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By:
xmoneyx
When: 16 Nov 13 13:20
breadnbutter
     16 Nov 13 12:41   
reporters arrived before the police Cry
By:
bix
When: 29 Nov 13 08:09
Gerry and Kate on Crimewatch last night.
By:
Donnie Brasco
When: 06 Jan 14 09:12
Final statements are due to be heard tomorrow.
By:
bix
When: 06 Jan 14 09:46
£10 million reckoned to be spent by Met. so far on the enquiry.
Is this a normal amount each time for when a child goes missing?
By:
Ken Masters
When: 06 Jan 14 09:48
And why the Met, why not Scouse plod (Bizzies?)?
By:
The Leopard
When: 06 Jan 14 10:00
The extra train fare ?
By:
bix
When: 06 Jan 14 15:37
Scotland Yard actually.
By:
tobermory
When: 03 Feb 14 23:41
Gypsies in the frame now Crazy


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2550836/Maddie-McCann-detectives-probe-Portuguese-gypsy-site-15-minutes-hotel-three-year-old-snatched-2007.html
By:
naydam
When: 03 Feb 14 23:51
You can't blame them for considering the possibility. This must be a terrible case to work on. A lot of time has passed since the evidence was fresh. THAT was the time to conduct a proper investigation. That was the time to solve the case. It can only become more and more difficult with the passage of time. SadSad
By:
A_T
When: 04 Feb 14 08:05
Pity then that the McCanns and friends didn't cooperate properly from the start
By:
naydam
When: 04 Feb 14 09:17
I don't know if they cooperated properly or not. I was under the impression that the detective had decided that the parents did 'it' and set about trying to find evidence to support this. It must be quite a scary thought to think that whatever you say will twisted to indicate your guilt, rather than concentrating on finding the missing child. I can see how mistrust would easily develop, from both parties.
I have no doubt that the British police will have included the parents in their investigations. With what result, remains unknown.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 08 Feb 14 00:54
len port---journalist Portugal

The recent flurry of fictitious reports about the Madeleine McCann case is another example of how far quality journalism has been replaced by the latest form of ‘churnalism.’

A story is concocted by a reporter and published on the website of a major newspaper or TV network. Within hours, it has been copied, rewritten or translated without anyone bothering to check for accuracy. If it is sensational enough, the story is then regurgitated around the world.

The media have long been able to share important information from established news agencies and other reliable sources. The rot set in with the upsurge some years ago of propaganda and slanted press releases put out by PR people. The Internet has dramatically speeded and simplified shoddy, second-hand reporting.

Churnalism has now reached unprecedented levels with media organisations shamelessly copying one another online. As a result, a profusion of misinformation is spewed out daily.

Last week’s excitement over the Madeleine McCann case was based on the fact that four Scotland Yard detectives flew to the Algarve to meet with Polícia Judiciária counterparts. The visit followed a letter of request sent by the British Crown Prosecution Service to the Portuguese equivalent.

Officials in both countries refused to comment on the contents of the letter or the reason for the visit. This did not stop the British tabloids from improvising. They spoke of “a dramatic breakthrough” and claimed that the arrest of three burglars was “imminent.”

Kate and Gerry McCann were said to be “on tenderhooks” and being "kept fully informed" about the latest developments.



These “exclusive” assertions in the Daily Mirror were picked up and used not only by competing tabloids, but by ‘quality’ papers such as the Guardian and the Daily Telegraph.

Portuguese papers did not jump on the bandwagon, but the revelation of a ‘breakthrough’ spun around the world and found its way into the Sydney Morning Herald, the Times of India, the Huffington Post and the Daily Beast to name but a few online services.

The Epoch Times, which prides itself on being published in 21 languages in 35 countries across five continents, was running the same “imminent arrest” yarn on the same day ITV mercifully set the record straight with the headline: “No imminent plans to make any arrests in Madeleine McCann case.”

ITV described the meeting between British and Portuguese detectives as “a routine part of the investigation to establish what happened to Madeleine McCann.”

USA Today quoted the British investigative reporter and former detective Mark Williams-Thomas as saying, “this isn’t a major breakthrough” and “burglars don’t abduct children.”

By then the media damage had been done. As the Sunday Mirror columnist Carole Malone put it: “How devastating this must all be for Kate and Gerry McCann – another flurry of headlines, more promises of suspects and arrests... and then nothing. Again!”

The copy and paste style of churnalism practised nowadays is akin to plagiarism, but who cares? For example, a retired British police superintendent with a keen interest in the McCann case spotted that several paragraphs in a Daily Mirror story on 28 December had been copied almost word-for-word, without quoting or crediting the source, from a story that had appeared in the Daily Mail on 15 October. He brought this to the attention of both papers and the Press Complaints Commission. They expressed little interest.

Journalistic analysts put the growth in churnalism down to a combination of things, including increased competition, reduced revenues and inadequate staff with insufficient time to verify and properly develop stories.

It is likely to get ever more frantic. We have already moved on from last week’s “imminent arrests” to this week’s tabloid revelation that “detectives are probing a Portuguese gypsy site just 15 minutes away from where Madeleine was snatched.”

Well, maybe, but for starters the place the foreign media are talking about is not a gypsy site at all. 

One thing is certain though: the media will continue to churn out this sort of rubbish as long as there are people who want to read it.
By:
Clungehungry
When: 08 Feb 14 01:04
There's not that much I'd disagree with there, but I wouldn't put anyone who says 'tenderhooks' on a pedal stool.
By:
tobermory
When: 08 Feb 14 01:17
I don't know if they cooperated properly or not. I was under the impression that the detective had decided that the parents did 'it' and set about trying to find evidence to support this.

