Alias, it's not hatred, it's more anger tbh. We have our own parliament. That's good enough for me. Independence would be a step into the unknown and I don't like the too many 'what ifs'

As for his second in command, I have far more respect for her albeit she is in the same camp. I was particularly impressed with her handling of that case where the policewoman was wrongly accused of having sex at a murder scene. Christ, did she fight for that woman, even bringing in a fingerprint expert from the US to prove her innocence.

If the vote does swing to the yes camp I could reluctantly accept her as our leader....just.

If the vote does swing to the yes camp I could reluctantly accept her as our leader....just.


That's the whole point! As noted earlier, the referendum is not about Salmond or the SNP, and too many people think it is. In fact, the SNP should be thanked at least for giving us the chance to choose, since neither the English or Scots had that chance in 1707 when there was no universal suffrage.

Don't forget that there is a Holyrood (and it IS pronounced "hollyrude") election next year, and you can vote in the govt you want, independence or not. You might even have the scenario of a YES vote this year and a Scottish Labour administration negotiating terms next year. Think about it! The great thing for me and most Scots however, is that there will be NO tories ruling us, Westminster or Holyrood.

ed milliband praise of thatcher didn't help

remember Kirsty Wark having a meltdown interviewing Alec



Aye, should have been Jackie Bird.

YES! I would still want independence, because the Labour party has moved so much to the right over the last 20 odd years. Tony Blair, labour leader who attended Fettes College, likely the most expensive, most exclusive private school in Scotland. Labour my arse. At least there are small signs that the Scottish labour party may be moving closer to it's roots. I gave up voting Labour after the '92 election when they couldn't even unseat a Major govt which was mired in sleaze. I knew then that to have a proper left govt, we had to be independent.

What ifs? What if I fall under a bus tomorrow? What if I don't?

I don't know anything about her, except the wee bits on the TV news. As I understand it, she is in effect the Co. which will own HMFC until the fans takeover is complete. Maybe you know more than me.

Nonsense. The comeback is on!

In that case, (depending on which newspaper you read) 2.5 million is peanuts. If I was a Hearts fan, I would be very concerned that she wants to bring back Craig Levein and former coach Peter Houston. Two poultices imo.

How can there be definite answers to everything? Even if there could be, in my mind there shouldn't be, as an independent country will belong to everyone, not just those that voted yes. Independence is not the end, it is the means to an end and will be whatever we make it collectively.

I can see the point of view that people need more information but I side with providing stats like I mentioned earlier, or in terms of defence, spending by other countries, rather than "you will get Eastenders" "we will use the pound" or "you won't need a passport on a train to London".

It is the sheer dishonesty of those yes voters that is so galling,
they want independence and still want to keep the pound and have the
right to live and work in England

They do not have the automatic right to live and work in England, this should apply
to Scots after independence. The pound will stay under Bank of England control.

It is the sheer dishonesty of those yes voters that is so galling,
they want independence and still want to keep the pound and have the
right to live and work in England


Spot on lfc1971. Having said that, I think that there are 30K plus English folk living in Scotland. Obviously the majority will hopefully be of voting age, Bound to vote no imho.

Leave the English living in Scotland alone, they are very sensible and quite happy

how do u work that out?

Scotland even if offered membership of the EU(not certain) would have to hold its own
referendum on membership, again outcome uncertain

do u think Cameron will give you vote 2017

No, would get the inevitable result. Its immaterial but for what its worth Britain
is a complete shambles and Scotland may well be best to cut away.

Wages in England have been falling in real terms for the last 30 years, people
are just above water(literally) not sure UKIP has the answers

lfc1971 15 Feb 14 14:00 Joined: 06 Nov 11 | Topic/replies: 2,970 | Blogger: lfc1971's blog
I am not saying that the Scots should not vote yes, but they should not cloud the issue
and expect an escape route to England if things go wrong. They must make a mature decision
based on real independence.

Who is clouding what issue? Escape route? Christ, what a pompous attitude. The £ belongs to Scotland as much as anyone.

They do not have the automatic right to live and work in England, this should apply
to Scots after independence. The pound will stay under Bank of England control.

YES they do, as European and, at present, UK citizens. Even if you take away that angle, I'd remind you that citizens of the Irish Republic have been able to live, work and VOTE freely in Britain ever since the Republic was formed. Maybe you need to go away and worry about what you obviously missed for about a couple of generations.

lfc is a yank with limited knowledge of uk / irish history and culture