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Dan Chipowski
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239 souls on board. Sad

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By:
Back High Lay Low
When: 08 Mar 14 02:51
doesn't look good
By:
Hamsterdam
When: 08 Mar 14 05:23
^^^^ understatement.

Whenever a plane goes missing of radar for this long it's 1.000000000000000000000000001 in the sea somewhere.
By:
Dan Chipowski
When: 08 Mar 14 08:08
Still haven't found it. Two infants on board as well. Sad
By:
dlarssonf
When: 08 Mar 14 08:40
Sad
By:
xmoneyx
When: 08 Mar 14 10:10
Fox News--4americans
By:
xmoneyx
When: 08 Mar 14 10:13
no emergency call--strange
By:
dlarssonf
When: 08 Mar 14 10:17
Not strange at all, prob didn't even know about anything wrong until it was all over Sad
By:
FlowerMyth
When: 08 Mar 14 10:27
A 777 hasn't crashed before, I think, certainly no loss of life previously.
By:
FlowerMyth
When: 08 Mar 14 10:30
Wrong, last year's San Francisco crash, where someone was run over by a fire truck included two who died from the plane.
By:
brendanuk1
When: 08 Mar 14 10:53
terrible waiting 6 hours to give statement, family will have been in terrible state.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 08 Mar 14 12:46
pilots fell asleep?

total guess
By:
Dementieva
When: 08 Mar 14 13:20
Don't be ridiculous. There's 3 pilots on board and anyway the plane would be on autopilot.

It's disappeared off radar at 35,000ft suddenly, it appears, but it probably did not do this. A bomb? Unlikely as lots of wreckage would be floating on the sea and would have been spotted by now.

Much more likely the flight computer had a problem feeding data hence it just 'vanishing'

Horrible stuff. No hope of survivors :(
By:
xmoneyx
When: 08 Mar 14 13:20
pilot on sky now explaining what could of happened
By:
xmoneyx
When: 08 Mar 14 13:21
didn't the air france just fly into the wter
By:
xmoneyx
When: 08 Mar 14 13:24
he says people out there still hav hopeCry

terrorism,piolt error

DOESNT HAVE A CLUEExcited
By:
Dementieva
When: 08 Mar 14 13:31
There's lots of factors involved. AF 447 was no different.

Air France Flight 447, a scheduled flight from Rio de Janeiro to Paris, stalls and dives into the Atlantic Ocean while flying through a thunderstorm, killing all 216 passengers and 12 crew on board. The causes of the crash were incorrect airspeed readings due to ice blockage of the aircraft's pitot tubes, inappropriate control inputs and the pilots not taking recovery action until it was too late.
By:
The Leopard
When: 08 Mar 14 14:20
I wondered if you are permitted to bring a parachute on a scheduled flight :

- both the TSA website for the US, and the CATSA web site for Canada say you can. There may be restrictions by the airline, however.

The TSA page also says that they inspection process  involve opening the chute. It will be up to you to repack it if they decide to do that.

Now, if you are want to bring one because you think you will have an opportunity to jump out of a crashing plane, you will be very disappointed.

- First, crashes are really very rare. 1 or so out of 10 million flights.

- Second, most crashes occur with very little advance warning. If the pilots know something is wrong, then they work to fix it. Take offs and landings are the most dangerous time, and you would not have the altitude for the chute to deploy, nor time to get a door open and leave the plane.

- Third, if you were at sufficient altitude, then, when the cabin is pressurized, it is physically not possible to open the exterior doors - they are held closed by many thousands of pounds of pressure because of the pressure difference between inside and outside.

- Fourth, if, for some reason, the cabin was not pressurized and you could open a door, the doors swing open to the front of the plane. That means that you would have to push the door into a several hundred mile per hour wind in order to open it - not likely to happen.

- Fifth, if, by some miracle the door was opened, then you would have a pretty high chance of hitting one of the control surfaces - wing or tail - when you jumped. That would either kill you immediately, or make it impossible for you to pull the ripcord.

