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By:
sideshowbob
When: 06 May 14 21:18
think youre confusing him with his brother, magic?
By:
pumphol.
When: 06 May 14 21:19
I agree terrorism in any country should be stamped out but its going to be an impossible job in Nigeria with well over 80 million Muslims in the country if 0.1% were radicals & possible terrorists you would be looking for 80,000 potential bombers & terrorists in other words an impossible task to police for any country let alone Nigeria.
By:
ebulGery
When: 06 May 14 21:34
agree Pumphol, so whether we like or not, we are going to have to help Good Luck Johnson

we cannot intervene directly, in case it kicks off civil war, but whether we like it or not

we have to offer him some assistance in fighting Boko Harem

There has been a massive population increase in Nigeria, how can such a poor country support this?

I am concerned about population levels in Africa. They have wars which does not help.

But they also have things like drought, this concerns me.
By:
moisok
When: 06 May 14 22:59
Leave them to it - it has nothing to do with us.
By:
naydam
When: 06 May 14 23:13
I would have thought that loads of wars would be VERY helpful in curbing massive population increases! Sad
By:
ebulGery
When: 06 May 14 23:41
that's a point Naydam

Oh no! we cant leave them to it moisock....we have to help Good Luck out here

I don't think we ever did much good for Africa...basically exploited them

although not everybody did, some people did go out there to genuinely try and help them

I think I would done that in some role, perhaps a farmer ,civil service or something

I would have seen them as children we must help,...very paternalistic and racist probablyBlush

I still see them a bit like that, so like Gordon Brown, I feel we must help them

and these Boko Harem chappies...they are really not nice at allSad
By:
ebulGery
When: 06 May 14 23:48
I do not say full scale military intervention, but some help

We and the US are discussing it with them now I think

I hope something comes of it

Trouble is, it is quite big Nigeria, villages all over the place

and the largely Northern Muslim population will probably shield Boko Harem

will we find those girls????

I see the woman of Nigeria have demanded Good Luck must show some testicular fortitudeLaugh

I don't blame them, Good Luck must accept some help, you cant let your women down

it is not gentlemanly
By:
naydam
When: 06 May 14 23:53
I agree. But the FIRST help that you've got to give 'em is to teach them to STOP breeding children that are going to die of starvation!
And WE must stop keeping them all alive just so that they can breed MORE children to starve to death!
Many of the starving population are a direct result of well-meaning interventions which only seek to cure the symptoms and not the cause of the problem.
How many starving children are there who would never have been born into misery if some stupid do-gooders didn't keep interfering with the balance of nature.
By:
naydam
When: 06 May 14 23:57
I'm, not sure why I posted that rant on this thread...I seem to have wandered off-topic. Thinking too much about poverty and over-population. Sad
By:
Clouseau
When: 07 May 14 00:00
Is it just me or is anybody else struggling to shake off the image of ebulGery, clad only in a pith helmet, simmering away in a great big pot on an open fire surrounded by whooping natives? Plain
By:
ebulGery
When: 07 May 14 00:09
LaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
ebulGery
When: 07 May 14 00:14
I did not say it was easy NaydamSad

and of course there is a very dark side to Africa I am afraid ..bad thing happen there

humanity at its worst I am afraid

I still feel a need to salvage them, but I don't know how tbh??????????????
By:
ebulGery
When: 07 May 14 00:15
Often good intentions, turn out bad, as you say Naydam
By:
sideshowbob
When: 07 May 14 00:20
a culling of everybody who wears tracksuit bottoms, but doesnt run or play any sport, would be a cracking start.
By:
moisok
When: 07 May 14 00:30
leave them to it - sorry and all that - we get blamed for going out there - so we leave them to get on with things (supposedly ) ( forget the great god of capital and the exploitation of natural resources) 

so we leave them to it and look at the fn mess!!??   - leave them to it - stop interfering
By:
moisok
When: 07 May 14 00:32
nearly 60 years ago I accompanied my mother gathering up the little envelopes for save the children

I think that says it all!!
By:
sideshowbob
When: 07 May 14 00:50
the thing is the news doesnt show good things. thats how the news works. it shows bad stuff. im not saying africa is all roses and milky way magic stars, but what we get exposed to on the news is the worst of the worst. they arent going to show a nice little village where everybody goes about their lives with nae bother.
By:
ebulGery
When: 07 May 14 00:50
you are a decent chap Moisock who feels  the dissolutionment  of it all

We did exploit, but we did try to help them as well

but we never quite got the savage out of them did we

for some reason I still feel the need to try to help?????????????????????

our colonial natures, who knows
By:
ebulGery
When: 07 May 14 00:51
very true Bob we are addicted to bad newsSad
By:
ebulGery
When: 07 May 14 01:09
disillusionment I should say moisok
By:
northernlad5
When: 07 May 14 01:25
ebulGerry,

"...but we never quite got the savage out of them did we"


An absolutely disgusting racist comment!
By:
northernlad5
When: 07 May 14 01:29
The British were pretty savage when they opened fire on spectators at a sporting event at Croke Park in Dublin in retaliation for attacks on the infamous 'black & tan'!
By:
creatureinthesky
When: 07 May 14 01:47

naydam 06 May 14 23:53 Joined: 31 Jul 04 | Topic/replies: 6,835 | Blogger: naydam's blog
I agree. But the FIRST help that you've got to give 'em is to teach them to STOP breeding children that are going to die of starvation!
And WE must stop keeping them all alive just so that they can breed MORE children to starve to death!
Many of the starving population are a direct result of well-meaning interventions which only seek to cure the symptoms and not the cause of the problem.
How many starving children are there who would never have been born into misery if some stupid do-gooders didn't keep interfering with the balance of nature.
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FFS you talk of them as animals, infant mortality is high in these countries, also it wasn't so long ago that UK and Irish families had huge families as a matter of course, 13 kids etc.

