again if it is in the furtherance of Islam.
I cannot recall whence I formed these impressions but, if true, it means that they are encouraged to lie to you and to destroy you. Does anybody know if these thoughts are correct? |
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*don't know* FFS!
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muslims do not like infidels so they sure won't like you naydam
they cannot be your friend even though you might think they are |
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Tony Blair told a few lies I remember, he claims he is a Catholic
![]() Still if I was God he would definitely not be getting into heaven down below for you Tony , I would say |
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We must only kill Muslim Terrorists, not ordinary Muslims
or it makes us no better than they are Boko Harem are terrorists just my opinion |
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Boko Harem announced today that they have saved these children my making them Muslims. Nothing about the distress they have caused the families. If the SAS could go in and put a bullet in these parasites I would be the first to applaud.
Like I said before why should we get involved? But I would like to see these drug fuelled terrorists dead, every one of them. |
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First you must establish whether any of the girls (unlikely as it seems) wanted to become Muslims. Plenty of Christians in this country are converting freely.
Your solution will give rise to the next wave of Boco Harem X 1000. Nothing better than proclaiming martyrs against the heavily armed western invaders to drum up support. How do you thing radical Islam has spread across continents? They didn't do it by reading passages from the Quoran. |
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How do you thing radical Islam has spread across continents?
By allowing too much immigration. End of story. |
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Lets have a collection and send them funding - Nlad can put a collecting box on the counter.
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You missed the 'o' out of 'Fargoism' but I don't watch it anyway.
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well who would have guessed who would be implying support of terrorism on here
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First you must establish whether any of the girls (unlikely as it seems) wanted to become Muslims. Plenty of Christians in this country are converting freely.
They have been kidnapped Northern Lad Are you seriously suggested they wanted to be, taken from their families, and sold off as as brides at 10 years old ![]() You would think different if it was your daughter, even if you have none, surely you can imagine your feelings? I caution us not to kill ordinary Muslims I do not extend this consideration to Boko Harem, they kill and kidnap ordinary Nigerians |
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They are being held hostage in demand for Muslim Militants to be freed
but I cannot see the Nigerian government doing business, it would encourage repeats I hope we find these girls in time But I also hope we offer the Nigerian government continued support in fighting this evil group |
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northern lad would stop all that on the point of debating the rights of the girls to convert to islam
but then he is a supporter of islam |
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I was asking a deeper question?
When they are returned will they all repudiate everything their captors have told them. Will one or two think it was wrong what they did, but what they told us made me start to question for the first time womens role in our country, and the corruption of our ruling government propped up by the west? Anyone ever heard of Patti Hearst. No I suppose its a bit too long ago and highbrow a topic down at the local for you. |
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no you are not
you are implying support for islamists but I would expect nothing less from you a homophobic racist who hates the english your support as a marxist for these groups astounds me and your support for a not socialist labour party |
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Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah!
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but what they told us made me start to question for the first time womens role in our country
I would of thought it would be the complete opposite. Now let me think, an education free from prejudice and a chance to make my own decisions, or walking 10 yards behind my husband/cousin, covered from head to foot, and a chance my daughter may have her genitals mutilated. Tough decision. |
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Anyone ever heard of Patti Hearst.
She was an adult, who may or may not have colluded with her kidnappers these are 200 children, you think they colluded in their own kidnapping, what planet are you on Northern Lad?????? I am in a difficult position Northern Lad, I am all too aware of the West's failings in the Middle East, it shocked and disappointed me. But Africa has got enough problems already without Muslim Terrorists, we must help Africa countries to get rid of them. I also feel we have an obligation to fellow Christians, although I am not advocating another Crusade, just a bit of help that is all. |
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Christians in Egypt also have their genitals mutilated, the practice predates Islam.
Jewish males also have their genitals mutilated in 2014 in the UK and all perfectly legal. You seem very selective about who can and cannot practice genital mutilation? I contend NOBODY should practice it whether Jewish, Christian, Muslim. Male or Female. Religious or traditional culture, it must be made illegal. NO TOLERANCE FOR MUTILATING CHILDREN/BABIES! |
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I also feel we have some obligation, as Nigeria was an ex British Colony.
Not full scale military intervention, but we can offer them some specialised help ps Northern Lad, male circumcision is a very minor operation, there is no comparison, I don't why it started?? Female circumcision is very intrusive, in fact only practiced in the most backward Muslim countries. I think we can lose that one. |
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Fat is it pre dates Islam. Coptic Christians in Egypt practice GM.
You are right that in the poorest countries it is prevalent. Many of which happen to be Muslim but that has nothing to do with Islam. As for circumcision being of minor intrusion? There shouldn't be any clinical intrusion with a scalpel to a healthy baby. The practice for hygiene reasons in the hot sweaty middle east were taking a bath/shower was a luxury is in some way understandable, but Muslims in far hotter conditions never picked up the practice of male GM. In this day and age there is no reason for its original purpose hygiene! |