- Sixth.... Well, do I really need to list any more reasons....

It is simply not feasible to jump from a commercial airliner with a parachute under emergency conditions.
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 08 Mar 14 14:22
Rather strange though as it's not a big stretch of sea it's gone missing in Confused
By:
Blades
When: 08 Mar 14 14:36
Why are the media criticising the airline for their delay in reporting this?  FFS, they don't know what happened to the flight!  Now everyone in the media is guessing as to what happened....complete bull
By:
elise
When: 08 Mar 14 14:44
indeed, everyone guessing but whatever the cause they won't be finding survivors sadly, poor sods
By:
The Leopard
When: 08 Mar 14 14:48
^^^ Answer found on Yahoo
By:
The Leopard
When: 08 Mar 14 14:49
...that I posted
By:
call me a taxi
When: 08 Mar 14 14:53
No wreckage = alien abduction.
By:
brendanuk1
When: 08 Mar 14 15:11
Bermuda triangle
By:
guinness2dear
When: 08 Mar 14 15:21
China Syndrome.

Congrats to our board, btw Brendan,
By:
xmoneyx
When: 08 Mar 14 15:27
its smells NAM all over

ground to air missile
By:
brendanuk1
When: 08 Mar 14 15:49
yes cracking day. Plain
By:
DonNo1
When: 08 Mar 14 15:55
Suggestion that two stolen passport were used
By:
everythings gone green
When: 08 Mar 14 15:59
That's about average isn't it?
By:
DonNo1
When: 08 Mar 14 16:02
Is it? Not implying anything btw
By:
kincsem
When: 08 Mar 14 16:14
- Sixth.... Well, do I really need to list any more reasons....

The outside temperature is -40 degrees centigrade.
By:
call me a taxi
When: 08 Mar 14 16:43
Vietnamese air force jets have spotted two large oil slicks.
By:
Hamsterdam
When: 08 Mar 14 18:01
I would imagine they do know where the plane is but until all the relatives have been contacted it's a bit insensitive to break it to the world that the plane is smashed up in the sea. Even though it's quite obvious.
By:
SoYouThink
When: 08 Mar 14 19:04
Would the fact that these oil slicks are being reported as being six and nine miles long mean the plane broke up well above the surface?

Surely if it hit the sea in a single piece the oil would not be spread out over these large distances.

Add to that there are reports of two people travelling on board on stolen passports. Third the plane disappeared off radar with no prior warning from pilots. I think I'm close to making my mind up on this one.
By:
Hamsterdam
When: 08 Mar 14 19:17
Wouldn't the oil have been burnt in an explosion? On board terrorists bringing the plane down without a panic call would seen unlikely.
By:
mad mad moon
When: 08 Mar 14 19:25
I was once on a flight where someone was wearing a parachute.(American, about 25)
I can remember thinking at the time "what a knobhead".
Mr Leopard has confirmed that my thoughts were correct.
And even if everything Leopard has said could be overcome, he also has to put up with 250 people
trying to wrestle it off him.
By:
elise
When: 08 Mar 14 19:30
they are talking about jet fuel not oil as such, if someone blew the tail off with a bomb not impossible for wing and belly tanks to survive and then break up in the fall and the fuel not to burn, has additives to prevent explosion as well
By:
Just Checking
When: 08 Mar 14 19:38
Some smaller planes would probably be suitable for using a parachute if you sat near the back but how would the exit procedure work? I've never seen a "parachute on" light beside the "buckle your belt light! If you got up and ran to try and open the door mid flight, people would probably jump on you.

I can't imagine the pilot saying "for those with parachutes, you may now use them"
(Though perhaps ryanair might try and sell you one..)

I suppose if it broke up and you were thrown clear as sometimes happens and didn't lose conciousness THEN you might be ok.
Some on first space shuttle disaster may have been conscious as the cockpit descended but had no parachutes (The first space shuttle actually had ejector seats for a time).
By:
sideshowbob
When: 08 Mar 14 19:41
have they looked behind the fridge?
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