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is it time for britain to ban religon??
is it time for britain to ban religon??
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In the Future of an Illusion, Freud said that religion will be around as long as we are afraid of death.
So it'll be a good while before it's gone. |
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Believers are not afraid of death. If they are wrong and death is FINAL they won`t know about it, but if they are right, all you atheists are DOOMED
 Believers have the best part of the argument |
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oh bugger :(
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And point Freud was making that you missed mightymac is that you only believe in the afterlife because you are afraid of death.
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Freud is talking sh*t, imo
I`m not afraid of death. |
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That was the pope speaking in Rome on Wednesday this week.
I suspect he has irritated some of his followers |
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Don`t think so. Most of his followers pray for atheists.
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don`t know what you`re talking about bobtoe. I admitted no such thing. Faith is a personal thing. If people believe, whatever religion, that`s fine with me. If people choose not to believe, that is also fine by me. Intolerance, is what I can`t stand.
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are you intolerant towards intolerance?
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Freud is talking sh*t, imo
I`m not afraid of death. I hope you are not planning on blowing yourself up mac  everybody is afraid of death..in my opinion it is evolved in us....our brains cannot cope with it we cant plan ahead.. although actually it is dying that is the problem once we are dead, nothing matters, as we don't exist |
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the best death I thought was Michael Caine in Get Carter
...he had just killed the last of the bad guys and gets a bullet through the middle of his skull would not even have known about it and went out on a high |
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I`m afraid you`re wrong gery. I know 4 people who have had died and all experienced life after death. That`s a fact mate.
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I doubt whether a suicide bomber knows much about it either
but he knows what is going to happen.. so he will inevitably feel some fear |
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 apologies mac you are in touch with them  on the other side I mean |
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Gery, I was even more cynical than some of the "loonies" on here until I saw for myself
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then I wont contradict you mac
you died and came back, I assume.. I am a little confused over that.. some would claim that was dream...I will look that up But that puts you in a different position than the rest of us anyway one life is bad enough do we really want another one???? |
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If you did Cardiff , Hull and Palace would have to stay where they are.
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I would not mind going back in my life and having another go
its a real bummer, remembering our mistakes but being totally powerless to do anything about them makes life seem pointless to me If I could only go back to before todays racing that would be a start now I have seen the results |
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Mac. Perhaps you can help to answer a question that has troubled me for years...Is the grass REALLY greener over there?
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mac - what's the weather like?
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No, you misunderstand, I`ve never died.
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I thought you'd seen for yourself. You wouldn't need to die to just get a quick glimpse!
 What did it look like? |
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I`m afraid you`re wrong gery. I know 4 people who have had died and all experienced life after death. That`s a fact mate.
yeah its a fact. |
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I thought that, when we are close to death, we can reach the Pearly Gates without actually going through. The clue is in the name. It's not called 'The Pearly High Wall' is it?
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I am getting lost
am I conversing with ghosts here |
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As poster's have said Freud's explanation is still the simplest and most obvious
It is to cope with out fear of death. Our brains are always thinking in advance, we cannot help it We have to construct our language in advance. So death is a big problem to us, we cannot work out what is going to happen, We fear losing our friends, everything ..we feel we are plunging into a deathly black isolation of nothing with absolutely no control. I also think that even in life we feel the need to reach outside of reality, we like to think there is some divine justice or someone is looking our for us, or perhaps, surely there has to be something better than this. I do not think we should ban religion, but it may be an idea , that at all schools, including faith schools, there are compulsory lessons, neither for or against religion, but to make children see there are different ways of looking at religion. Is it real, is it a psychological need, etc.. just so they can think for themselves that is all. |
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with all our cognitive processes intact.
I think some posters have already lost that ability on here, let alone dying Bobtoe |
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**** me this bollocks still going
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If someone gets comfort out of religion, is that a bad thing?
To ban religion because you don`t believe or understand is a very dangerous concept and a stupid suggestion. What next? Whether you believe or not, the fabric of our society is based on the 10 Commandments. Without these laws we would have Anarchy. |
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I`m telling you BB - they are worse than religious zealots
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**** ****s the lot of you
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"polybot - I'm sorry. I make this mistake every time on chit-chat. I make the assumption that I'm talking to adults who don't feel a desperate psychological urge to score points by quoting out of context.
My mistake. Carry on. No wonder the forum is slowly dying on its @rse." No problem Pan, apologies and excuses accepted. Try a moderated atheist website which has any dissenting heretics removed so that the believers can recite their simple dogma free from any argument. |
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It is to cope with out fear of death. Our brains are always thinking in advance, we cannot help it … We fear losing our friends, everything ..we feel we are plunging into a deathly black isolation of nothing with absolutely
no control … I also think that even in life we feel the need to reach outside of reality, we like to think there is some divine justice or someone is looking our for us, or perhaps, surely there has to be something better than this. These three things – our brains always thinking, the need to reach outside of ‘reality’ and the hope for divine intervention on our behalf – are at the heart of Buddhism. There are many interpretations of Buddhism but ideas commonly held are that we do not look to outside agencies to solve our problems. We can very much do something about our brains always thinking and peace and happiness can only be found in the present moment. Mindfullness allows you to be aware of your self without judgement, want or fear. It shows you that the intellect is just a part of you but a lesser part and the ego can be subdued. Mindfullness practise has some very definite benefits in that it is being used in the West in ‘proper’ medicine more and more to treat physical and mental disorders. And at Harvard in 2011 it was discovered for the first time that such practise changes DNA in a positive way. I wouldn’t ban a religion and its offshoots and interpretations that on the whole has been about attaining contentment (which surely we all want), dealing with the here and now and for the most part has been a peaceful, beneficial to physical/mental wellbeing, non-exclusive and orange affair. |
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