Other countries raped Nigeria and then left, it is happening again with bio fuels.

Colonialism served only the countries that invaded and now we are all paying the price.

Keep clapping for Nigel and see where it gets us all.
By:
northernlad5
When: 07 May 14 02:03
Too true cits,

For centuries, India's poor, had large families in the hope enough of them would survive to look after them in their old age. There was no welfare state, no pensions, no nursing homes, without children to support them and not capable of earning a living they starved unless lucky enough to be taken in be the odd charity.

No historical knowledge. An inability to see human beings as less advantaged than themselves, and no empathy for the suffering or in deed those who are prepared to leave home family and friends and go to a foreign country in the brave attempt to make life for themselves & families just a little more bearable.

That's UKippers!
By:
ebulGery
When: 07 May 14 07:42
ebulGerry,

"...but we never quite got the savage out of them did we"


An absolutely disgusting racist comment!


it is not intended as such Northern Lad..but I will apologiseBlush

Boko Harem is a militant Muslim terrorist group, they are waging a bombing campaign in Nigeria

They are the ones kidnapping these girls.

All I am advocating is we support Nigeria in fighting these terrorists.

Targeted military strikes seems a good option, if Good Luck gives us the go ahead.

But they must be very carefully targeted so as not to kill ordinary Nigerian Muslims

and/or we support his own military in doing this

I am advocating full scale intervention, it does not work.

ps

Having them all come and work over here is not the answer!!!!
By:
ebulGery
When: 07 May 14 07:43
not advocating full scale military interventio
By:
Clouseau
When: 07 May 14 08:04
We should send in the Scotland Yard Madelaine McCann squad straight away before the trail goes cold imho.
By:
ebulGery
When: 07 May 14 08:04
LaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
ebulGery
When: 07 May 14 08:07
Naydam was right in saying sometimes when we try to help, we in fact makes things worse

The EU common agricultural policy counts against them as well.

These countries do not compete well in the world capitalist system, another problem for them.

I have often thought communism may help them, but we don't want that do we.
By:
ebulGery
When: 07 May 14 16:40
It was unfair of me to say the savage seems to lurk

They are a tribal race, we Europeans stuck them in boundaries which rather ignored this

so it is not surprising they always seem to be at war

Also some of the interior parts of Africa were cut off from the rest of the world

..they have a bit of catching up to do

although there is evidence of ancient civilizations in some parts,


We were tribal once, King Alfred introduced us to the idea of nationhood,

anyway the wars we rage there is a lot of the savage remains in us

perhaps Joseph's Conrad's novel 'Heart OF Darkness', influenced by comment as well

The story is a complex exploration of the attitudes people hold on what constitutes a barbarian versus a civilized society and the attitudes

on colonialism and racism that were part and parcel of European imperialism.


. As Kurtz dies, Marlow hears him weakly whisper: “The horror! The horror!”
By:
ebulGery
When: 07 May 14 16:44
Africa writers have condemned this novel, but it is complex

Conrad himself, who live there once, was disillusioned with our Imperial attitudes
By:
ebulGery
When: 07 May 14 16:53
The film Apocalypse Now is based on this

with Marlon Brando the Kurtz like figure, a man who commits atrocities

but is also desensitized by the horrors he has seen
By:
moisok
When: 07 May 14 21:59
africa is a basket case and it is all ebulgery's fault

you nasty invading colonialist!!!!

I would guess slavery was all your fault gery

have you apologised for that yet.

check out how many slaves they reckon they have in africa!!??

NOW that is!!??
By:
ebulGery
When: 07 May 14 22:02
I wish I had a slave to clean my houseBlushBlushLaugh

I have gone off the colonial idea after clousseas vision of me in a cooking potShocked
By:
ebulGery
When: 07 May 14 22:03
moisok
By:
ebulGery
When: 07 May 14 22:06
Slavery was considered quite normal at one time by everybody
By:
moisok
When: 07 May 14 22:23
it certainly is in parts of africa!!

and with the foreign gangs trafficking girls into the uk!!!
By:
ebulGery
When: 07 May 14 22:24
Nobody know can apologise for slavery unless they have actually owned one themselves

we cannot apologise for somebody else

I think the problem is that in the past we justified exploiting people on the grounds we were more civilized

some people objected to this

But as I pointed out earlier some people still tried to help these people in good faith

I think if I had lived then I may have been such a person, hopefully I would not have been eaten for my troubles
By:
ebulGery
When: 07 May 14 22:28
I can believe it

The strong always exploit the weak.......

You see this not a racial thing at all...it is the strong exploiting the weak for their advantage

it is a weakness in us all....as you are pointing out moisok

our only fault or perhaps luck, is that we were the strong at the time
By:
ebulGery
When: 07 May 14 22:39
Often in the more backward parts of the world..I can believe slavery may still exist

and there are always some of us, who like to force vulnerable girls and women in prostitution

for their own financial game...they are a commodity like everything else.

I have no problems with prostitution as long as the women do it voluntarily

otherwise I would object, as the decent among us should do, you do moisok, it does you credit
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