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By:
paradox and equilibrium
When: 01 Oct 12 22:19
The most basic gcse level comprehension of physics and material science should suffice here. It's just incredible the gullibilty of you muppets
By:
blackburn1
When: 01 Oct 12 22:24
I've already told you gabrial this is my research, you and p&d are being very helpful.

What about the plane that hit the Pentagon and the one that crashed, was that pure coincidence or were a "few" more in on it?

I'm beginning to think the same bloke planted the bombs and hijacked the planes
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 01 Oct 12 22:24
Paradox

Have you noticed the people who try to knock you for question the official line actually don`t know anything about the timeline or the 9/11 Commission?

Surprised if they all know about WTC7.
By:
paradox and equilibrium
When: 01 Oct 12 22:26
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B1OnhSucP8

A high rise steel and concrete building (like building 7) burning, well, rather more severle to put it mildly, than building 7,ALL NIGHT, till it burns itself out.

Steel didn't melt, building didn't fall. But hey, they the buidling where the CIA, FBI, securities and exchange commission, Mayors emergency management HQ decided to locate in New York, was probably a lot weaker than a Chinese Hotel building.

LaughLaughLaugh
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 01 Oct 12 22:31
I'm beginning to think the same bloke planted the bombs and hijacked the planesMischief

Confused me there mate.

Pentagon has no film of a passenger aircraft crashing into it. If you can find one let me see it. The film available shows some missile/plane but no passenger jet.

If it was a military plane/missile then how many would need to know? Was it a bomb ?
By:
blackburn1
When: 01 Oct 12 22:32
I'm getting dispirited gabrial, I've politely asked you several questions but as I predicted you've answered none of them.

Instead you're muttering away like a drunk at the checkout who knows he doesn't have enough money on him.

Good night to you both, make sure you lock the doors.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 01 Oct 12 22:36
You sure play a mean pinball Blacky

Goodnight oldtimer
By:
Ampleforth
When: 01 Oct 12 22:48
ok, we are making progress

so far we have
80 planting explosive (and presumably laying new internet cabling at the same time to cover themselves)
George Bush
the CIA, FBI, securities and exchange commission, Mayors emergency management working in WT7
The military personnel involved in flying a missile into the pentagon


anybody want to hazard a guess at the number of people in on it so far?
By:
paradox and equilibrium
When: 01 Oct 12 22:57
You appear to have come to the figure of 80, no one else, so a pointless exercise i'm afraid.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 01 Oct 12 22:57
20 in totalLaugh

2 to plant the nano thermite in the towers with the security of Mervin Bush.
2 CIA agents
2 Military personnel to arrange Pentagon
13 members of the administration.
By:
paradox and equilibrium
When: 01 Oct 12 23:00
And the implication of the cia fbi securities and exchange commission and mayors emergency manage,ment office deciding to locate in wtc 7, is that it was a more than averagely secure and stable building, not that that thwy were involved in the conspiracy. So you are either totally thick, or deliberately pretending to mis-understand.
By:
Ampleforth
When: 01 Oct 12 23:02
possibly I am, I don't pretend to be any sort of expert, I just wish you would put some sort of rough figure of how many people you actually think actually knew what was going to happen before it happened.
By:
paradox and equilibrium
When: 01 Oct 12 23:03
I'm guessing totally thick tbh. Plain
By:
paradox and equilibrium
When: 01 Oct 12 23:04
My opinion is that no more than 50 needed to be in full command of the facts, and probably less than that.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 01 Oct 12 23:04
They refuse to listen Paradox.

Too eager to score points, without actually reading anything thoroughly.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 01 Oct 12 23:06
Possibly even G,Bush jnr was told that something was going down. It was a military operation and would be informed when it went live.
By:
Ampleforth
When: 01 Oct 12 23:08
ok, so you are saying that maybe 50 people or less knew all the facts, does this include the military personnel who flew a missile/remote controlled plane into the pentagon?
By:
paradox and equilibrium
When: 01 Oct 12 23:11
If you are a cop that is told to secure a doorway and not let anyone in or out, you don't have to know that it's because the area chief has discovered his girlfriend is seeing someone else and he wants to stop her leaving, or her new boyfriend getting in, do you? You might think their is a national security situation going down, and kill or die before failing in your duties.

This can work in reverse.
By:
paradox and equilibrium
When: 01 Oct 12 23:14
You need to understand the levels of "military exercises" that were taking place on 9/11, when you comprehend this, you can begin to grasp how easy it was to confuse defences and facilitate objectives.
By:
Ampleforth
When: 01 Oct 12 23:17
I agree, but launching a missile?  I am not sure you could do that without a number of people knowing about it, and even if they were not told what it it was about at the time of launching, I am sure they could soon put two an two together.... surely piling a plane into the building and having it recorded on film doing so would have made the 'cover' more believable..... why use a missile? in fact why attack the pentagon at all? wasn't the twin towers enough?
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 01 Oct 12 23:26
On September 10, 2001,  Donald Rumsfeld admitted that the Pentagon had lost, by the estimate he chose to use for his speech, 2.3 trillion dollars.
By:
Ampleforth
When: 01 Oct 12 23:28
well I presume he had a sh!t as well on September 10th..... your point is?
By:
paradox and equilibrium
When: 01 Oct 12 23:29
Yep, and magically all records were lost in the destruction of that specific part of the pentagon where naval acoounting records were kept, just like a large number of massive corperate fraud investigation records were destroyed in buidling 7s destruction.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 01 Oct 12 23:40
Ampleforth

Guess were Rumsfeld was on the day of the Pentagon attack?