No, the Portuguese investigation didn't consider them suspects for months .

Also very likely the stuff about The McAnns being “on tenderhooks” and being "kept fully informed" , likely comes from their own PR people rather than the police.
By:
Clungehungry
When: 08 Feb 14 01:20
TENTERHOOKS!!!
By:
tobermory
When: 08 Feb 14 01:33
yes yes , i'm just pasting the dailymail text or whatever it was from
By:
bigH
When: 08 Feb 14 03:44
will this case ever be solved?
By:
A_T
When: 08 Feb 14 08:35
very likely the stuff about The McAnns being “on tenderhooks” and being "kept fully informed" , likely comes from their own PR people rather than the police.

1.01 Clarence Mitchell
By:
mesmerised
When: 08 Feb 14 10:22
Biggest mystery of the last few decades surely given the amount of attention, publicity, resources and search hours put in to it the last 7 years. Yet nobody has slipped up at all. No trace whatsoever.

Three months after she disappeared in August time, I was in the Algarve staying in a resort in between Alvor and Portimao, just a few miles along the coast from Luz. In Alvor in town, there were still pictures and posters of her plastered everywhere, almost every shop, sports bar and cafe you went into to in every side street but on a day trip to Portimao I didn't see one single picture which I thought was strange, almost like nobody there wanted to be associated with it even though there just a couple of miles apart, I vaguely remember them being jeered on TV there at the station, OR maybe the police there didn't want reminding that they had failed to find her and fcuked up the investigation form Day 1. I walked right past that station they were always in and out of "Policia Judiciaria" which was a bit strange, and a few doors down on the wall next to a phone shop on the wall someone had written mccanns gulity, not guilty, gulity, must have been a local trying to write English. About half hour later we went to this kind of Roma gypsy market on the outskirts, had to walk over a derelict railway line onto a disused platform and along a long muddy path, one thing always stuck on my mind, every single stall we stopped out to look at what they were selling, I always noticed the Roma's behind the stall not taking their eyes of any kids that happened to be there including my sister, even when they moved along there eyes followed them, could't help but think that being so close by to Luz one of these gypsy groups might have taken her. Gypsies are a complete law unto themselves.
By:
twonky
When: 08 Feb 14 10:31
But there is no evidence that says the McCanns apartment was broken into.
By:
A_T
When: 08 Feb 14 12:33
McCanns claim they left both doors unlocked - but bizarrely they also claim the window was broken into.
By:
A_T
When: 08 Feb 14 12:36
I always noticed the Roma's behind the stall not taking their eyes of any kids that happened to be there including my sister, even when they moved along there eyes followed them

they were probably worried about their goods getting nicked
By:
Clungehungry
When: 08 Feb 14 12:42
You...can't really break into a window.
By:
mesmerised
When: 08 Feb 14 12:51
A_T they were gipsies selling tat, cheap stuff unpacked from flimsy boxes like disney socks, primark like t-shirts etc, they could hardly give it away let alone have it nicked.
By:
A_T
When: 08 Feb 14 13:02
looks like you've solved it then based on your experience it was obviously gypsies
By:
brendanuk1
When: 08 Feb 14 13:14
yes mesmerised solved it just by looking at a gypsies eye, nice work folks, case closed
By:
mesmerised
When: 08 Feb 14 13:18
I do have my Colombo moments.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 08 Feb 14 13:24
to be fair UK cops mentioned gypsies 1stExcitedCry
By:
mesmerised
When: 08 Feb 14 14:10
This thread so it appears, is all about speculation and as far as I can see I made no accusations, just observations and insinuations, like the rest, nobody has a clue including you, so no need for sarcasm ATWink
By:
ebulGery
When: 09 Feb 14 01:17
Gypsies were near by, so they must have done it..
Well I can see the logic here, nobody likes Gypsies so lets just blame them
ffsCry

In the Sunday Express today there is a claim(I have no idea of truth of this)
the McCann's keys were lost shortly before she vanished.

Well if the McCann's lost them then surely they should have told the Portuguese police..
I don't know..it may have been the hotel....but this is significant evidence, id true

It is all right blaming the Portuguese police, but then if the McCann's were not totally honest with them
it is hardly their fault is it???????????
By:
ebulGery
When: 09 Feb 14 02:20
Personally I don't think our police have a clue

we have had known paedophiles did it

we have had burglars did it

now Gipsies
By:
Clungehungry
When: 09 Feb 14 03:04
And in English?
By:
xmoneyx
When: 09 Feb 14 06:16
Blimey! all right gov
By:
A_T
When: 09 Feb 14 11:35
In the Sunday Express today there is a claim(I have no idea of truth of this)
the McCann's keys were lost shortly before she vanished.


Irrelevant as the McCanns say they left both doors to the apartment unlocked.
By:
ebulGery
When: 09 Feb 14 12:16
Sad
oh well
By:
xmoneyx
When: 09 Feb 14 12:46
only now keys come to lightWink?
By:
1st time poster
When: 09 Feb 14 12:50
if the swinger storys have any truth in them their keys would have been passed amongst the group,Wink
By:
xmoneyx
When: 09 Feb 14 12:51
why has that never been exposed
By:
1st time poster
When: 09 Feb 14 12:54
are you winding us up

professional couple leave 3 kids alone in an apartment the day after their keys go missing, LaughLaughLaugh
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 09 Feb 14 12:55
were they swingers then? Laugh
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