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seeing pics now of those on board
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very strange no debris so entire plane must have gone down intact, and the terrorist theory with a couple travelling on false passports they could have been just criminals using fake ID, and none of the crew made an emergency call, really strange and could take a long time to find out what actually happened if they ever find out at all.
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air disasters--national geographic
it's amazing what info experts can work on,once aircraft parts are found |
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have they found the plane then ?
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No plane yet, they do know that the two that were travelling on stolen passports were booked on the same connecting flight.
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ahh i see cheers egg
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really the only positive thing they have at the moment is what this expert said, "the lack of an emergency call suggests something very sudden and very violent happened."
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do wonder whether they are looking in the right place for this plane especially if hijacked, if they got below radar they could be thousands of miles from the last position
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".....especially if hijacked"
IF it was a hijacking and a terrorist act what did they do force the plane into the ocean ? Sure to be a lot of theories now but so far whatever it was must have been very sudden and not a bomb because no wreckage. |
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Italian guy had his passport stolen 2 days before that flight,so he couldn't board it
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may have done hound dog, may have just gone wrong and they blew themselves up, might just be a pilot gone nuts, wouldn't be the first, until they find some bits of it they won't know but i am not going to be surprised if it isn't where they think it should be
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If someone was using the Italian guys passport, does that mean this person has to be a European?
So we have two Europeans(white men) boarding this flight from KL to Beijing with fake passports? Maybe they are just criminals and have nothing to with the flight disappearing? |
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Also remember with the Air France flight in 2009, there were no emergency calls, even though the pilots spent 5 minutes stuggling with the plane.
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passports might be a complete coincidence, could just be a couple of people trying to get into china for some other reason and nothing to do with the downing of the plane
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first proper reports of wreckage starting to be reported
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Yes but stolen of passports of white European men can only be realistically used by white European men?
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true,another mystery
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where's that report Elise?
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I would imagine the stolen passports are just a coincidence, people have been getting on planes for years using stolen passports and this crash just highlights that, as most on board were not Western and was no where near a western country you would imagine it's not a terrorist act. Plenty of nutjobs who have been radicalised have passports and could have got on using their own.
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No sign of any group claiming responsibility yet, is there.
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it's been reported in several places xmoney, in one it says viet planes have photographed what my be part of the tail
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Door been found ex Irish news
Could be aliens |
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Stolen passport holders were flying to Europe on connecting flight from Beijing. Could be a coincidence though it certainly highlights a gap in security if flyers are able to board planes with passports they don't own.
Hound-Dog - not sure how the lack of wreckage rules out a bomb. It looks like something happened very suddenly while plane was cruising. Be that an issue with the plane itself or an explosion who knows. |
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What a truly bizarre story this is.
Officials suspect the plane 'disintegrated' mid-flight! Wtf. 2, or more, stolen passports used. Potentially others traveled with forged documents. 5 people checked in baggage yet didn't board. |
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Have PaddyP*wer opened up a market on the cause yet?
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5 people checked in baggage yet didn't board.
I assume those bags were removed before take off? |
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It has been reported that yes their bags were taken off the flight prior to departure
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Jonathan Creek has the answer.
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Oil slick ruled out as unrelated by chemical testing
Debris not from plane North Koreans have developed a cloaking device and flew plane to Pyongyang |
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"..... not sure how the lack of wreckage rules out a bomb"
surely they would have found some debris by now if it was a bomb, so possibly went down intact (?) But if it plunged down into the ocean intact would it have broke up when it hit the water, or would the whole plane have just gone straight to the bottom without breaking up ? Even if it had disintegrated in mid-air surely there would be some wreckage floating around. Last night investigators said they believed the plane had started to turn back. So possible terror links and maybe a hijacking that went disastrously wrong. |
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It's not even an ocean where the plane was over when it lost contact which makes it even more puzzling
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the more obvious answer is either that they have missed it or are looking in the wrong place
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Perhaps the Bermuda Triangle has shifted due to global warming?
Well everything else seems to be blamed on it! |
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would be bits of debris scattered over a wide area even if the plane hit the ocean intact. would break up on impact. certainly wouldn't got straight to the bottom
gotta be most likely they've been looking in the wrong place |
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It certainly is a 'fortunate' time for any shipwrecked survivors, currently floating in the South China sea
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^ possibility looking in the wrong place so far such a wide area to cover looking for debris, or for the plane to go down in one piece could it have landed on the water first (?) very strange indeed that there was no emergency call, but whatever did happen hope they manage to find out somehow and it doesn't remain a mystery. Amazing with all the technology now a whole plane and 239 passengers can just vanish like that.
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If it exploded in mid air at 30,000 ft there would be debris over a wide area that would have been reported by now. If it plunged into the sea intact from the co ordinates when it lost contact there would have been steadily widening area of debris which should have been spotted by now. Only in the first case would you expect that the pilot wouldn't have had time to send a mayday or report some difficulty. In the second case he may have been prevented from making any contact.
If reports that the plane turned back or off its course without reporting the fact, it would still have shown up on radar which wasn't reported in the media. |
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wouldn't be on radar if they got low enough, if hijacked they could have taken it down and headed off in pretty much any direction they liked, 6 hours fuel maybe, could be 3000 miles plus from where they think it is
that said the search seems to be a pigs ear from all of the various releases by different countries, they could have just missed it, seems odd that there is no communication at the time, if it were a bomb they'd have been seeing bits of that aircraft over a 200 mile area |
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They could have turned the transponders off if it were hijackers but crashing into sea with no warning or threat or any group claiming responsibility makes it unlikely, what is likely is it's a mechanical fault and debris and bodies will eventually be found at sea, only consolation is it was 01:30 local time when radio contact was lost, chances are a lot of passengers may have been asleep and known nothing, like the Rio-Paris flight. Not sure what the sea bed area is like in that region but in the mid Atlantic it took them so long to find the black box and some passengers because they had to look though a 46 mile underwater mountain range.
Or The pilot may have taken detour himself and landed on a remote unpopulated island due to mechanical fault and have no signal to contact anywhere or anyone. Or it's possible the plane has made an emergency crash landing at see, most likely with the plane breaking up, few survivors but still at there clinging to debris. Try imagining that for a minute, chilling. |