Yep on the opposite side. I wonder why the terrorists decided to crash the plane into the newly refurbished wing where they would not hit maximum impact, but guarantee to destroy the financial records/audits which could trace the wonga.
By:
tobermory
When: 01 Oct 12 23:42
I certainly don't think Bush was involved if there was a conspiracy

Imagine trying to explain all that to him
By:
paradox and equilibrium
When: 01 Oct 12 23:45
Indeed.

http://vimeo.com/44583147
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 01 Oct 12 23:45
Very, very funny, Tober!
By:
Ampleforth
When: 01 Oct 12 23:53
ok, I think you are suggesting that 'they' needed to destroy the records in a particular part of the pentagon to cover up a paper trail of some sort that would expose the spending/stealing of 2.3 trillion dollars? and therefore a cruise missile was used for a more precise hit, and you are suggesting that the most sophisticated building/agency in the world has no back ups of any of this data?
Who do you think would benefit from this? the inner circle of 50 people? surely it was not divided up by the 'inner 50'? not the sort of money you can hide easily.
Where do you think this 2.3 trillion dollars went? 
And presumably a fair few people are involved in the launching and witnessing of a Cruise missile, I don't think it is like in the movies where the boss just presses a big red button under the desk....
By:
DonNo1
When: 02 Oct 12 00:04
Pentagon has no film of a passenger aircraft crashing into it. If you can find one let me see it. The film available shows some missile/plane but no passenger jet.

Missile?  We'll have to add a few more in the know here lads, how many people would it take to build a missile incorporating a 757 landing gear into it?
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 02 Oct 12 00:10
Did it have landing gear Don?

Do we have evidence?
By:
Ampleforth
When: 02 Oct 12 00:14
hang on, I was first in the queue.. you missed me out...
By:
DonNo1
When: 02 Oct 12 00:15
http://rense.com/general32/aedrive6.jpg

Maybe they stuck something resembling a landing gear on the side of this missile along with a turbo engine and airline fuselage.  How much did the numerous people saying they saw an AA airline get paid off?
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 02 Oct 12 00:43
Sorry Amp. You need to check out the technology of the Doomsday Aircraft that the Pentagon defence had sent airborne at the time.

Don

Not sure were that photo has arrived from. Do you have any film of it crashing?
By:
DonNo1
When: 02 Oct 12 00:50
It 'arrived from' the Pentagon, or maybe they set up another crash site in a film studio and leaked the picture into the Pentagon film
By:
polybot
When: 02 Oct 12 01:11
"How much did the numerous people saying they saw an AA airline get paid off?"
According to AGs top sources there were only 20 people involved in the whole scam, so it was probably just one guy with one of those memory erase devices seen in the factual documentary "Men in Black". The missile was probably being remote piloted by Donald Rumsfeld (he was doing all the planes) on the PC in his bedroom. Him and Blair were also doing the hoax calls to relatives from the "plane", they sneaked into somewhere at night (when the cleaners were done) to get the private files which for some reason contain random phone numbers of relatives. He did loads more too, it was a really busy night, and he was tired from giving that speech where he once again mentioned the 2000 Pentagon audit report so that he could then kill some guy in some office in the pentagon, possibly because that guy had seen that audit report mentioned  numerous times on the telly that year, in order to cover it up even though rumsfeld had openly and expressly publicized it himself.  Wow, if only rumsfeld had simply ignored the report like the clinton administration he wouldn't need to organise to blow up all this stuff the next day to hide what was in my confused imagination, a  Beagle Boys type heist (or possibly the ACTUAL Beagle Boys! Where were they on 9/11???) with bigs bags with a dollar signs on them filled with loot.
This is a from my new book, if you enjoy the work of Dan Brown and would like to know more about the FACTS of 9/11, look me up on I'llbelievewhatifookingwanttobelieve.com
By:
GPT
When: 02 Oct 12 06:18
Laugh
By:
GPT
When: 02 Oct 12 06:30
P&As explanation for the buildings falling down really is some peice of fictionLaughseriously where do you get this utter rubbish from?
Get a life,get out more you are borderline mentally ill,certainly showing signs of paranoia.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 02 Oct 12 07:21
Polybot

Don`t be lazy now.

My reference point was Able Danger. Do you know what this is?

So i have said that the conspiracy as far as i am concerned could be that, the CIA after tracking Mohammed Atta across to America after pinning the sinking of the USS Cole in Yemen Oct 12, 2000 ( Any knowledge on this? thought not Poly), they allowed the 9/11 terrorist plot to gather speed, and choreographing further elements of security confusion on that day. Add in other preparations and that is how i see it happening. Possibly.

Either that or the incompetence of the CIA is unbelievable. Yet incompetence does not explain WTC7 collapsing as it did.

The Pentagon could be a `red herring` of information to deliberately cross polinate the conspiracy movement. Do the have footage of the crash? Why not show it then.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 02 Oct 12 07:22
GPT can you name another steel skyscraper which collapsed just as WTC7 did?
By:
erse2
When: 02 Oct 12 07:48
i will cut through this being ignorant of the posts above. there is no conspiracy theory. planes flying at several hundred miles per hour and weighing hundreds of tonnes are not factored into computer models of how a building can withstand such a force.

the prevailing point i get from these conspiracy theorist followers is that 'experts' are proclaiming that known physics dictates that the buildings should have withstood a strike, or should have withstood prolonged fires, or withstood buildings collapsing next to them. i would question the motives of these experts and it has obviously paid off for them to say something to garner attention.

it's an increasingly cynical world and the idea that a country would kill their own, a democracy, in a surprise attack, on their own soil is quite unbecoming imo. to think that such things are reality really mean that you put yourself in a position where can truly never trust our own safety and future in countries where we supposedly have the right to vote for our own destiny.

i think the idea that 9/11 was an inside job is completely crazy.
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